Okay, I know the title is provocative, but let me explain. There has been some recent activity on one of my old blog posts. One of the commenters plans on becoming an MD so he can fully realize his mission to fight the broscience that folks like Myself, Lyle, Martin, & James Krieger are spreading.... AND HE'S DEAD-SERIOUS. I know this because he's a real person (someone linked his ******** in my blog).
So, my question to you Nut Misc is -- where did I fail this young man? How can I make my writings more catchy or sexy enough to grab folks as they fall headlong into the arms of The Darkside? What do, brahs?
Here are some choice quotes from him:
"One axis of broscience guys in general: Alan, Lyle, Krieger and Martin."
" In fact, I DON’T believe Alan has a practical understanding of endocrinology outside of steroids producing small balls..."
"Anyone can get a degree in nutrition pal, I have a Masters in Physiology and it only teaches you textbook bs 30yrs old."
"Honestly I think most of you are just pissed I probably mentioned I’m becoming an MD. you mad, bro? you mad I’m going to be making 500k/yr doing orthopedics while you’re hoaxing fat ppl in the gym for dollars and call it personal training?"
Oh yes, a link to where the melee begins:
http://www.alanaragonblog.com/2010/0.../#comment-6635
Note: he might not post again, but I invited him to engage with me in an evidence-based discussion that might be worth watching.
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11-01-2011, 05:51 PM #1Banned
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Cool (true) story: Me, Lyle, Martin, & James are the Axis of Broscience.
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11-01-2011, 05:53 PM #2Will lift for food.
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Did you neg his retarded ass?
IIFYM - not even once.
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11-01-2011, 05:55 PM #3Banned
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If I can make 500k/yr Trolling 24/7 I need to change my occupation......
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11-01-2011, 05:58 PM #4Platinum Account
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god save us if future MDs are using the phrase "you mad, bro"
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11-01-2011, 06:00 PM #5Banned
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Wait... Alan don't you have something like a Master's in nutritional science and isn't Layne working on his PhD? Broscience seems a rather silly term to classify you guys in. He could make accusations of quackery but not broscience. Oh sorry Lyle... I thought he was refering to Layne Norton.
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11-01-2011, 06:01 PM #6Registered User
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Does he even lift?
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11-01-2011, 06:03 PM #7Registered User
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fuuuuu. beat me to it.Originally Posted by Lvisaa2
Does he even lift?
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11-01-2011, 06:04 PM #8Not actually named untz.
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God help us.thats why I eventually had to find my own method of Paleo DietingAll of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
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11-01-2011, 06:08 PM #9Actual Size Avi
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You didn't fail him, of course:
He lived it, so he "knows" it. He can't get over what works for him, and apparently doesn't understand that just because he clicked his heels three times, spun in a circle, and chanted some Latin before running a calorie deficit, it was only the deficit that mattered.Also, as a personal q, have you ever been obese? Because I have and I know every bit how it feels and how my body responds to food, what with experimenting with countless diets/macro ratios/exercise regimens (I even became an amateur boxing champion)/counting calories. 99% of it didn’t work, i found a diet that works for me.
I think that there's some psychological comfort to dismissing the energy balance rule because it's both a) simple and b) easy to fail at, if you're not a little patient and able to count calories properly. Because if you fail at something so simple, it couldn't possibly be that you did it wrong - it's the theory that's borked.
He's reasonably bright and has his mind made up in advance. And now he's personally invested in proving his claims. Taubes Jr.
You didn't "fail" him, because you can't win.Last edited by Nimm; 11-01-2011 at 06:13 PM.
Think you can, think you can't - doesn't matter. Either way, you're right.
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11-01-2011, 06:08 PM #10Registered User
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So he is aware of dat der cell-tech I see!
www.bodyrecomposition.com + www.leangains.com + www.alanaragon.com + www.emma-leigh.com = profits.
I think that the Asian twist makes it solid & tight. - Aragon.
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11-01-2011, 06:09 PM #11Not actually named untz.
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LOL. Future doctor saying "you mad?" and bragging about his potential future income.
Funny.All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
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11-01-2011, 06:11 PM #12All you need is Vegemite
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Becoming a doctor for all the wrong reasons.
Start: 18/8/2011 = 145lbs
Current: 3/11/2011 = 160.05560234631lbs
I don't even lift, I just eat loads and pray it all turns into muscle
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11-01-2011, 06:13 PM #13Erick wrecked it
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like the fame/poon-tang?Originally Posted by FourToEight
FKK - Elastic waisted jeans are fashionable too.
