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    So stoked. Being realistic, we're probably not going to look good in the win column, but dammit I haven't been this excited about the team in a loooong time. The energy of the team in the first preseason game was un-****ing-real. Someone made a good point on the Panthers forum. In the John Fox era, with less than a minute left before the half, Fox would undoubtedly just let the clock run out and take his chances in the second half. Rivera called a timeout, and it ended up leading to a field goal. F*CK PLAYING NOT TO LOSE.
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    Originally Posted by cor030 View Post
    So stoked. Being realistic, we're probably not going to look good in the win column, but dammit I haven't been this excited about the team in a loooong time. The energy of the team in the first preseason game was un-****ing-real. Someone made a good point on the Panthers forum. In the John Fox era, with less than a minute left before the half, Fox would undoubtedly just let the clock run out and take his chances in the second half. Rivera called a timeout, and it ended up leading to a field goal. F*CK PLAYING NOT TO LOSE.
    You're right. It's an uphill battle for wins, especially considering we play in probably the toughest division in the NFL with two legit contenders (ATL and NO) and a really on the rise Tampa team but regardless of wins and losses we can at least be competitive. I don't think a preseason game could have gone much better. The new coaching staff impressed with aggressive play calling, something we hadn't seen in years. Jimmy actually looked decent. Cam showed a lot more than I expected him to this early. Armanti has begun his redemption from last years special teams debacle. It was a really good start!

    It's clear that the Cam era will begin soon. I really hope that Jimmy can start the season and have several solid games, showing great strides and impressing some team enough to throw us a second or third round pick (probably a little to optimistic here) next offseason, in a way like Kolb did with Philly.

    Either way it was good to see the boys. I hope we get that 2nd corner locked down. We have the best linebacker corps in the entire NFL.
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    Originally Posted by sircharles032 View Post
    You're right. It's an uphill battle for wins, especially considering we play in probably the toughest division in the NFL with two legit contenders (ATL and NO) and a really on the rise Tampa team but regardless of wins and losses we can at least be competitive. I don't think a preseason game could have gone much better. The new coaching staff impressed with aggressive play calling, something we hadn't seen in years. Jimmy actually looked decent. Cam showed a lot more than I expected him to this early. Armanti has begun his redemption from last years special teams debacle. It was a really good start! It's clear that the Cam era will begin soon. I really hope that Jimmy can start the season and have several solid games, showing great strides and impressing some team enough to throw us a second or third round pick (probably a little to optimistic here) next offseason, in a way like Kolb did with Philly. Either way it was good to see the boys. I hope we get that 2nd corner locked down. We have the best linebacker corps in the entire NFL.
    I agree with all this. I also liked how Armanti was making people look stupid on punt return. I think we can win around 8 games, if not more. Serious. If our defense and special teams are as aggressive as they showed the other night, and Cam or Jimmy spreads the ball to Olsen, Smith, Lafell, etc.. And most importantly if our run game is back to 08 and 09 form, we can easily win at least 8. I see no reason why we couldn't. This team has the talent to bounce back quick. The biggest factor of all, will be the coaching, and for the better.
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    Originally Posted by Jacket60 View Post
    I agree with all this. I also liked how Armanti was making people look stupid on punt return. I think we can win around 8 games, if not more. Serious. If our defense and special teams are as aggressive as they showed the other night, and Cam or Jimmy spreads the ball to Olsen, Smith, Lafell, etc.. And most importantly if our run game is back to 08 and 09 form, we can easily win at least 8. I see no reason why we couldn't. This team has the talent to bounce back quick. The biggest factor of all, will be the coaching, and for the better.
    i love the optimism... The only reason I'm not so sure that we'll win that many games is because we get the combo of Tampa/Atlanta/New Orleans for 6 out of our 16 games. While Cam looked pretty decent his debut it's going to be another world when he gets into a real game and teams are throwing elaborate blitzes and coverages at him. Physically he's unreal and he can also has a great arm, more accurate out of the gate than I expected too, but I'm sure he's way behind on the mental game. His college system set him back a lot, the dude has basically never really had to even read coverages, let alone change protection schemes and audible/hot route, etc. If Jimmy can not turn the ball over he's definitely our best option right out of the gate, I'd think. But or division is brutal for such a young team. I'll hope for the best but not expect that. Either way we should be much much improved over last year, even if it doesn't always show up in Wins and Losses.

