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    They have this routine on their site do you guys think it is a good routine to follow if not why?

    Monday-Chest, Triceps, Shoulders
    Military Press (Overhead Shoulder Press) 2 sets 8-12 reps
    Bench Press 2 sets 8-12 reps
    Incline Bench Press 2 sets 8-12 reps
    Dips 2-3 sets 8-12 reps (add resistance if needed)

    Wednesday- Quads, Hamstrings, Calves
    Squats 2-3 sets 10-20 reps
    Leg Press 2-3 sets 10-20 reps
    Glute Ham Raise 2 sets 10-15 reps
    Standing Calf Raises 2-3 sets 25 reps

    Friday-Back & Biceps
    Pull-ups or Lat Pull-downs 2sets 8-12 reps
    V-Bar Pull-downs 2 sets 8-12 reps
    EZ-Bar Curls 2 sets 8-12 reps
    Hammer Curls 2 sets 8-12 reps
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    Originally Posted by manmi213 View Post
    They talk about meal timing a lot like it's a super important factor which is a myth.
    Like I said, that's the only thing they're really wrong in. One thing... could be more since I haven't watched many of their videos though.

    Still, solid advice imo
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    Originally Posted by CamdenJereelio View Post
    I'm just tired of you anti-broscience types with your radical science!
    Thank you Im glad you have learned apprentice.
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    Originally Posted by elite2292 View Post
    They have this routine on their site do you guys think it is a good routine to follow if not why?

    Monday-Chest, Triceps, Shoulders
    Military Press (Overhead Shoulder Press) 2 sets 8-12 reps
    Bench Press 2 sets 8-12 reps
    Incline Bench Press 2 sets 8-12 reps
    Dips 2-3 sets 8-12 reps (add resistance if needed)

    Wednesday- Quads, Hamstrings, Calves
    Squats 2-3 sets 10-20 reps
    Leg Press 2-3 sets 10-20 reps
    Glute Ham Raise 2 sets 10-15 reps
    Standing Calf Raises 2-3 sets 25 reps

    Friday-Back & Biceps
    Pull-ups or Lat Pull-downs 2sets 8-12 reps
    V-Bar Pull-downs 2 sets 8-12 reps
    EZ-Bar Curls 2 sets 8-12 reps
    Hammer Curls 2 sets 8-12 reps
    I've seen like 10 posts from you regarding which routine to do.


    Just pick one.. routines don't build muscle.. diet and sleep does.
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    Originally Posted by Marleau12 View Post
    I've watched every single video on their channel. They do use broscience, but they have damn good genetics and some nice physiques. Check this out.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33Ocz6fxHPU

    He's also cocky as hell, but he's a big guy.
    They don't have good genetics I seen there before and after. Plus they admitted there ectomorphs and where always skinny guys until they started working out seriously 3 years ago.
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    Originally Posted by manmi213 View Post
    They talk about meal timing a lot like it's a super important factor which is a myth.
    Not super important but it has more benfits as in maximizing muscle gains.
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    im subscribed to them
    they have a lot of good videos but some of them are just pure broscience
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    Love these guys. Obviously what they do for them works considering they are 36. But everyone is different
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    Originally Posted by peekfitness View Post
    They kno what works for them and its a good routine. Just make sure you go to failure every working set.
    No. Training to muscular failure is certainly not necessary.

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    These guys are full of broscience
    This.

    Originally Posted by peekfitness View Post
    Not super important but it has more benfits as in maximizing muscle gains.
    This is not true. Please provide evidence and stop talking out of your ass.
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    Broscience or not, these guys are funny as ****!
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    Obviously works for them, but I loled like hell at it. Seems like it'd work though
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    Originally Posted by peanut-butter View Post
    No. Training to muscular failure is certainly not necessary.



    This.



    This is not true. Please provide evidence and stop talking out of your ass.
    Not neccessary but is for maximum muscle gains! The evidence is tht ur body can only digest so much protein every three hours depending on how much muscle u have. So dont try and fail to correct me cause ur name is peanutbutter and your fat and weak.
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    Originally Posted by peekfitness View Post
    The evidence is tht ur body can only digest so much protein every three hours depending on how much muscle u have.
    Please provide a peer reviewed citation for this statement.
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    Originally Posted by CamdenJereelio View Post
    Please provide a peer reviewed citation for this statement.
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/35...to-add-muscle/ Go down to the last paragraph, it says when you eat.
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    Originally Posted by peekfitness View Post
    Not neccessary but is for maximum muscle gains! The evidence is tht ur body can only digest so much protein every three hours depending on how much muscle u have. So dont try and fail to correct me cause ur name is peanutbutter and your fat and weak.
    Ohh really, is it? Then show me some fuking evidence! That is complete bullsh|t.

