hey janky, you ever see these red flags, then try to talk yourself into it that they "might be different"
only to find out you done goofed and kick yourself for not listening to your gut?
fuuuuuuu
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10-28-2011, 10:37 AM #152
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As a girl who admits to having issues of jealousy/insecurity, I'm just gonna throw this out here from a female perspective.
1) Girls are catty by nature, and for that reason a lot of us don't get along well. You guys can neg me into oblivion, but I have several female friends/acquaintances that I talk to on a regular basis, am friendly with, and hang out from time to time. When it comes to best friends/confidants, mine are usually all men, with the exception of one long-time female friend. Girls, in general, are gossip whores and from personal experience if you tell one girl something (especially about someone else), all your friends will end up finding out. Guys, from my experience, listen to the problem, let you vent, throw in some comforting words to BS you and let it go. They're not concerned with running to their friends to tell them the latest gossip.
2) You're right, jealousy and callousness are completely undesirable traits, and it's not acceptable. A lot of girls get like that, and I admit that I can be like that too, even when I don't want to be. My best friend started dating someone, and I admit that I bugged out for a day or so. Call me an attention whore all you want, because I know that the reason I got upset is because I'm afraid I'll be shoved completely to the side, and I flat out told him this. My reaction bothered me a lot, but I'm aware of WHY I reacted like that - every close friendship I've had has ended because the other person had become more attached to someone else and had stopped making time for me, despite my efforts to hang out. Does this mean my buddy is going to do this to me? Not at all. But is it rational for me to think that it might? Yeah, it is.
I'm not saying this is the case all of the time, but if you're dealing with a girl that's being outwardly jealous and callous and you don't try to find out WHY she's being like that, there's a good chance she doesn't realize she's being that way. As humans our behaviors are shaped by our pasts, and if a person has been constantly abandoned, cheated on or anything related to abandonment it's easy to have recurring anxiety that it'll happen again. There's a difference between what's acceptable and what's not, though...if she's getting pissed because you're spending time with a girl you've been best friends with since you were 6 or coworkers or classmates, she needs to get over it. If you're focusing a lot of time talking to a girl you've only known casually, ignoring your girl, and hanging out with this other chick one-on-one, it's probably going to set her off. You can deny it all you want, but if your girlfriend or a girl you were interested had had her focus monopolized by some other dude, you'd probably be jealous too.Add me on PSN: stina_saurus
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Overly sensitive......
Can't stand that ****, I've known a few that loved to BS and talk with the guys but as soon as a joke was cracked on her she flipped out and said the guys were mean and they need think about her feelings. I like to joke and play around alot, if you can't do the same then we can't talk.
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Have actually been really sick the past month and eating like a fiend so I'm actually pushing 190...dem dere baby-bearing hips.
Honestly didn't read through thread. Replied to the first few posts which happened to be very relevant to me right now.
And if girls were more trustworthy and less backstabbing and gossipy, I'd have a lot more close female friends. Can't fight the facts though.Add me on PSN: stina_saurus
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10-28-2011, 01:59 PM #160
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Going to focus on this part.....
1) My GF would never "have her focus monopolized by some other dude". That's a blatant sign of disrespect unless her friend is on life-support in the hospital or something. I certainly wouldn't begrudge her her male friends (old friends that she had before me) but if she was constantly putting me on the back burner for another guy? Yeah.... we'd have a problem there.
2) If a girl I was interested in was seeing another dude I'd either sack up and make my intentions known to her or I'd move on and find another chick to crush on.
If you freak out on your guy friends every time they get a GF then you really need to stop being selfish and think about why you're friends with them in the first place.
If you like one of them then make a move.... if you don't then keep out of the way and be happy for them when they find someone.
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10-28-2011, 02:25 PM #161
Oh thank you! Janky, your first sentence has answered something I've been deeply pondering for years. That is exactly right--humans blindly accept/ignore whatever brings comfort, even when these comforts prove toxic in the long run. Yes! This applies to so many other areas of our lives as well. Thank you so much for this key, which I'll now utilize to open many doors. Don't neg me for 'that' metaphor!
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10-28-2011, 02:39 PM #162
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There's no need for me to delve into my life story on here, since 90% of you don't give a sh!t about what I have to say anyways, but there's a lot more to the story than just being a jealous bitch.
The way a person acts in general and subsequently reacts to certain situations is based on their past experiences. There's only so much a person can do to control their initial reaction, but what's important IMO is that they recognize their reactions and do their best to not let emotions and past experiences bias their actions. I know that my air of jealousy is a major character flaw...I don't try to hide it, I'm honest and explain why I feel the way I feel, and I take actions to show that I'm okay with what's happening. I flat out told my friend that I feel somewhat threatened because I'm afraid of losing contact or being abandoned, but I also told him that some day the three of us should grab drinks so I can get to know her.
