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    Dang Mike...heal up quick my man! I'm sure whatever route you decide to opt for, it'll be for the best.

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    Thanks guys, appreciate it. Right now I'm just concerned with getting rid of the pain, Then I'll take it from there. This is my life and training will always be a part of it to some degree. I will still train heavy and stay as big as I can. Its just who I am. I just have to decide if I want to take it back to that level or just be happy squatting 500or so for reps. LOL. We will see, but I will keep my core strength going and size, so if I do choose to compete, it won't take much to get there.

    After my last meet in Oct of 09, I didn't train heavy till the end of Jan 2011. I didn't squat more than 540 or so that whole time. By May I was squatting over 600 again. So I'm not worried there.

    Or like I mentioned, I can work on cutting up and do some bodybuilding. Saturday I trained using only the Hammer Strength machines(I actually like them), and got the most incredible pump in my chest!!!

    Instead of videos I can just post progress pics every week!!
    what is this "pump" that you speak of?!?
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    Dang Mike...heal up quick my man! I'm sure whatever route you decide to opt for, it'll be for the best.

    what is this "pump" that you speak of?!?
    Not really sure, I had only heard about it talked about in quite cycles about the gym....I might have tapped into something......
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    Yesterday I went back to the Hospital for Special Surgery and got an epidural injection in my back. Took about 15 minutes, was over before I knew it. The doctor said it may take a few days to kick in. But I'm feeling kinda good right now, the numbness in my left leg is gone, just feeling sore from the injections.

    I brought the video of how I hurt my back to the doctor, thought he might appreciate it. He said only one other person ever brought him in video. When he came into the procedure room, he said he asked the other doctors,PAs, nurses etc, how much they thought I was lifting when I got hurt, the guessed around 300, he said when he said 670 they didnt believe him, then he showed them the video. So needless to say, that video became the big talk in the back there and was answering alot of questions as the wheeled me to the recovery room. LOL.

    Then the nurses couldn't believe I was 37 and thought I was more like 31-32 though one thought 28.....NICE!! Good thing my dad came with me and not my wife! LOL!!
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    Hopefully that's what you needed to heal up.

    So they gave you n epidural to numb it up, then what? What was the purpose of the surgery? To repair the discs?
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    lol...I wanna see you back in 100%
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    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    Hopefully that's what you needed to heal up.

    So they gave you n epidural to numb it up, then what? What was the purpose of the surgery? To repair the discs?

    The doctor said this is EXACTLY what I need to fix this problem. His words actually were to fix this episode.

    I didnt get the same type of epidoral that pregnant woman get. They get it just to get numb. This was to actually inject the steroids right into my spine around the discs, the get rid of the inflammation and may actually draw the discs back in a little. He did give me injections in my back first to numb it, then he gave me the big one.

    I didnt have surgery. Nor plan to or need to. He said my discs are not bad at ALL, just mild herniations. He also said that he believes I had these herniations for quite some time(years).

