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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    No I don't remember that but good call.

    Waatsgood what is your reasoning for that?
    just because its only been one week. I like to give it at least 2 to be certain its too little/too much
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    Originally Posted by waatsgood View Post
    just because its only been one week. I like to give it at least 2 to be certain its too little/too much
    I see but explain how I could lose weight in a surplus? Seems obvious it's not enough
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    I see but explain how I could lose weight in a surplus? Seems obvious it's not enough
    Possibly this*http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat...he-ltdfle.html
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    its been a week at 3000. why would i wait if i am bulking and losing weight?
    3000 sounds very low for a bulk especially for someone of your height

    on my last bulk when i was lighter and very sedentary I bulked at 3500ish
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    Originally Posted by Ubernit View Post
    3000 sounds very low for a bulk especially for someone of your height

    on my last bulk when i was lighter and very sedentary I bulked at 3500ish
    now at 4000ish
    I thought my maint was around 3100. I got down to 2200 and wasnt losing. Now I think I wa just plateaued. I'm gonna up it to 3200-3300 this week and see what happens
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    No I don't remember that but good call.

    Waatsgood what is your reasoning for that?
    Don't remember the exact convo, but it involved Julia too. Think you mentioned that you've been dedicated to cutting and that you've progressively lost weight overtime. You stated that cutting felt like a forever long process, but I knew that you'd be bulking soon! With amount of weight you've shredded off, you should be proud. Now, take pride in putting on the muscle mass bro.
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    Originally Posted by franko man View Post
    Don't remember the exact convo, but it involved Julia too. Think you mentioned that you've been dedicated to cutting and that you've progressively lost weight overtime. You stated that cutting felt like a forever long process, but I knew that you'd be bulking soon! With amount of weight you've shredded off, you should be proud. Now, take pride in putting on the muscle mass bro.
    Thanks bro. That's the plan. She's encouraged me to bulk for awhile now
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    Good back day yesterday. Increased reps on deeds. My run last night sucked but my legs were sore as crap. On sat I kept squat weight the same but really focused on going lower. Felt it in my ass. No homo. My run was much better this am just need this damn knee to get better. Givin Hunters chocolate omlette a second try.
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    So far hitting 3200-33300 last 3 days. Feel a bit bloated and have some stomach issues, probabaly due to fiber from more fruits and veggies. Still feel like i look leaner. Off to do legs
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    so i figured out ive basically doubled my fiber intake the past week. how long did it take you guys to get adjusted to the added fiber from bulking?
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    so i figured out ive basically doubled my fiber intake the past week. how long did it take you guys to get adjusted to the added fiber from bulking?
    I don't know. I don't think I respond differently unless it was drastic differences in fiber intake. I have not reached that point yet.
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    I don't know. I don't think I respond differently unless it was drastic differences in fiber intake. I have not reached that point yet.
    nothing major, just really gassy, irregular, etc
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    nothing major, just really gassy, irregular, etc
    I'm really critical of my dietary fiber intake, but I have noticed that at higher levels, I am pretty gassy.The stench is terrible. However, I think the bathroom breaks are worth it.
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    Originally Posted by peteyboy1015 View Post
    I'm really critical of my dietary fiber intake, but I have noticed that at higher levels, I am pretty gassy.The stench is terrible. However, I think the bathroom breaks are worth it.
    Ha ha I hear ya. I don't think my body is used to it. One day go repeatedly one daycant go.

