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    Originally Posted by 66jzmstr View Post
    IN and SUBBED for consistent LURK.

    I like your flexible approach to macros. Is that something you came up with, or did you come across it elsewhere first?

    Also, do you happen to know what your maintenance is?

    Good luck, Adam!
    Thanks man!

    I dont know my exact maintenance but I'd guess about 2600 from what I've seen over the last month, but maybe more.

    I doubt I'm the first person to approach macros that way but it's not something I read or picked up, just kind of decided!

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    Good luck Adam. Glad to see you've decided to just go for it and not spin your wheels anymore. I'll definitely be lurking.
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    Originally Posted by JHarden View Post
    Good luck Adam. Glad to see you've decided to just go for it and not spin your wheels anymore. I'll definitely be lurking.
    Thanks for stoppin by!

    Feels good eating more, but my body definitely isn't used to the extra food volume yet, that's for sure.

    Good luck with your bulk too!

    Today my friend is getting married so who knows what kind of stuff there will be
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post

    Today my friend is getting married so who knows what kind of stuff there will be
    Bridesmaids?

    And dont get caught up with the weights ur liftin, like you said, just make sure you're feelin it and you know its workin.

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    Originally Posted by Adam2519 View Post
    Bridesmaids?

    And dont get caught up with the weights ur liftin, like you said, just make sure you're feelin it and you know its workin.

    Keep it up man
    Man oh MAN that was fun.

    Wine.

    Women.

    Dancing.

    Ohhhhh lordy I am still buzzed.

    I never drink, so the 4 glasses of wine I had over 5 hours actually got me a good tingle goin.

    Needless to say I ate some awesome food:

    Lasagna, Garlic bread, Italian Salad, CAKE... CAKE.. CAKE... Upcakes.. and CAKE!!!

    THen I danced it up with some fine ladiiiiiies. One in particular was quite friendly. Hardy HOOOOOO yea!!!

    Anyway, I just about hit my macros for the day, perhaps 100 or so short of my calorie goal, but easily got my protein and fat in, and plenty of good carbs before going full blast on the partying stuff.

    Very fun experience (my first wedding ever) and very happy with the day overal.

    Tomorrow will be a lifting day and back on full-calorie plan!

    NIGHT EVERYONE!!

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    I find it hard to imagine you didn't exceed 3000 cals. The wine alone was about 500. Lasagna is very calorie dense as is cake and garlic bread. I guess it depends on how many calories you burned AFTER the wedding!
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    I find it hard to imagine you didn't exceed 3000 cals. The wine alone was about 500. Lasagna is very calorie dense as is cake and garlic bread. I guess it depends on how many calories you burned AFTER the wedding!
    I didn't eat huge portions and I didn't have much for bfast, but u could right.
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    Adam, bulk however you like, just make sure you are actually bulking. Your macros look fine, and even if they change daily, as long as you are in a caloric surplus and meeting minimums, you will grow.

    Glad you had a good time at the wedding!
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    Originally Posted by lovingit View Post
    Adam, bulk however you like, just make sure you are actually bulking. Your macros look fine, and even if they change daily, as long as you are in a caloric surplus and meeting minimums, you will grow.

    Glad you had a good time at the wedding!
    Thanks!

    I'm actually doing it cleanly of course, just with some flexibility in there so I can vary things whenever possible. Oddly enough I weighed myself this morning and I'm way heavier than last Wednesday: like 3 pounds heavier, though I'm sure it's probably water + more food still in my body, etc.
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    So here's today's plan:



    If you notice a lot of weird (AWadd) headings in my foods, it's because I Create all mind in myfitnesspal (i don't trust other people)

    Also I calculate based on the macro count, not the calorie output from the tool since it takes out fiber, etc, it seems from certain foods. The total was about 3050 i think.
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    I didn't eat huge portions and I didn't have much for bfast, but u could right.
    Perhaps not but its one day.

    You had alot of high carb foods last night. Don't freak out about the gain
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    DW about what the scale says too much. I am 179lbs, weighed myself this morning and I was 181lbs. After my workout I weighed myself again and I was back down to 179lbs. Your weight will fluctuate depending on what you've eaten, if you're dehydrated and the time of day.
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    Perhaps not but its one day.

    You had alot of high carb foods last night. Don't freak out about the gain
    Im not worried about it.. my stomach looks just as lean anyway, too.

    Hell, I could gain 15 pounds and still not weigh 170
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    In on this! Similar background to me and I like a lot of the foods you're eating. Nice to see others bulking with lots of fruits and veggies.
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    In on this! Similar background to me and I like a lot of the foods you're eating. Nice to see others bulking with lots of fruits and veggies.
    Thanks for stopping by!