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    Originally Posted by sircharles032 View Post
    i love the optimism... The only reason I'm not so sure that we'll win that many games is because we get the combo of Tampa/Atlanta/New Orleans for 6 out of our 16 games. While Cam looked pretty decent his debut it's going to be another world when he gets into a real game and teams are throwing elaborate blitzes and coverages at him. Physically he's unreal and he can also has a great arm, more accurate out of the gate than I expected too, but I'm sure he's way behind on the mental game. His college system set him back a lot, the dude has basically never really had to even read coverages, let alone change protection schemes and audible/hot route, etc. If Jimmy can not turn the ball over he's definitely our best option right out of the gate, I'd think. But or division is brutal for such a young team. I'll hope for the best but not expect that. Either way we should be much much improved over last year, even if it doesn't always show up in Wins and Losses.
    Those 3 don't scare me that much. Sure they are good teams, but we will be a lot more competitive with them this year. Even last year the Saints only beat us by 2 the first time we played them. Also the second Saints game this year is the last regular season game, so if they make playoffs and we don't, their starters will most likely sit out that game and we'll get an easy win. Atlanta was pretty tough though but we were plagued with injuries after all. I think now that our LB core is back and healthy, we'll be able to contain Freeman a little better and get more pressure on him, because that guy single handedly beat us last year, running all over the place and extending plays. None of our guys could tackle him. Hopefully Beason and Davis shut him down this year. But yeah, the toughest games will be those 5 or 6, plus Packers, Colts and Texans. But with this new defense, you never know. We could hit some of these teams in the mouth and force some turnovers. Anything can happen. All teams are beatable.
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    srs question is srs. why don't we bring in a vet WR like Owens or Moss? We don't even necessarily need someone with speed, just a PROVEN pass catcher. Remember the year we had the superbowl run we had Muhsin (possession receiver) with Smith on the other side. I know we have Shockey and Olsen now, and that should improve the pass game tremendously, but lettuce be cereal. Lafell had maybe one great catch last season, Gettis is out for the year. We have a few young guys like Edwards competing for number two but like I said, a proven guy would be a perfect addition. Thoughts?
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    srs question is srs. why don't we bring in a vet WR like Owens or Moss? We don't even necessarily need someone with speed, just a PROVEN pass catcher. Remember the year we had the superbowl run we had Muhsin (possession receiver) with Smith on the other side. I know we have Shockey and Olsen now, and that should improve the pass game tremendously, but lettuce be cereal. Lafell had maybe one great catch last season, Gettis is out for the year. We have a few young guys like Edwards competing for number two but like I said, a proven guy would be a perfect addition. Thoughts?
    Couple of reasons:
    Guys like that don't always make your team better. Moss needs to be on a winner or he'll check out. Owens is hurt.

    They cost money
    It's hard to judge WR talent when Jimmy clauson is throwing the ball
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    Couple of reasons:
    Guys like that don't always make your team better. Moss needs to be on a winner or he'll check out. Owens is hurt.

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    True. But I don't expect them to come in and put up 1,000 yard seasons. Just a distraction to take some of the spotlight and double teams off Smith. Like I said, I know the TE's are going to help with that but we need a number 2 receiver and I've yet to see that out of Lafell & Edwards. And yeah I know they'd want to play for a winning team, but do you think with the buzz around Cam (unproven as of now) could possibly change that? A 1 yr deal perhaps? I mean, I'm sure a big part of the reason Smith stayed was to play with Cam right?
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    True. But I don't expect them to come in and put up 1,000 yard seasons. Just a distraction to take some of the spotlight and double teams off Smith. Like I said, I know the TE's are going to help with that but we need a number 2 receiver and I've yet to see that out of Lafell & Edwards. And yeah I know they'd want to play for a winning team, but do you think with the buzz around Cam (unproven as of now) could possibly change that? A 1 yr deal perhaps? I mean, I'm sure a big part of the reason Smith stayed was to play with Cam right?
    Well moss turned down 1 year deals and I wouldn't want to give him more than a year. I know most panther fans wanted malcom Floyd and yeah I'd love a good vet. I would have liked plax for cheap. Would not want Braylon for anything.