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    Super excited about tonight's eating. Babysitting the niece and taking her to Moe's. Them got room to have a double bowl of chocolate cheerios and dark chocolate bar. Carb up for tomorrow
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    Super excited about tonight's eating. Babysitting the niece and taking her to Moe's. Them got room to have a double bowl of chocolate cheerios and dark chocolate bar. Carb up for tomorrow
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    Love Moe's. What do you usually get from there?
    I'm actually not a huge fan. But really not a huge Mexican fan in general. One of those things I eat and enjoy but never crave. Gonna go with steak Joey tonight
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    Race went really well. Finished under the time I wanted. I budgeted about 500 flex cals to eat after but I went over. If I eat the remainder of the foods I planned I'll be around 3600 when I've been shooting for 3200-3300. Should I adjust or just say fuk it
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    Race went really well. Finished under the time I wanted. I budgeted about 500 flex cals to eat after but I went over. If I eat the remainder of the foods I planned I'll be around 3600 when I've been shooting for 3200-3300. Should I adjust or just say fuk it
    Depends on how hungry you are. Congrats on the race!
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    Depends on how hungry you are. Congrats on the race!
    Thanks. It was fun. Probably gonna have to adjust anyway. Gotta go to a stupid bday party we just found out about
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    Today was an interesting day for me. Had to make several adjustments to the plan. I typically like to plan out my meals a day ahead.

    Had a banana and cliff bar pre race
    Steak Fritata with homefries and WW toast after
    A few chicken wings at a bday party
    Half a stuff crust pizza for dinner
    About 3450 cals which is only slightly higher than shooting for. Pro was only 185 which is low for me but over 1 g per lb of lbm.

    Gonna weigh tomorrow and see where I'm at
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    So I weighed this am and I'm back to 194.6 where I started 2 weeks ago. Not sure if I should assume its a natural fluctuation and increase cals or if I actually gained weight and stay the same. I was slightly higher in cals yesterday and carbs the past couple. I'm leaning towards staying at 3200-3300 and see next week. Thoughts?
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    So I weighed this am and I'm back to 194.6 where I started 2 weeks ago. Not sure if I should assume its a natural fluctuation and increase cals or if I actually gained weight and stay the same. I was slightly higher in cals yesterday and carbs the past couple. I'm leaning towards staying at 3200-3300 and see next week. Thoughts?
    I think that's the best option right now.

    Also, when you count calories, do you utilize macro calculations or calories on the box? For example, sometimes the calories on the box would say something like 140 calories, but macros are 1g F / 30g CHO (9g of which are insoluble fiber) / 13g P, which really should be 181 calories. Do you track it as 140 calories, like the box states, or would you track it as 181 calories, using macros?
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    I think that's the best option right now.

    Also, when you count calories, do you utilize macro calculations or calories on the box? For example, sometimes the calories on the box would say something like 140 calories, but macros are 1g F / 30g CHO (9g of which are insoluble fiber) / 13g P, which really should be 181 calories. Do you track it as 140 calories, like the box states, or would you track it as 181 calories, using macros?
    thanks for the input. I'm pretty sure thats what im going to do for this week and adjust next week if necessary. Trying to be patient which I am not good at. I have always used the box information
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    thanks for the input. I'm pretty sure thats what im going to do for this week and adjust next week if necessary. Trying to be patient which I am not good at. I have always used the box information
    I used to use box information as well. However, back when I dieted on higher fats, the calories, based on the box information, would be lower than my intended caloric intake. Now, that I've switched to higher carbs, mainly as an experiment, my calories, based on the box information, is now much higher than my intended caloric intake (probably due to dietary fiber intake as well). I've noticed that this could have been the reason why I did not gain weight as readily on higher fats vs. higher carbs because I probably wasn't really tracking my calories correctly by using box information.
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    Intereting. I will consider this. Honestly doubt I'll switch as that just seems like too much added work. My activity has been a bit higher as I've been running more. Gonna keep it the same this week and see
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    Yep give it one more week.

    This happened to me, except I dropped even lower than when I started my bulk. It was about two weeks in and I dropped from 159 to 153 for two days. Then I shot back up to 159. Then up to 163. Then down to 158. Soooo, one more week, then increase cals if you need to is my advice.
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    Yep give it one more week.

    This happened to me, except I dropped even lower than when I started my bulk. It was about two weeks in and I dropped from 159 to 153 for two days. Then I shot back up to 159. Then up to 163. Then down to 158. Soooo, one more week, then increase cals if you need to is my advice.
    Thanks. Yeah same here. Dropped 1.5 now back even. That's what I'll do. You've been a huge help in all this
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