If you feel bench presses most in your spotter's biceps, you're doing it wrong
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11-01-2011, 06:14 PM #14Registered User
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Daniel Han PERMALINK
October 30, 2011
Alan,
I think you’re getting too mired in the small details and forgetting the big picture of nutrition/the human body. Instead of saying, oh fructose may not be SO bad, why not consider that cutting down fructose (and tons of whole grains/gluten/omega-sixes) will only do good for our obese/diabetic nation? We need people to change their lives and being overly conservative back in the direction of conventional wisdom helps no one. fit ppl stay fit, fat ppl stay fat.
Also, as a personal q, have you ever been obese? Because I have and I know every bit how it feels and how my body responds to food, what with experimenting with countless diets/macro ratios/exercise regimens (I even became an amateur boxing champion)...............
Maybe he has just had too many hits to the head.www.bodyrecomposition.com + www.leangains.com + www.alanaragon.com + www.emma-leigh.com = profits.
I think that the Asian twist makes it solid & tight. - Aragon.
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his asian father must be disappoint.
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11-01-2011, 06:16 PM #16I was thinking the same thing!Originally Posted by MITCHAPAL00ZA
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11-01-2011, 06:18 PM #17Super Spreader
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Lol at bragging about charity work, and how much you could theoretically make one day(minus malpractice insurance, rent, various other fees).
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11-01-2011, 06:19 PM #18Actual Size Avi
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I'm more frightened of a future MD rejecting empirical evidence because of his own anecdotal experience and superstition.Originally Posted by lovingit
Think you can, think you can't - doesn't matter. Either way, you're right.
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11-01-2011, 06:26 PM #19
I have noticed that most people who get in big long nutritional arguments with Alan have delusions of grandeur.
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11-01-2011, 06:27 PM #20Actual Size Avi
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Strong disrespect for the Han Brothers Backyard Boxing Federation.Originally Posted by SOJA
Think you can, think you can't - doesn't matter. Either way, you're right.
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11-01-2011, 06:36 PM #21Registered User
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Are you sure he wishes to become a medical doctor? Maybe by MD he meant he wished to become a massive dick, in which case
Or maybe he wants to have a massive dick? In which case...
OR
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11-01-2011, 06:47 PM #22NOW HAS A LOG!!!!
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Originally Posted by trance__dreamer
his asian father must be disappoint.
"Whoa, peanut-butter does look a lot like Cum." - Alan Aragon
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11-01-2011, 07:17 PM #23superuser
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What med school did this ******* graduate from? Where did he do his residency?
Daniel, please respond.The more that you read, the more things you'll know.
The more that you learn, the more places you'll go.
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11-01-2011, 11:10 PM #24Banned
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He ain't graduated med school. He has plans to go to med school, but I don't know (or care about) the details. The point is that there will always be a market for quackery & unicorn-based BS because people are not willing to look facts in the face.
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11-01-2011, 11:16 PM #25Not actually named untz.
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Could have just said, "there will always be paleo dieters." Would have saved a couple seconds.Originally Posted by alan aragon
All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone.
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11-01-2011, 11:33 PM #26Registered User
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yup remember that MrMisanthrope guy. He obviously wasn't stupid just unwilling to change his opinion regardless of the facts you and many others provided him.Originally Posted by alan aragon
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11-01-2011, 11:43 PM #27Registered User
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lmfaoOriginally Posted by mynameisuntz
www.bodyrecomposition.com + www.leangains.com + www.alanaragon.com + www.emma-leigh.com = profits.
I think that the Asian twist makes it solid & tight. - Aragon.
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11-01-2011, 11:45 PM #28Registered User
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MD's still have to pay ~45% of their wage in overheads even before they get taxed on it... So $300k turns into $165k, turns into ~$100k. A solid salary if you're into it for the right reasons (eg. help people), but obviously he's not.
Screw the intense 10+ years and $300k (after tax
) of study needed. Much easier and more profitable ways of making money if that's what you're after.
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11-01-2011, 11:59 PM #29Registered User
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Maybe he is thinks there is a lot of tax right-offs!Originally Posted by liammccarthy
MD's still have to pay ~45% of their wage in overheads even before they get taxed on it... So $300k turns into $165k, turns into ~$100k. A solid salary if you're into it for the right reasons (eg. help people), but obviously he's not.
Screw the intense 10+ years and $300k (after tax ) of study needed. Much easier and more profitable ways of making money if that's what you're after.
www.bodyrecomposition.com + www.leangains.com + www.alanaragon.com + www.emma-leigh.com = profits.
I think that the Asian twist makes it solid & tight. - Aragon.
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11-02-2011, 12:03 AM #30Binned
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) of study needed. Much easier and more profitable ways of making money if that's what you're after.
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