This has been the first time it's been because a friend has a new GF. The other times have all been because they've "put me on the back burner" for other friends, but then got absorbed in other hanging out with other people and forgot about me. I'm friends with this kid for, among other reasons, the fact that he makes me feel more secure (go figure), doesn't judge me and always listens. He's been the first friend in a while (who hasn't moved beyond driving distance away) that has always been there for me...the thing that made me panic the most was the realization that that could change. "Panicked" is definitely a better way to put it than "freak out", I'm fully aware of how selfish even that is. I know it's not a positive thing to have to deal with - which is why I told him all of this, and also told him that I'm really happy for him and meant it truthfully. I'm not all about being the center of attention, I just don't want to be forgotten about. He and I rarely hang out but we talk daily, and it's the thought that that might change that scares me. Anyone who has moderate anxiety might understand this a little bit better...the thought of abandonment is a trigger for panic attacks for me.
And for the record...this is not me trying to make excuses for girls who go through their BF's phone, monitor their ******** activity and deny them the right to hang out with their friends, male or female - that kind of behavior is inexcusable. I like having control over situations, not of other people. Some people might argue that's the same thing, I don't think it is. I'm just trying to say that I think a lot of times people (read: misc) make assumptions about the way someone is acting without considering why they might behave a certain way.Add me on PSN: stina_saurus
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10-28-2011, 02:56 PM #163
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If a girl wants to be one of the guys, they can't pick and choose what parts of "being one of the guys" they partake in or expect special treatment. Maybe my mindset has changed a lot from working in an all-male environment for 4 years, but if you can't take it, don't dish it out. I used to slap or punch the guys at work when they pissed me off, but I didn't say a word when they hit me back...I've had some big ass bruises and almost a broken shin. I can't stand when women demand to be treated equally and then expect so many stupid little exceptions. If you want to be treated equally, don't complain when it doesn't work out in your favor. So far most women haven't managed this.
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Was really interesting reading your post, as I'm the same way. I can get along with and tolerate females just fine. I have a few female acquaintances that I will occasionally hang out with, go to dinner with, etc, but when it comes to people that I genuinely like and feel I have the most in common with, they tend to be males. Not even necessarily because of the whole gossiping factor, but my sense of humor and interests just tend to be more like a guys. My roommate is one of those girls who is constantly talking about guys, clothes, hair, makeup, celebrities, etc and I just do not give a fuk about talking about that. I'm not saying I don't like her, and I can definitely follow along with her superficial small talk, but I wouldn't ever consider her to be someone I genuinely like.
Unfortunately, I've found it hard to maintain close friendships with guys without them wanting to turn it into something more, or other people awkwardly trying to turn it into something more, so I pretty much end up being foreveralone a lot of times.
After reading so many of you guys saying that a girl with not a lot of close female friends is probably an attention whore with problems, it's making me self-reflect a bit lol
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I'm a tomboy by nature, not the butch type by any means, nor the Barbie-doll, superficial type. I'm the kind of girl that points out the chick with the nice ass to my buddies and isn't grossed out by porn, so I totally relate to the whole humor/interests thing (inb4 I'm a lesbian). Have also had issues with people assuming I'm dating my friends because we'd spend an insane amount of time together, and it was never the case. I'm not really the type to have have 100 "close" friends, either...I have 3, maybe 5 at the most true friends, the rest are more or less people I get along well with or are acquainted with. There are situations where I prefer the company of my female friends, but I'm pretty low-key and would rather burn **** on fire and play COD than go out clubbing.
I wondered the same thing too...starting to think that the guys who claim that girls who prefer the company of guys are "attention whores" who know too many girls that have to TRY to be one of the guys. I don't approach a group of guys and try to start acting macho around them, but if I'm at the bar I'm definitely drinking beer, not fruity drinks. I don't deny that I have my problems. Nobody is perfect. Everyone's persona is different and I think it's a little judgmental to assume that I'm an attention whore just because I relate more to guys than girls.Add me on PSN: stina_saurus
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She Constantly lies about anything
I had a girl who fitted the description of this whole thread like a glove.Her dad left when she was 10,mom was a useless woman.She would lie about the most insignificant things.Like about what she did at work,what she had for lunch,things that she did with friends,etc.I never could figure that out until i discovered that she was an emotional wreck.I just came here on the internet to lie
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Yes, previously in my youth. Not in the past 5 years or so. I listen to my gut. It's your subconscious saying "HEY FUKKTARD, DO THIS SHT AND YOULL FUKK UP YOUR LIFE".
