What factors cause ME to be FA?

[Iwillsavetheday]

Is it poor social skills?
If so, what causes poor social skills?
What steps can one take to develop their social skills in the long run with the least amount of risk involved?

Ugly face?
Aside from genetics, what other factors contribute to poor appearance?
How can one combat this or prevent it from taking effect?


etc
etc...

Let's talk exclusively average guys who have potential.

[MetroBrah]

low test

bad parenting

[Iwillsavetheday]

low test

bad parenting

How can those two issues individually be fixed?

[wasp9166]

the maj of people being two faced dbags might be one of em

i mean, i go to the store early, when it's empty

but then i think, i'm sheltering myself , no way to meet a girl that way

but then i think about both of my cars being all fkd up with a new mark on em every time i look

[Iwillsavetheday]

the maj of people being two faced dbags might be one of em

i mean, i go to the store early, when it's empty

but then i think, i'm sheltering myself , no way to meet a girl that way

but then i think about both of my cars being all fkd up with a new mark on em every time i look

Elaborate.

[Muzzlrpress]

low test

bad parenting

this

[sdoo]

Introverted personality (Genetics)

Low self esteem (Bullied when young, emotional abuse from parents)

Physical characteristics (Short, ugly, fat)

Mental issues (Anxiety, depression, autism)

[phikappa]

Making posts on a message board about being FA

[InstantLoser]

Is it poor social skills?
If so, what causes poor social skills?
What steps can one take to develop their social skills in the long run with the least amount of risk involved?

Ugly face?
Aside from genetics, what other factors contribute to poor appearance?
How can one combat this or prevent it from taking effect?

Well...

Let's talk exclusively average guys who have potential.

****, nm. This excludes me.

[DoctorKazama]

Posting on the misc.

[Iwillsavetheday]

Introverted personality (Genetics)

Low self esteem (Bullied when young, emotional abuse from parents)

Physical characteristics (Short, ugly, fat)

Mental issues (Anxiety, depression, autism)

Phsyical- Workout/Lift weights?
Mental/Self-esteem- meditating, traveling, group hobbies, etc

[Iwillsavetheday]

Well...




****, nm. This excludes me.

How so?

[Silencespeaks]

As to average or a bit above average guys, say 5-7/10 range, I think it's personality and/or standards too high.

[InstantLoser]

How so?

You said you wanted to discuss strictly average guys who have actual potential.

[Iwillsavetheday]

Posting on the misc.

How?

[Iwillsavetheday]

You said you wanted to discuss strictly average guys who have actual potential.

You're implying that you have 0 potential to improve?

[2RDEYE]

Introverted personality (Genetics)

Low self esteem (Bullied when young, emotional abuse from parents)

Physical characteristics (Short, ugly, fat)

Mental issues (Anxiety, depression, autism)

this

[InstantLoser]

You're implying that you have 0 potential to improve?

Not implying anything. Pretty openly stating it. That and I'm sub-human filth, making me well below "average", which according to your criteria disqualifies me.

[Iwillsavetheday]

As to average or a bit above average guys, say 5-7/10 range, I think it's personality and/or standards too high.

What particular personality traits are a hindrance?
How can said traits be fixed?

[Iwillsavetheday]

Not implying anything. Pretty openly stating it. That and I'm sub-human filth, making me well below "average", which according to your criteria disqualifies me.

You're right, I didn't read your usernameme.

[InstantLoser]

You're right, I didn't read your usernameme.

Now you're getting it.

[MBisonSon]

fear of failure /thread

[InstantLoser]

fear of failure /thread

More like fear of assured failure. No point in trying something you A) have a massive phobia of, and B) have zero chance of succeeding at. I can't think of a greater waste of time for everyone involved.

[Silencespeaks]

What particular personality traits are a hindrance?
How can said traits be fixed?

Like mentioned above introversion, insecurity, anxiety etc. Also maybe feminity/lack of masculinity.

Imagine two average looking guys, one is very confident, outgoing, extraverted, masculine, positive etc. The other is insecure, introverted, feminine, anxious, negative etc. I think there would be a huge difference in their success with women.

[Iwillsavetheday]

Like mentioned above introversion, insecurity, anxiety etc. Also maybe feminity/lack of masculinity.

Imagine two average looking guys, one is very confident, outgoing, extraverted, masculine, positive etc. The other is insecure, introverted, feminine, anxious, negative etc. I think there would be a huge difference in their success with women.

Although introversion is genetic, would it be fair to say that the other traits can be fixed? At least then the introverted guy can be confident but quiet/mysterious.

[MBisonSon]

More like fear of assured failure. No point in trying something you A) have a massive phobia of, and B) have zero chance of succeeding at. I can't think of a greater waste of time for everyone involved.

LOL still fear of failure.

Stop complaining too I know at least one guy who's more or less on your looks level and he's engaged to a pretty attractive woman.

Yes if you're not over a certain threshold of physical attractiveness it's gonna be harder, but all you're looking for is potentially one success.

[InstantLoser]

LOL still fear of failure.

Stop complaining too I know at least one guy who's more or less on your looks level and he's engaged to a pretty attractive woman.

Yes if you're not over a certain threshold of physical attractiveness it's gonna be harder, but all you're looking for is potentially one success.

Anecdotes sir.

[Iwillsavetheday]

LOL still fear of failure.

Stop complaining too I know at least one guy who's more or less on your looks level and he's engaged to a pretty attractive woman.

Yes if you're not over a certain threshold of physical attractiveness it's gonna be harder, but all you're looking for is potentially one success.

There will always be a percentage of success regardless of failures. The ratio may suck but it's apart of the game.

[MBisonSon]

Anecdotes sir.

Eh I've shown proof, it's really up to you to take it as encouragement or make an excuse as to why it's not possible.

That's how life works, just 'wanting something' isn't good enough.

[Silencespeaks]

Although introversion is genetic, would it be fair to say that the other traits can be fixed? At least then the introverted guy can be confident but quiet/mysterious.

I don't know. I think it's very hard to change personality traits in an adult, especially the older you get. They'd have to really want it and work very hard at it.