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    Originally Posted by mannydawg View Post
    If you need a spotter to give you more confidence/motivation when you lift you need to reevaluate your reasons for lifting.


    For me not having a spotter on Bench for example gives me more motivation.
    Its either get the phucken weight up or get crushed under it. And you know what?
    I have yet to fail, even when rep 2 out of 5 feels heavy as phuck.

    I do not recommend this, as It can be potentially dangerous.
    I used a spotter on a 1rm squat PR on Friday and missed it... spotter helped me lock it and get it racked. Better than hitting failure and getting buried on the pins psychologically I think.
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    i always lift with a spotter, our monolift has no safety bars. Plus handing out your own bench is where a lot of injuries happen. I also dare you guys to drop the bar off your back at a meet. That will get you DQ'd and most likely your **** kicked in. Its the worst thing you can do.
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    Originally Posted by Lvisaa2 View Post
    I heard taking a cheap shot at a very respected poster is pretty cool. Common sense says don't be a douche to someone who simply chooses to use a spotter when working a PR. Is there some issue with doing it? No.
    I wish I had a spotter when testing my 1RM a couple weeks ago. Sure the safety bars are there, but I'd rather have that psychological boost of knowing someone's there if I falter.
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    Originally Posted by Phrak View Post
    i always lift with a spotter, our monolift has no safety bars. Plus handing out your own bench is where a lot of injuries happen. I also dare you guys to drop the bar off your back at a meet. That will get you DQ'd and most likely your **** kicked in. Its the worst thing you can do.
    I don't think anyone would doubt using a spotter with an apparatus that has no safety bars.

    If I fail it's usually due to posterior chain weakness, so I don't even get out of the hole. Nothing a spotter can really do at that point.
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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post
    I don't think anyone would doubt using a spotter with an apparatus that has no safety bars.
    I just dont condone this dropping the bar. Think its retarded.
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    Originally Posted by Phrak View Post
    I just dont condone this dropping the bar. Think its retarded.
    Dropping the bar where?
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    Originally Posted by illiniStrive View Post
    Dropping the bar where?
    mis read manny's post. its early, i thought he was dropping the bar off his back onto the pins. Made me furious. I should read stuff better.
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    Originally Posted by mannydawg View Post
    If you need a spotter to give you more confidence/motivation when you lift you need to reevaluate your reasons for lifting.
    strong reading comprehension. What I was saying is that seeing as lifting is both a physical and MENTAL game, if you have a doubt in yourself, that could basically blow your chances in the lift because you unconsciously talk yourself out of it before even doing it. if you have a spotter, it may give you that extra smidgen of confidence that you need to do the lift.

    This is all personal preference, (ie, some people such as yourself mightfeel more confident without a spot while others feel they need a spot)
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    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    strong reading comprehension. What I was saying is that seeing as lifting is both a physical and MENTAL game, if you have a doubt in yourself, that could basically blow your chances in the lift because you unconsciously talk yourself out of it before even doing it. if you have a spotter, it may give you that extra smidgen of confidence that you need to do the lift.

    This is all personal preference, (ie, some people such as yourself mightfeel more confident without a spot while others feel they need a spot)
    I comprehended exactly what you meant. My positions stands. If you need someone else to give you that extra bit of confidence to lift a weight then you need to get the phuck out of the gym and only return when your ready to kill the weights yourself. Yes using a spotter can be helpful if trying a 1rm on bench or taking a set to failure etc. etc. but that's it. A spotter IMO should not give you even a smidgen of confidence to lift a weight. THAT should be all you.
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    Whenever I fail i just reverse direction until the bar sits lightly on the safety bars. I hate having a spotter for squatting. Feels uncomfortable man.
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    Originally Posted by Lvisaa2 View Post
    I heard taking a cheap shot at a very respected poster is pretty cool. Common sense says don't be a douche to someone who simply chooses to use a spotter when working a PR. Is there some issue with doing it? No.
    Respected by who? People in the MEN thread? Retards who use the worthless supplements he promotes? come on be realistic.
    Plus taking a cheap shot at someone negligent to accept science when presented to them is not really a cheap shot but a statement of fact regarding their stupidity. The same way many people on here take cheap shots at synthetic. The same way people take cheap shots at Rugger etc. etc. They can be good posters but regardless of what they post they are still known as a crappy posters.
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    Did sh!it just get real in the humble brag thread?
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    Originally Posted by Xfaxtor View Post
    Did sh!it just get real in the humble brag thread?
    Oh, this is the humble brag thread?

