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    Looking for a good pre-workout that is legal for D1 football

    So yeah, I am currently taking c4 which has 1,3-d which is banned by the NCAA, so I am going to go buy a new one today. Which is the best that is still legal?
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    Not that i dont think Muscle Prime would be good just listing some other options

    Scivation Novem, White Flood, Hemavol Powder (non-stim can easily be stacked with anything), Fierce looks good have yet to try it, i have read nothing but good things about vengeance, and another good stacking supp would be SNS agmatine
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    Try making your own like I do. Its so much better then a premade preWO IMO.

    Get some Beta Alanine, Citrulline Mallate, ALCAR, caffeine, and even some tyrosine if youd like.

    Also look into Agmatine
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    I would highly recommend Novem by Scivation or Ergopump by ErgoGenix.





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    white flood is pretty good stuff, im pretty sensitive to most preworkouts and for some reason it didnt bother me much at all. they are great for sending out samples hit up one of the reps.
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    Originally Posted by stockmaster View Post

    Scivation Novem,
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    I would highly recommend Novem by Scivation




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    ^^ The people have spoken:

    Novem is 1,3 free and is fine for any athletic participation, just let the reviews do the talking here are a few below:


    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136884003

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=136864603

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    ive heard white flood has components banned by NCAA. and I will definitely look into novem. reps for all those who helped
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    Originally Posted by embulldogs99 View Post
    ive heard white flood has components banned by NCAA. and I will definitely look into novem. reps for all those who helped
    White Flood has no NCAA banned substances. Just caffeine which is an NCAA restricted substance. White Flood does not have enough caffeine to cause a problem.

    I saw someone mention Hemavol in here. Hemavol contains Glycerol Monostearate (GMS) which is banned by the NCAA, so Hemavol is a no go.

    Also, someone mentioned ErgoPump. I think they reformulated it, but the old ErgoPump has Geranium Oil in it which is banned by the NCAA, so be careful with that one.
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    Originally Posted by Spencelynn View Post
    White Flood has no NCAA banned substances. Just caffeine which is an NCAA restricted substance. White Flood does not have enough caffeine to cause a problem.

    I saw someone mention Hemavol in here. Hemavol contains Glycerol Monostearate (GMS) which is banned by the NCAA, so Hemavol is a no go.



    Also, someone mentioned ErgoPump. I think they reformulated it, but the old ErgoPump has Geranium Oil in it which is banned by the NCAA, so be careful with that one.

    sorry that was me...was unaware...would you happen to know why? curious
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    sorry that was me...was unaware...would you happen to know why? curious
    GMS is classified as a diuretic by the NCAA. Diuretics are banned by the NCAA.

    http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/...ned+drugs+list

    The NCAA is very vague, GMS doesn't directly appear on the list of diuretics that are banned but the NCAA has also banned "Any substance that is chemically related to the class of banned drugs is also banned!"

    If you look at the label of Omega Sports Flashover (which contains GMS) it says on the label that GMS is banned by the NCAA.
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    Originally Posted by Spencelynn View Post
    GMS is classified as a diuretic by the NCAA. Diuretics are banned by the NCAA.

    http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/...ned+drugs+list

    The NCAA is very vague, GMS doesn't directly appear on the list of diuretics that are banned but the NCAA has also banned "Any substance that is chemically related to the class of banned drugs is also banned!"

    If you look at the label of Omega Sports Flashover (which contains GMS) it says on the label that GMS is banned by the NCAA.





    Thank you for the info i thought it would have something to do with the water in the body.
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    Definitely run it by your athletic training staff first before you go purchasing anything.

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    Definitely run it by your athletic training staff first before you go purchasing anything.
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