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    http://www.livestrong.com/article/35...to-add-muscle/ Go down to the last paragraph, it says when you eat.
    Uhhh, not sure if srs. Strong evidence is strong.
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    I'm just tired of you anti-broscience types with your radical science!
    I agree with this. I'm not an advocate of broscience, but I don't see the harm in suggesting it to people. While nutrient timing and things like that are "broscience", can it hurt to try and trigger an insulin response with simple carbs after a workout, and then slam down some whey with them? I think that only sounds like a good idea, even if it is not scientifically backed. I've seen a lot more people who use and suggest broscience with the results to back them up than anti broscience people with the results to back up what they say.
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    Originally Posted by LoneWolf720 View Post
    I agree with this. I'm not an advocate of broscience, but I don't see the harm in suggesting it to people. While nutrient timing and things like that are "broscience", can it hurt to try and trigger an insulin response with simple carbs after a workout, and then slam down some whey with them? I think that only sounds like a good idea, even if it is not scientifically backed. I've seen a lot more people who use and suggest broscience with the results to back them up than anti broscience people with the results to back up what they say.
    No one ever said that you can't do it or there is anything wrong with it, but it won't make a difference. If it's your personal preference, then go for it. However don't get sucked into the idea that it's necessary.
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    Originally Posted by LoneWolf720 View Post
    I agree with this. I'm not an advocate of broscience, but I don't see the harm in suggesting it to people. While nutrient timing and things like that are "broscience", can it hurt to try and trigger an insulin response with simple carbs after a workout, and then slam down some whey with them? I think that only sounds like a good idea, even if it is not scientifically backed. I've seen a lot more people who use and suggest broscience with the results to back them up than anti broscience people with the results to back up what they say.
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    Originally Posted by peanut-butter View Post
    Ohh really, is it? Then show me some fuking evidence! That is complete bullsh|t.



    Uhhh, not sure if srs. Strong evidence is strong.
    Thts just one article there is about a ton more if you actually do some research.
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    They aren't the most intellectual, but 95percent of what they say is correct... They know wtf they are talking about and if I had to point any noob to bodybuilding videos it would be there's...

    I lOve the push, leg, pull gym 3 days week plan. It works great for me.

    I believe they should talk more in depth about food.

    I HATE there views on cardio, I feel that both kinds of cardio can help vascularity and trim fat substantially.

    I love there views on supplement also because 99 percent of those don't work, still they don't recommend vitamIns which doesn't make any sense to me.

    I may be missing a few things but in a nutshell they aren't bro scientist they speak the truth and are certified trainers
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    Also dead lifts are back snaps if you put an unreasonable amount of weight on the barbell
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    Also dead lifts are back snaps if you put an unreasonable amount of weight on the barbell
    Mmmm ... ok and what is an unreasonable amount of weight?...
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    Dead: 220kg (484lb)
    Total: 545kg (1199lb)

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    Originally Posted by RainingBlood View Post
    Does it work for him? Yes. Is it at an optimal rate? NO.
    If everyone knew their optimal rate we would have millions of programs tailored to each specific person.
    There can't be a routine that works for every single person at an optimal rate as each person reacts slightly differently to stimulus.
    Yes programs work but you cannot apply that each person ranging from A-Z on that program with gain X number of lbs lbm in Y amount of time.
    So does Madcow work for me? Yes it does. At an optimal rate? Probably not, but I cba to try and make one up myself.
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    I love these guys and just look at them, what they do clearly works for them.
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    Lol, never seen a single video of these guys that wasn't filled with broscience

    brb protein shake right after workout is necessary
    brb meal frequency is important
    brb protein is the only important macro to count
    brb gotta take creatine right before you workout and with juice or its wasted
    brb there's no way to structure anything more than a 3 day split and have your muscles recover
    brb deadlifts are dangerous, if you want to work your hamstrings much better to squat or leg press
    brb do any row that isn't braced or seated and you gonna snap some sh*t up
    brb such thing as clean foods and dirty foods

    ....yeah, okay
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    The twins are sometimes entertaining, I'll give them that. But I would never rely on their advice. If you want someone who actually knows the science behind working out, watch http://www.youtube.com/user/LiftingForLife
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    Originally Posted by TheHappyPeanut View Post
    The twins are sometimes entertaining, I'll give them that. But I would never rely on their advice. If you want someone who actually knows the science behind working out, watch http://www.youtube.com/user/LiftingForLife
    Reps on recharge. Ethan is a smart dude, all new lifters would do good to watch all the major videos on his channel.
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    Although I don't agree with everything they say, they are pretty spot on about most stuff they talk about... such as wasting money on too many bogus supplements e.t.c.. they are close to my age as well, so sometimes I tune in to them to see what they have to say, I like how they say you have to find what works for you! which is very true...we are all different.
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