    Shoot, I've been posting my stuff in the wrong place
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    Originally Posted by Ashlei View Post
    Flexibility is so important!

    Are you sure about your arms...that you can't straighten them? They look straight in your avi. Just because careful of pulling/tearing something in your arms.

    lol @ the accordion comment. GJ posting videos to work on form. Post more as you start to fix stuff.
    Positive. I don't know what it is. No matter what they will not go 180 degrees. I feel like if I try to push it there I'll snap my arm in half. My right arm is actually more so inflexible. If I put my hand on my lower back palm out and go up, it only gets about halfway up. I don't know if it's a deformity or I was just cursed. But will work hard on it. You're a great help
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    Originally Posted by Ashlei View Post
    I wish I had a spotter when testing my 1RM a couple weeks ago. Sure the safety bars are there, but I'd rather have that psychological boost of knowing someone's there if I falter.
    can I spot you on dem dere atg squats?
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    Originally Posted by ZMan45 View Post
    Positive. I don't know what it is. No matter what they will not go 180 degrees. I feel like if I try to push it there I'll snap my arm in half. My right arm is actually more so inflexible. If I put my hand on my lower back palm out and go up, it only gets about halfway up. I don't know if it's a deformity or I was just cursed. But will work hard on it. You're a great help
    Just don't want you to tear a muscle. GL with everything, and I'm glad I could help you out.

    eta: and like I said, just take things one at a time to fix them. It took me forever to get my squat form down (and it probably still needs some tweaking). Keep up the good work.
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    Originally Posted by Anabolichef View Post
    can I spot you on dem dere atg squats?
    The hard thing in my gym shorts is just my shaker bottle, I promise...
    lol. my what a large shaker bottle you have.


    There's really only one guy in my gym I let spot me on squats, and even on bench I don't like anyone else. He actually knows what he's doing and doesn't try to nudge the bar and is supportive/motivating to get the weight back up.
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    I like to have a spotter when going really heavy on squats... *shrugs*
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    Z - Please switch to double overhand before you tear a bicep.
    Yes sir. Thank you, a horrible arm injury is the about the last thing I need.
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    Originally Posted by Ashlei View Post
    There's really only one guy in my gym I let spot me on squats, and even on bench I don't like anyone else. He actually knows what he's doing and doesn't try to nudge the bar and is supportive/motivating to get the weight back up.
    Good spotters are hard to come by, apparently. I've never been spotted on a squat before; I'd be v distracted...
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    Only lift I want a spot on is the bench. In my opinion, unless you dont haves rack, the only lift that needs a spot. A good hand off makes or breaks a bench. But I still never have a spot. I go in with the mentality that I'd rather **** out my spleen than miss a lift. I think it was Coan who said missing lifts isn't for outside of competitions.
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    Originally Posted by mannydawg View Post
    I don't get it. Why do you need a spotter on squats when you have the safety bars?
    If I get stuck I just drop down on my ass and the bar ends up on the safety bars.
    Exactly what they were designed for. Common sense to me.


    Then again common sense isn't that common. cough, cough, Xtend
    There are many reasons for a spotter as shown below:
    While i respect your decision, that is your personal prefrence, I enjoy a spotter especially for bench lift offs and if I do want to attempt something I am striving to achieve for.
    Yes my goal is to break my previous best and thats my intention when lifting. I guess I don't take my lifting serious to try and beat my previous best and build my physique for the next time I step on stage. That is the idea behind bodybuilding correct?