    I do love my fruits and veggies. The only PROBLEM I have with them when bulking is they fill me up, so I usually opt for leafy ones like spinach and romaine lettuce instead of brocolli, etc like I would on a cut.

    Other than that I like to keep it as healthy as possible for sure.. and always at least 2 pieces of fruit and at least 5 servings of veggies a day.

    Today I might not lift weights because I underslept bigtime last tonight, but i'll probably do some cardio to keep the old cardiovascular system in check.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Thanks for stopping by!

    I do love my fruits and veggies. The only PROBLEM I have with them when bulking is they fill me up, so I usually opt for leafy ones like spinach and romaine lettuce instead of brocolli, etc like I would on a cut.

    Other than that I like to keep it as healthy as possible for sure.. and always at least 2 pieces of fruit and at least 5 servings of veggies a day.

    Today I might not lift weights because I underslept bigtime last tonight, but i'll probably do some cardio to keep the old cardiovascular system in check.
    That's awesome. Not too many people here worry about their micros and fiber much. I aim for about the same with fruits and veggies. I love them so it's hard to cute back, but I hear ya on them being even more filling while bulking! I probably need to eat less broccoli and more dense veggies.
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    Today I might not lift weights because I underslept bigtime last tonight, but i'll probably do some cardio to keep the old cardiovascular system in check.
    Dude, ya gonna bulk or not? Get the fukkin sleep, skip the fukkin cardio, lift some fukkin weights, eat some fukkin food. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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    Originally Posted by chickeneater View Post
    Dude, ya gonna bulk or not? Get the fukkin sleep, skip the fukkin cardio, lift some fukkin weights, eat some fukkin food. Lather, rinse, repeat.
    Now Now.

    I didn't do a LOT of it.. I like keeping healthy as well as try to get bigger. Nothing wrong with cardio while bulking so long as I make it up with food.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Now Now.

    I didn't do a LOT of it.. I like keeping healthy as well as try to get bigger. Nothing wrong with cardio while bulking so long as I make it up with food.
    I agree. I've actually started running more after statrting my bulk. Just make sure you up the cals. How often do you plan to weigh? I think he's worried based on se of tour previous posts

    Chicken-he can't lift every day, just call it an off day and move forward. I didn't lift yesterday and I ran and walked the dogs
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    Now Now.

    I didn't do a LOT of it.. I like keeping healthy as well as try to get bigger. Nothing wrong with cardio while bulking so long as I make it up with food.
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    I agree. I've actually started running more after statrting my bulk. Just make sure you up the cals. How often do you plan to weigh? I think he's worried based on se of tour previous posts

    Chicken-he can't lift every day, just call it an off day and move forward. I didn't lift yesterday and I ran and walked the dogs
    well, walking the dogs is fine, TDEE or whatever. But Martin Berkhart for example explains why cardio cuts into recovery time. What part of cardio do you think makes you healthier? OP, I'm starting to believe the hype about your ED. And yeah, you can't lift everyday. Not what I'm sayin. Perhaps cardio is fine once OP is bigger, but he'll never get bigger doing cardio on off days. And the premise that cardio will keep him healthy will drag him down. Adam, your'e tired so your'e gonna skip a workout? Thats good. Now your'e gonna stress your CNS and heart, and legs with cardio on your rest day? Wheres the "rest"?
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    I'll just leave this here: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...ass-gains.html

    Adam, if you enjoy cardio, do it, but while bulking it probably is best to keep it to a minimum. If it interferes with your recovery from lifting you may have to cut back or cut it out. It's all about priorities.
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    I agree. I've actually started running more after statrting my bulk. Just make sure you up the cals. How often do you plan to weigh? I think he's worried based on se of tour previous posts

    Chicken-he can't lift every day, just call it an off day and move forward. I didn't lift yesterday and I ran and walked the dogs
    I weigh in every wednesday morning.

    When I do cardio, I'm not doing sprints, etc, i'm doing walking at 3.6mph at a 4% incline for about 30 minutes.

    I think it's perfectly possible to be healthy AND bulk at the same time.. I know so many people who bulk and their endurance suffers as a result. I want to be big AND healthy.

