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    Cool (true) story: Me, Lyle, Martin, & James are the Axis of Broscience.

    Okay, I know the title is provocative, but let me explain. There has been some recent activity on one of my old blog posts. One of the commenters plans on becoming an MD so he can fully realize his mission to fight the broscience that folks like Myself, Lyle, Martin, & James Krieger are spreading.... AND HE'S DEAD-SERIOUS. I know this because he's a real person (someone linked his facebook in my blog).

    So, my question to you Nut Misc is -- where did I fail this young man? How can I make my writings more catchy or sexy enough to grab folks as they fall headlong into the arms of The Darkside? What do, brahs?

    Here are some choice quotes from him:

    "One axis of broscience guys in general: Alan, Lyle, Krieger and Martin."

    " In fact, I DON’T believe Alan has a practical understanding of endocrinology outside of steroids producing small balls..."

    "Anyone can get a degree in nutrition pal, I have a Masters in Physiology and it only teaches you textbook bs 30yrs old."

    "Honestly I think most of you are just pissed I probably mentioned I’m becoming an MD. you mad, bro? you mad I’m going to be making 500k/yr doing orthopedics while you’re hoaxing fat ppl in the gym for dollars and call it personal training?"



    Oh yes, a link to where the melee begins:

    http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/0.../#comment-6635

    Note: he might not post again, but I invited him to engage with me in an evidence-based discussion that might be worth watching.
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    Did you neg his retarded ass?
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    god save us if future MDs are using the phrase "you mad, bro"
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    Wait... Alan don't you have something like a Master's in nutritional science and isn't Layne working on his PhD? Broscience seems a rather silly term to classify you guys in. He could make accusations of quackery but not broscience. Oh sorry Lyle... I thought he was refering to Layne Norton.
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    Does he even lift?
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    Does he even lift?
    fuuuuu. beat me to it.
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    thats why I eventually had to find my own method of Paleo Dieting
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    You didn't fail him, of course:

    Also, as a personal q, have you ever been obese? Because I have and I know every bit how it feels and how my body responds to food, what with experimenting with countless diets/macro ratios/exercise regimens (I even became an amateur boxing champion)/counting calories. 99% of it didn’t work, i found a diet that works for me.
    He lived it, so he "knows" it. He can't get over what works for him, and apparently doesn't understand that just because he clicked his heels three times, spun in a circle, and chanted some Latin before running a calorie deficit, it was only the deficit that mattered.

    I think that there's some psychological comfort to dismissing the energy balance rule because it's both a) simple and b) easy to fail at, if you're not a little patient and able to count calories properly. Because if you fail at something so simple, it couldn't possibly be that you did it wrong - it's the theory that's borked.

    He's reasonably bright and has his mind made up in advance. And now he's personally invested in proving his claims. Taubes Jr.
    You didn't "fail" him, because you can't win.
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    LOL. Future doctor saying "you mad?" and bragging about his potential future income.

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    Originally Posted by FourToEight View Post
    Becoming a doctor for all the wrong reasons.
    like the fame/poon-tang?
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    Alan,
    I think you’re getting too mired in the small details and forgetting the big picture of nutrition/the human body. Instead of saying, oh fructose may not be SO bad, why not consider that cutting down fructose (and tons of whole grains/gluten/omega-sixes) will only do good for our obese/diabetic nation? We need people to change their lives and being overly conservative back in the direction of conventional wisdom helps no one. fit ppl stay fit, fat ppl stay fat.
    Also, as a personal q, have you ever been obese? Because I have and I know every bit how it feels and how my body responds to food, what with experimenting with countless diets/macro ratios/exercise regimens (I even became an amateur boxing champion)...............

    Maybe he has just had too many hits to the head.
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    his asian father must be disappoint.

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    Originally Posted by MITCHAPAL00ZA View Post
    god save us if future MDs are using the phrase "you mad, bro"
    I was thinking the same thing!
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    Lol at bragging about charity work, and how much you could theoretically make one day(minus malpractice insurance, rent, various other fees).
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    Originally Posted by lovingit View Post
    I was thinking the same thing!
    I'm more frightened of a future MD rejecting empirical evidence because of his own anecdotal experience and superstition.
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    Originally Posted by Nimm View Post
    I'm more frightened of a future MD rejecting empirical evidence because of his own anecdotal experience and superstition.
    You're frightened of that but now how he claims he knows everything and says he was an amateur boxer when he's at least 220 lb? Strong case of delusional self gratification.
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    I have noticed that most people who get in big long nutritional arguments with Alan have delusions of grandeur.
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    You're frightened of that but now how he claims he knows everything and says he was an amateur boxer when he's at least 220 lb? Strong case of delusional self gratification.
    Strong disrespect for the Han Brothers Backyard Boxing Federation.
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    Are you sure he wishes to become a medical doctor? Maybe by MD he meant he wished to become a massive dick, in which case



    Or maybe he wants to have a massive dick? In which case...



    OR

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    Originally Posted by trance__dreamer View Post
    his asian father must be disappoint.

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    What med school did this phaggot graduate from? Where did he do his residency?

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    He ain't graduated med school. He has plans to go to med school, but I don't know (or care about) the details. The point is that there will always be a market for quackery & unicorn-based BS because people are not willing to look facts in the face.
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    Originally Posted by alan aragon View Post
    He ain't graduated med school. He has plans to go to med school, but I don't know (or care about ) the details. The point is that there will always be a market for quackery & unicorn-bsed BS because people are not willing to look facts in the face.
    Could have just said, "there will always be paleo dieters." Would have saved a couple seconds.
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    Originally Posted by alan aragon View Post
    He ain't graduated med school. He has plans to go to med school, but I don't know (or care about) the details. The point is that there will always be a market for quackery & unicorn-based BS because people are not willing to look facts in the face.
    yup remember that MrMisanthrope guy. He obviously wasn't stupid just unwilling to change his opinion regardless of the facts you and many others provided him.
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    Originally Posted by mynameisuntz View Post
    Could have just said, "there will always be paleo dieters." Would have saved a couple seconds.
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    MD's still have to pay ~45% of their wage in overheads even before they get taxed on it... So $300k turns into $165k, turns into ~$100k. A solid salary if you're into it for the right reasons (eg. help people), but obviously he's not.

    Screw the intense 10+ years and $300k (after tax ) of study needed. Much easier and more profitable ways of making money if that's what you're after.
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