Keep it up guise, we're over 80% there!
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09-09-2011, 11:03 AM #211
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09-09-2011, 11:03 AM #212
Maybe the reason HFCS/Sugar/Fructose is an issue is because that it is over-consumed.
*Could we make the same argument that red meat is over consumed among inactive adults resulting in less than optimal cardiovascular health?
Is it red meat and lifestyle or a conscious choice of both by the individual that's to blame?
*I have no claim to red meat = poor cardiovascular health, it was for illustrative purposes only.
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09-09-2011, 11:09 AM #213
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Pretty much everything in excess is going to be harmful. Even more so when there are already health issues or lifestyle problems at hand.(obesity, low activity, medical issues).
Most studies aren't done on healthy, athletic individuals with good meal plans. Something is always lacking and it's so bloody easy to draw the wrong conclusions depending on what "you" want to see in it.
I'm gonna stick to the old but true - Moderation is the key - slogan and that's that.Owner of:
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09-09-2011, 11:10 AM #214
Nothing, jsut annoyed me coming into the thread claiming genetics have nothing to do with her progress while contributing nothing to this thread of any value. That is dumb, stop WKing
don't know her, and all she did was annoy me and not contribute, sorry
Journal/LOG - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=172023491#post172023491
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09-09-2011, 11:11 AM #215
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09-09-2011, 11:12 AM #216
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09-09-2011, 11:14 AM #218
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You think you need genetics to diet down to low BF%?
Sure genetics play a role in growth, muscle bellies, etc. But having trouble getting lean without any previous medical conditions is not something to blame "****ty genetics" on.
Let's just say that for BB, my genetics are less than optimal.Just a weight lifter
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09-09-2011, 11:17 AM #219
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Masterjb is an idiot. I have mediocre (maybe even horrible) genetics and I still got down to ~5% bodyfat while eating cereal as my main source of carbohydrate. I love how quick the bros are to pull the genetics card.
"Nutrition for powerlifting: If you are serious about it, you will eat f*cking everything and get strong as $hit." - HamburgerTrain
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163165741
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09-09-2011, 11:17 AM #220
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09-09-2011, 11:19 AM #221
It's certainly part of it. Genetically she may have a higher test level than other women, thus allowing her to get lean easier. That is just one of a million genetic traits she may possess that assisted her in dieting. Perhaps she has a gene where her cells contain a 10% higher mitochondrial concentration than others, allowing her to burn fat more efficiently. Again, genetics have everything to do with it. Maybe they find proof of a will power gene, and she has it. etc etc.
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09-09-2011, 11:20 AM #222
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09-09-2011, 11:23 AM #224
Who the **** are you? Scientists already identified a three genotypes where some people respond better to low carb diets, some to low fat, and some unfortunately must go low carb and low fat to burn fat more efficiently. This is genetics. You may be a low fat genotype. Not saying you can't get down you ****tard, anyone can starve themselves, but genetics allow you to do it more optimally, and easier.
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09-09-2011, 11:24 AM #225
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09-09-2011, 11:25 AM #226
A hypothetical is an ironic twist to this thread.
Of course genetics play a part, but you're rationalizing again.
HFCS cause obesity, not lazy people with little ambition that eat too much.
Genetics are the reason people can become ripped, not hard work determination and a comprehensive understanding of nutrition.
I've seen people that were 80lbs OVER-weight and manage to get to single digit body fat, what gene(s) cover both ends of the spectrum?
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09-09-2011, 11:26 AM #227
smh, duh, but makes it way easier, and what I was originally talking to her about was that not everyone would be able to diet down to 3-4% bodyfat counting cals and macros only while eating sugar and refined carbs. They would turn into a wasted, starving, mess
Go back to page 3 and start over... I blow over it b/c I have made these same points repeatedly and it gets tiring repeating over and over for nnewbies in the thread...Journal/LOG - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=172023491#post172023491
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09-09-2011, 11:28 AM #228
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09-09-2011, 11:35 AM #232
We can't prove at this time what genes you ahve or don't have for fat loss along with your ability to preserve lean mass. But based on your insinuations (which are also in your sig), I find it safe to say you possess great genetic traits for fat loss. Whether it was test lvl or not is irrelevant. That was just to illustrate my point.
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09-09-2011, 11:36 AM #233
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09-09-2011, 11:39 AM #234
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09-09-2011, 11:42 AM #235
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09-09-2011, 11:43 AM #236
Missing the point. All these studies are saying is that fructose is non satiating b/c of a lack of bg and insulin response, differing metabolic pathways, etc. And no, pineapples (there would be hardly any fructose in this anyways, but that doesn't matter for this point) on a pizza will not cause you to eat another slice lol come on... You are making broad inaccurate generalizations. Anyway, done debating today, heading to the gym. See you guys later =)
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