    Originally Posted by chickeneater View Post
    well, walking the dogs is fine, TDEE or whatever. But Martin Berkhart for example explains why cardio cuts into recovery time. What part of cardio do you think makes you healthier? OP, I'm starting to believe the hype about your ED. And yeah, you can't lift everyday. Not what I'm sayin. Perhaps cardio is fine once OP is bigger, but he'll never get bigger doing cardio on off days. And the premise that cardio will keep him healthy will drag him down. Adam, your'e tired so your'e gonna skip a workout? Thats good. Now your'e gonna stress your CNS and heart, and legs with cardio on your rest day? Wheres the "rest"?
    This type of stress is good for you. Working the heart builds endurance, allows for more intense workouts, and generally makes me feel BETTER.

    I skipped a LIFTING day because I was feeling sick, and I usually only work out 4 days of the week anyway, so taking the monday off instead of the wednesday like I usually do is not an issue. I could burn 500 calories with cardio, but so long as I eat 500 more, it makes no difference.

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    I'll just leave this here: http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...ass-gains.html

    Adam, if you enjoy cardio, do it, but while bulking it probably is best to keep it to a minimum. If it interferes with your recovery from lifting you may have to cut back or cut it out. It's all about priorities.
    I actually find it HELPS with my recovery. Better circulation, better sleep, better heart function, it's all good stuff
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    TODAY is going to be a lifting day - Back and Calves!

    Haven't decided yet if it's going to be a lunch-time or after work session, but we'll see how busy I get during the day.

    Planning on filling in my preworkout snack with either a couple granola bars or possibly some kind of espresso drink or a chocolate milk from the coffee shop by my work instead of solid food and see how that does to stimulate my energy levels.

    At dinner i'll probably have the rest of the brown rice I cooked and maybe a little popcorn depending on how many cals I have left to get to my 3100 for the day.

    Tomorrow is weigh-in day, and I have a feeling i'm going to come in heavier, but most likely just from water and having more food in my gut.

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    Originally Posted by chickeneater View Post
    well, walking the dogs is fine, TDEE or whatever. But Martin Berkhart for example explains why cardio cuts into recovery time. What part of cardio do you think makes you healthier? OP, I'm starting to believe the hype about your ED. And yeah, you can't lift everyday. Not what I'm sayin. Perhaps cardio is fine once OP is bigger, but he'll never get bigger doing cardio on off days. And the premise that cardio will keep him healthy will drag him down. Adam, your'e tired so your'e gonna skip a workout? Thats good. Now your'e gonna stress your CNS and heart, and legs with cardio on your rest day? Wheres the "rest"?
    While I agree that he's displayed some ED/OCD tendencies I don't think this is one. There is nothing wrong with doing some cardio as long as your still in a surplus. Its not like he's marathon training. Nothing wrong with keeping the heart healthy
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    TODAY is going to be a lifting day - Back and Calves!

    Haven't decided yet if it's going to be a lunch-time or after work session, but we'll see how busy I get during the day.

    Planning on filling in my preworkout snack with either a couple granola bars or possibly some kind of espresso drink or a chocolate milk from the coffee shop by my work instead of solid food and see how that does to stimulate my energy levels.

    At dinner i'll probably have the rest of the brown rice I cooked and maybe a little popcorn depending on how many cals I have left to get to my 3100 for the day.

    Tomorrow is weigh-in day, and I have a feeling i'm going to come in heavier, but most likely just from water and having more food in my gut.

    Have a great day everyone.
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    While I agree that he's displayed some ED/OCD tendencies I don't think this is one. There is nothing wrong with doing some cardio as long as your still in a surplus. Its not like he's marathon training. Nothing wrong with keeping the heart healthy
    My thoughts exactly

    Plus, it increases my appetite for sure.

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    Workout plan for today (this could change when I get there):

    Back:

    Body-Weight Chins: 4 Sets
    Bent-Over Rows: 4 Sets
    Wide-Grip Lat Pulldowns: 3 Sets
    V-Grip Corner BB Rows: 4 Sets
    V-Grip Lat Pulldowns: 3 Working sets + 1 Burnout Set
    Hyperextensions + 25lb Weight: 3 Sets
    Rope-Grip Lat Extentions: 2-3 Sets

    Calves:

    Seated Calf Raises: 4 Sets
    Standing Calf Raise: 3 Sets

    That's the basic outline. I like the start with body-weight chins to gauge my strength increases.. last week I did 9-7-7-6, very strict form and no "kicking".

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    This will be today's diet:

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    Tomorrow being weigh-in day, I'm wondering what people would GUESS my weight will be. It's only been 1 week sinced I upped cals, but i bet I'm at 154.5, or about 1.3 pounds above last week. Any guesses? Reps for life if you can guess - it's all I got, come on!
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