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    lol...I wanna see you back in 100%
    Me too! I have been giving some thought as to what to do, but I think it will be a more progressive thing that will help make up my mind. But if I DO decide to try and compete again, it may be for a just one or MAYBE 2 shot deal.
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    Good deal. Hopefully the doc was right and this fixed it.
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    I think you should respond well to the epidural, I have had at least 50 clients get them as an alternative to surgery and would say that the success rate is around 70-80%. Basically if your herniations are minimal then the nerve involvement (which is causing the pain and numbness) is likely a result of inflammation and/or spondylosis or stenosis (a narrowing of the spinal canal leaving the nerve roots more exposed). The epidural will (hopefully) both serve to reduce the inflammation and possibly restore better disc height and spacing and basically leave more margin for error (ie. it is harder for sweliing to "get to" the nerve). Did they schedule you for 3 or are they going to see how the first one goes and work from there? The good news is that it doesn't sound like the disc itself is causing the neuropathy in which case they would have to go in and clean it up. Good luck with it, sounds like the news has been very positive.
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    Originally Posted by dtaps24 View Post
    I think you should respond well to the epidural, I have had at least 50 clients get them as an alternative to surgery and would say that the success rate is around 70-80%. Basically if your herniations are minimal then the nerve involvement (which is causing the pain and numbness) is likely a result of inflammation and/or spondylosis or stenosis (a narrowing of the spinal canal leaving the nerve roots more exposed). The epidural will (hopefully) both serve to reduce the inflammation and possibly restore better disc height and spacing and basically leave more margin for error (ie. it is harder for sweliing to "get to" the nerve). Did they schedule you for 3 or are they going to see how the first one goes and work from there? The good news is that it doesn't sound like the disc itself is causing the neuropathy in which case they would have to go in and clean it up. Good luck with it, sounds like the news has been very positive.
    The doctor said I would only need this one. Never mentioned getting more. The problem was the L3 nerve. I'll see how I feel in the next few days. I'm feeling pretty good about it and I have alot of confidence in my doctor. He is one of the top guys in this field. So I know I'm in good hands.
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    Originally Posted by Mike.Moore View Post
    The doctor said I would only need this one. Never mentioned getting more. The problem was the L3 nerve. I'll see how I feel in the next few days. I'm feeling pretty good about it and I have alot of confidence in my doctor. He is one of the top guys in this field. So I know I'm in good hands.
    Sounds good. A lot of times they do 3 injections, but if 1 works hopefully there's no need. Glad to hear you're with someone good, a lot of doctors can't get their head around heavy lifting but clearly your guy seems pretty reasonable.
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    glad to hear/read the positivity of it all...no surgery and that they are "mild".
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    Sounds good. A lot of times they do 3 injections, but if 1 works hopefully there's no need. Glad to hear you're with someone good, a lot of doctors can't get their head around heavy lifting but clearly your guy seems pretty reasonable.
    He only mentioned the one, and I am feeling pretty good right now, but if I need more, no problem, went MUCH easier than I thought. No big deal. I am the first powerlifter to see him, but he deals with professional athletes all the time. So he understands where I am coming from and never once said I should stop squatting, or never squat again. Only that there is a risk there to do more damage, but that risk is there regardless just because of the nature of the lift itself. Just told me to wait at least a week, then start coming back slowly. I may wait a bit longer.

    http://www.hss.edu/physicians_waldman-seth.asp

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    glad to hear/read the positivity of it all...no surgery and that they are "mild".
    So far I'm doing ok. But my buddy gave me some bad news, he says that a belt is in my future......
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    Originally Posted by Mike.Moore View Post

    So far I'm doing ok. But my buddy gave me some bad news, he says that a belt is in my future......

    lol...it's a good thing that's not the worst news...


    BTW will you be there Saturday AM? My wife will be home and I would be able to go...and pick ur brain...
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    lol...it's a good thing that's not the worst news...


    BTW will you be there Saturday AM? My wife will be home and I would be able to go...and pick ur brain...
    True....now I have to go pick out a belt.....joy....

    Yes I will be there. I probably won't be benching. But I will definitely be there. We can work on your bench.
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    Originally Posted by Mike.Moore View Post
    True....now I have to go pick out a belt.....joy....

    Yes I will be there. I probably won't be benching. But I will definitely be there. We can work on your bench.
    cool, if you don't mind, that would be great. gotta have it all straightened out by meet day, in March.

    what time again?
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    cool, if you don't mind, that would be great. gotta have it all straightened out by meet day, in March.

    what time again?
    No, I don't mind at all. I just probably wont be benching, just doing gay machine work.I get there about 8-8:15, I should be there till 10-10:30. I used to get there exactly 8 or few minutes before but since I live 5 minutes away now, I havent been able to time it right. LOL!!
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    No, I don't mind at all. I just probably wont be benching, just doing gay machine work.I get there about 8-8:15, I should be there till 10-10:30. I used to get there exactly 8 or few minutes before but since I live 5 minutes away now, I havent been able to time it right. LOL!!
    ha! alright, great. So I'll be there at 8 as well.