You should listen
Shaped, yes. Dictated by no.
We're all rational adults capable of correcting things that make our lives shtty or create undesired outcomes. If you don't, you can't sit around blaming the past - you would need to then blame yourself for allowing it to create that type of present and future.
I read the rest of your post, and IMO it's not a huge detriment if a girl doesn't hang out with tons of girls. They all SAY that because when a guy asks a girl about her friends the first light bulb going off is "He's trying to hook up with my friends" and they shut that sht down ASAP.
"I dont hang out with girls" is their way of killing that off real quick.
In time, most girls that say that actually DO - they just want to cement something with the guy they like BEFORE he meets the friends.
If a girl really does only have guy friends and maybe 1 or 2 gfs at a time, in limited durations, then that is a HUGE red flag that she's a psycho kunt.
I agree. I'm an obnoxious joker and troll people all day long. If a girl can't laugh, I won't even acknowledge she exists. Not a red flag or indicator of a shtty person - just an incompatibility issue for me...
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fuuuu. good call. I hate this with a passion. Girls that lie about irrelevant sht! They lie so much they forget they're lying....
I had a fb that was like this, and that was the sole reason we never progressed past fb's. I met her fam, everyone was cool, they loved me, etc.
but she would always tell all these crazy ass stories about how her grandparents owned multi million dollar houses on the beach front, and she'd drive me by them... I'd be like "Lets stop and say hi" and its "Oh we cant right now but tomorrow!"
I'm like DUDE I DGAF WHERE THEY LIVE - they're cool as sht! They could live in a fukking trailer for all I care! And you've already slept w me, quit trying so fukking hard with your bullsht lies that no one believes!!!
ugh.
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1) Girls who say they get along better with guys and have mostly guy friends.
They're usually starved for attention. I knew a girl exactly like this, she was ugly/below average and the only reason she appeared to be more attractive than she was (over time) was because she was always surrounded by guys.
She would say things like "girls are boring" and "girls are bitchy". She wouldn't give any of the girls a chance.
She was a loser who ruined a trip we all went on because she felt insecure around some new girls I invited who were all down to earth and easy to get along with. And were more attractive than her.
I fukking hate these types of girls above all other types.
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---she's been on and off of meds such as prozac, anti-depressants, etc. not that this means theres something wrong with you but it usually indicates bad news for a relationship.
--- she hurts herself or talks about how she used to
---she becomes "addicted" to things very easily or has a family history of addiction
---shes been abused in the past
---she hides things from you especially her PHONE!!!!
---she has a strong tell (looks away when she lies, etc.) usually means lying is routine to her and shes not even trying to sell it to you because she feels that whatever she says you will believe
---she tells all her friends shes into you before you two actually talk
---shes passive aggressive when confronting you about something, always plays the victim (as op said; turns things on you)
---her best friend hates you and she doesnt seem to mind
---she's "fake" i.e. she acts one way when she wants something and completely different when you want something
---blatantly craves attention/ needs to defy people who say things about her
---has a big problem with beating herself up, i.e. when all else fails she starts saying she doesnt deserve you and that she always f's up
---she claims to never fit in or have/ keep friends
--- she "changes" when shes drunk
---she makes excuses for why she drinks without you
---uses the same few lies over and over (phone died, etc.)
---goes from answering your calls/texts all the time immediately to very rarely (this means she gets too comfortable too quick)
---will go all day without talking to you because you didnt contact her first.
---cries when you try to have a talk about something she did wrong (this will happen mainly when shes caught red handed or thinks that she is)
---lies frequently to others (in op) about where she is and what shes doing
--- talks alot about sex trades/ jobs like hooters, stripper, etc. not always true but trust me this is a dead giveaway especially if it happens after a few dates.
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These I can see, but the rest.... damn bro, you just disqualified 98% of women.
There's a difference between ANNOYING behaviors all women have, and red flags that only deceitful, selfish whoars have.
All girls will have annoying habits like nagging, whining, comparing themselves and the relationship, saying they have all guy friends, etc.
That doesn't really mean much in regards to their actual character.
Things like what you listed above ^ are a bit more substantial IMO.
Good call on girls that talk about doing porn or stripping or working at hooters.
Every girl I've ever known that's "joked" about this has really wanted to do it (or has). In all fairness, those girls usually are not relationship material by any stretch - unless you're into doing porn and sharing her.Common Sense Crew
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