    TO has the injury thing. Wasn't much else to be had (Steve smith v2 is injured, too).
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    Do not want Randy or TO. If we're not competing for a playoff spot there is no reason to roll the dice with either of those guys to come in and take playing time from a developing younger player. I don't think Randy would want to come anyway, he's holding out for a contender. The receivers will figure it out The running game is what's going to take pressure off of Smitty, not a mediocre aged out veteran receiver.
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    Greg Olsen will take the pressure off Smith, dude is a beast in the passing game. Anyone else notice that Olsen was lining up at*receiver*during the first preseason game?
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    Do not want Randy or TO. If we're not competing for a playoff spot there is no reason to roll the dice with either of those guys to come in and take playing time from a developing younger player. I don't think Randy would want to come anyway, he's holding out for a contender. The receivers will figure it out The running game is what's going to take pressure off of Smitty, not a mediocre aged out veteran receiver.
    Have to agree here. People forget our passing game wasn't exactly stellar in 2008 when we went 12-4. It was certainly better than what we've seen in recent years, but Jake going 3,100 yards with 15TD/12INT is average at best. The entire team was carried by ****ing beast o-line play(which we could very well have if Otah stays healthy) and a ground game that couldn't be stopped(30 touchdowns, something I had forgotten about).
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    Greg Olsen will take the pressure off Smith, dude is a beast in the passing game. Anyone else notice that Olsen was lining up at*receiver*during the first preseason game?
    Yeah Chicago never utilized him to his full potential, hes huge and super athletic. I would expect to see him in the slot more often and shockey set up at tight end. Also hope the use Smith in the slot, hed be trouble if a linebacker or safety had to guard him
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    First post since banned camp. I'm not a Panthers fan but after watching that preseason game I think Cam has potential to be a good quarterback. He had some great throws just needs to work on reading different coverages. He could turn out to be something special.
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    Defense could be nasty this year once all the starters are playing. Smash n Dash should be back to 08/09 form. Smitty should be rejuvenated. Armanti could be a pro bowler at PR...G-Reg gonna tear up the middle. we might shock some people
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    one reason I prefer Cam over Jimmy is Cam seems more prone to take chances down field. I know Favre'ing it and launching it up for the receiver is not good, but with Smitty, he wins more jumpballs than not. Jimmy would just drop back, see Smitty is covered, roll out, throw ball out of bounds.
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    one reason I prefer Cam over Jimmy is Cam seems more prone to take chances down field. I know Favre'ing it and launching it up for the receiver is not good, but with Smitty, he wins more jumpballs than not. Jimmy would just drop back, see Smitty is covered, roll out, throw ball out of bounds.
    From everything I've heard, if Cam does well in this start, he will be the week 1 starter.
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    Originally Posted by chlaxman View Post
    From everything I've heard, if Cam does well in this start, he will be the week 1 starter.
    I'm still torn on this one. Yes, I'd prefer to see Cam over Jimmy, but it's so early in Cam's mental development and I'm not so sure that's a great idea. Not only that, but it seems ideal for Jimmy to get a little more exposure (and hopefully play better than he did last year...) so that he becomes a trade asset. Lettuce be reality, with the addition of Cam, Jimmy's days are numbered anyway. Maybe 3 or 4 games that show significant improvement so that maybe some other desperate team wants him next off season, similar to the Kolb situation (though I know he'd never net even close to that value). Just a thought.
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