    I truly appreciate it.
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    ha! alright, great. So I'll be there at 8 as well.

    I truly appreciate it.
    Cool, I'll be in the back doing some abs and maybe stretching. Doubt you can miss me....

    No sweat, I'm here to help. Do you actually plan on benching?
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    Cool, I'll be in the back doing some abs and maybe stretching. Doubt you can miss me....

    No sweat, I'm here to help. Do you actually plan on benching?
    Saturdays are typically OHP, but considering this week is a deload week, along with the fact that I will be taking pointers from you.

    I think it would be best that I bench.
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    Good idea

    though I may have to bench now.....
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    Good idea

    though I may have to bench now.....
    dang...now I'll really look puny.....
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    Originally Posted by B1GinNY82307 View Post
    dang...now I'll really look puny.....
    Just don’t stand next to me then….lol

    Don’t worry dude, I don’t care what anyone lifts, I just want to see them do it right. None in my crew makes fun of anyone for what they lift or can’t lift, I don’t allow it. We may bust balls, but we don’t make fun. Saturday will be about working on your form and getting you a bigger bench. Like I said before, benching is easy, sucks…but easy….

    And besides….I highly doubt I’d be benching remotely heavy…..I have been doing Hammer Strength machines the last few weeks. But will just be easier to bench to help you.
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    So Mike, how do you train your Deadlift? Or are you one of those types who lets the Squat build your Deadlift?
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    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    So Mike, how do you train your Deadlift? Or are you one of those types who lets the Squat build your Deadlift?
    I train my deadlift in the warmup room at the meet. I take after my friend Kara Bohigian
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    Originally Posted by Mike.Moore View Post
    I train my deadlift in the warmup room at the meet. I take after my friend Kara Bohigian
    So how does your Deadlift fare in competition compared to your Squat?
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    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    So how does your Deadlift fare in competition compared to your Squat?
    680/610
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    So do you feel that your Deadlift number is just a product of your Squat training?

    I know you have a Bench day, Squat day and a Shoulder day. Do you also have a back day? Or do you just do that on Bench day?

    Thanks for answering all of my questions all the time lol.
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    Originally Posted by Mike.Moore View Post
    I train my deadlift in the warmup room at the meet. I take after my friend Kara Bohigian
    damn u....lol.


    her bench technique is/was quite unique:

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    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    So do you feel that your Deadlift number is just a product of your Squat training?

    I know you have a Bench day, Squat day and a Shoulder day. Do you also have a back day? Or do you just do that on Bench day?

    Thanks for answering all of my questions all the time lol.
    Pretty much I guess, I honestly don't worry in the least about my deadlift. I have just been working on my grip. I believe I can pull 20-30 pounds more if I improve my grip, of course my training partner says I'd be pulling over 7 if I actually trained it. Yeah yeah....

    I do have a "back" day. Couple reasons. First I don't deadlift, but even if I did I still would. I can't do any back work after bench. On bench day, by the time I finish everything, I've been in the gym for at least 2 hours, I wanna go the **** home. Plus I feel its important enough to warrant its own day and lastly I like having a wide back that I can sell advertising on.

    But I actually don't do awhole lot. About 3 exercises. Like tonight(I'm still not training too heavy), I did about 6 sets of pulldowns, 4 sets of seated cable rows and 3 sets of dumbbell rows -100x12,120x12,140x12
    * I usually do padded t-bars(chest supported rows), I always called that my bread and butter of my back routine. Strongly believe in those. I go as heavy as I can with them. Just laying off them right now.

    I never mind answering questions. If you ask something I don't like, I just won't answer....lol
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    Originally Posted by B1GinNY82307 View Post
    damn u....lol.


    her bench technique is/was quite unique:

    Yeah, she had to change it a bit after she hurt her knee. She moved her legs out wider. She talked me into getting my first bench shirt, then cut the back out. Was funny handing off to her in my gym, watching all the guys watching a chick benching 400+
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