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    VPX Bang missing an advertised ingredient?

    BANG®! is the World’s only Clinically Proven Water-Stable Creatine. Patent Pending!



    creatinol-o-phosphate; creatine monohydrate;


























    Bang! - First Water Stable BioLiquid™ Creatine.
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    VPX has been known to refer to COP as a form of creatine.
    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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    Originally Posted by in10city View Post
    VPX has been known to refer to COP as a form of creatine.
    I was completely unaware of their false advertising reguarding this issue. Thanks in10.
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    What is the last ingredient?
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    What is the last ingredient?
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    Originally Posted by MikeCellucor View Post
    yerba mate
    . Seriously? I love the unnecessary steps companies take to rename the simplest things...
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    Originally Posted by Illadelphia View Post
    . Seriously? I love the unnecessary steps companies take to rename the simplest things...
    They are notorious with their xanthines....the 1,3 and the xanthine in the name ( hey at least its the right chemical name and not made up, haha). 1,3,7 trimethylxanthine....it says methyl, now. Also, one time the owner cut in front of me and our CEO at the salad bar without saying Excuse me, so I now will go out of my way to correct, and or inform people of these things whenever possible. Just facts...no hatin'
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    VPX Pump7 doesn't list caffeine as an ingredient.
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    VPX accomplished what scientists have been trying to do for 47 years -- a water stable creatine beverage that does not convert to the creatinine under conditions of high heat and acidity
    Research in the VPX laboratories suggested that when subjected to high temperatures and acid conditions, creatine monohydrate converts rapidly to creatinine. BANG! on the other hand was the epitome of stability.
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    Wow...seems like a lot of their stuff is off.

    I watched this video and these guys explained how the VPX Shotgun label is incorrect too:

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    Originally Posted by MikeCellucor View Post
    Also, one time the owner cut in front of me and our CEO at the salad bar without saying Excuse me
    Breadstick beatdown.
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    Originally Posted by MikeCellucor View Post
    They are notorious with their xanthines....the 1,3 and the xanthine in the name ( hey at least its the right chemical name and not made up, haha). 1,3,7 trimethylxanthine....it says methyl, now. Also, one time the owner cut in front of me and our CEO at the salad bar without saying Excuse me, so I now will go out of my way to correct, and or inform people of these things whenever possible. Just facts...no hatin'
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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    Breadstick beatdown.
    You a curb fan?

    Or is this all huge coincidence lol?
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    Well, that explains the stability. Now I can sleep easy, knowing creatine is still not stable in liquid.
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    To me it looks like they're labeling phosphocreatine as a creatine, which I thought it was (minus a methyl group, plus a phosphate group.)My understanding of pharmacokinetics and chemistry in general is rudimentary at best.

    Please explain how it would behave differently in the body and not raise Cr levels?
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    Breadstick beatdown.
    Lettuce be relish, Mike was in line for the pisser at the local gentlemen's club when this happened.
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    Originally Posted by Brandenburg View Post
    To me it looks like they're labeling phosphocreatine as a creatine, which I thought it was (minus a methyl group, plus a phosphate group.)My understanding of pharmacokinetics and chemistry in general is rudimentary at best.

    Please explain how it would behave differently in the body and not raise Cr levels?
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    you can feel the stability going on in your tummy
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    What is the last ingredient?
    Originally Posted by MikeCellucor View Post
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    Originally Posted by Brandenburg View Post
    it looks like they're labeling phosphocreatine as a creatine
    No. They're claiming it's creatine however..... it's not.



    phosphocreatine;



    creatinol-o-phosphate;



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    Lettuce be relish
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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    No. They're claiming it's creatine however..... it's not.



    phosphocreatine;



    creatinol-o-phosphate;



    creatine monohydrate;
    My bad, I thought Creatinol-o-phosphate was this per this: http://blog.bodybuilding.com/deserus...-not-creatine/

    But now I understand, I think
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    Interesting thread. Seeing more and more people as of late confused on the whole "Is COP the same thing as creatine" topic.
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    Not digging the L-Theanine...
    It's anabrolic.
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    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    It's anabrolic.
    No, I mean seriously, it doesn't sit well with me. Makes me feel very uneasy.

    Maybe the "BANG" is suppose to act as the creatine?

    NO Hype "Hello, is this VPX Customer Serivce?

    VPX "Yes it is, how may I help you?"

    NO HYPE "I was looking over your ingredient profile for your product BANG, and I noticed there is no actual creatine in there?"

    VPX "BANG has creatine in it sir"

    NO HYPE "But COP is not creatine"

    VPX "BANG has creatine sir"

    NO HYPE "But they aren't the same compound"

    VPX "BANG"

    NO HYPE "Excuse me?"

    VPX "BANG BANG BANG"

    NO HYPE "I'm not following"

    VPX "BANG"
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    Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    No, I mean seriously, it doesn't sit well with me. Makes me feel very uneasy.

    Maybe the "BANG" is suppose to act as the creatine?

    NO Hype "Hello, is this VPX Customer Serivce?

    VPX "Yes it is, how may I help you?"

    NO HYPE "I was looking over your ingredient profile for your product BANG, and I noticed there is no actual creatine in there?"

    VPX "BANG has creatine in it sir"

    NO HYPE "But COP is not creatine"

    VPX "BANG has creatine sir"

    NO HYPE "But they aren't the same compound"

    VPX "BANG"

    NO HYPE "Excuse me?"

    VPX "BANG BANG BANG"

    NO HYPE "I'm not following"

    VPX "BANG"
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    Originally Posted by VPX_Sports View Post
    In chemical nomenclature it is 100% DeoxyCreatine-O-Phosphate
    Originally Posted by NO HYPE View Post
    They're claiming it's creatine however..... it's not.
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