    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    IME, spotters allow for that extra little bit of confidence that would otherwise hold you back.
    True, I rather have someone behind me just incase than to cause a scene and dump the weight.

    Originally Posted by Lvisaa2 View Post
    I heard taking a cheap shot at a very respected poster is pretty cool. Common sense says don't be a douche to someone who simply chooses to use a spotter when working a PR. Is there some issue with doing it? No.
    Welcome to the internet.

    Originally Posted by Phrak View Post
    i always lift with a spotter, our monolift has no safety bars. Plus handing out your own bench is where a lot of injuries happen. I also dare you guys to drop the bar off your back at a meet. That will get you DQ'd and most likely your **** kicked in. Its the worst thing you can do.
    Injury x1000000. Not only on bench but squat as well. Going for a ME lift and coming down awkwardly could put me out for a long time rather than having someone behind you to support your lift if you do happen to fail.
    "Better safe than sorry" I would rather have a spot than blow out of my knee from failing on a lift and be out for months or even a year depending on the severity.
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    Originally Posted by mannydawg View Post
    Respected by who? People in the MEN thread? Retards who use the worthless supplements he promotes? come on be realistic.
    Plus taking a cheap shot at someone negligent to accept science when presented to them is not really a cheap shot but a statement of fact regarding their stupidity. The same way many people on here take cheap shots at synthetic. The same way people take cheap shots at Rugger etc. etc. They can be good posters but regardless of what they post they are still known as a crappy posters.
    He is a respected poster by multiple people throughout this forum. He gives stand-up advice and has never once pushed anything he reps on me or have I seen him push it on anyone else. Read some of the logs he posts in, his posts are filled with encouragement and suggestions. TBH, IDGAF what company he works for, because he is a good guy. Maybe you should get off your high horse and realize people will do things different than you.

    If you need someone else to give you that extra bit of confidence to lift a weight then you need to get the phuck out of the gym and only return when your ready to kill the weights yourself
    Please post a video of you squatting 315x6. When you do it come back and then talk about how people choose to do things. BRB bashing someone about something that is completely personal preference.

    BTW, I never use a spotter, but I see nothing wrong with someone else doing it.
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    Originally Posted by drewbie57 View Post
    Good spotters are hard to come by, apparently. I've never been spotted on a squat before; I'd be v distracted...
    Yes they are! Most want to help too much by touching the bar.

    Luckily this guy is a nice guy, so I don't mind him spotting me on squat, but I see your point!
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    Originally Posted by Ashlei View Post
    Yes they are! Most want to help too much by touching the bar.

    Luckily this guy is a nice guy, so I don't mind him spotting me on squat, but I see your point!
    Ive spotted a couple girls on the bench and squat. Always feel like a creep when i have to grab the bar off their chest luls.
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    Originally Posted by Phrak View Post
    Ive spotted a couple girls on the bench and squat. Always feel like a creep when i have to grab the bar off their chest luls.
    lol! I usually fail about halfway up after repping a couple out, so no grabbing off the chest has happened here (yet).
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    Originally Posted by Phrak View Post
    Ive spotted a couple girls on the bench and squat. Always feel like a creep when i have to grab the bar off their chest luls.
    Agree, this girl below is someone who i trained with quite often when I was in college. While it may be weird to spot a girl on squatting/benching it also depends on how serious they are related to lifting. The girl has a passion for the sport and is looking to compete in the future so she takes her lifting pretty serious, so in the end we were both there pushing each other to improve every session.



    Originally Posted by BunkMoreland View Post
    she's cute bro. you guys together?
    We are very good friends, never dated, we keep in touch daily. I live a few hours from here, so a long term thing would probably not work well both being in education as our major's and if we had to reloacte dealing with getting a job.
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    she's cute bro. you guys together?
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