Actually to get to the nearest star, Alpha C, it would take 5 years going the speed of light.
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I don't know, therefore...Aliens.
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08-01-2011, 10:26 AM #31
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08-01-2011, 10:29 AM #32
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08-01-2011, 10:29 AM #33
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08-01-2011, 10:30 AM #34
If they are millions and millions of years ahead of us or even a 100,00 years ahead they will have technology beyond your wildest dreams. To try and question how they get here from the point of a human is pointless. If their species have survived that long they obviously have a totally different level of conciousness/thought which has caused them not to wipe each other out unlike us.
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08-01-2011, 10:33 AM #36
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08-01-2011, 10:34 AM #37
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08-01-2011, 10:34 AM #38
Alien Life - Of course. Everything we know that lives requires water, from bacteria to dinosaurs to humans. As long as a planet is just the right distance from its star, it can sustain water and therefore life as we know it.
Intelligent Life - as in conscious and civilized.....No. Discovering computation begins the exponential advancement of technological evolution to skyrocket (30 steps linear is 30, 30 steps exponentially is just over 1,000,000,000.). That shows the power of the rapid advancement of technology. Why havent we seen it advancing so fast.....because computation was only discovered approx. 60 years ago and is reaching the knee of the curve, in which it will begin advancing quicker and quicker. The Drake Equation says there should be thousands of ETs in our galaxy, we see 0. The fermi paradox states this, that due to the Drake Equation (which is legit) there should be ETs we see, but there arent. This is explained by the notion that we are the first species in the Universe, or closer perhaps, to discover computation. Remember, the Milky Way is 10-12B yrs old, and we as a species have been evolving for billions of years from our common ancestor. So it takes a VERY long time to get to where we are today.
In 50 yrs or less, we will reach a technological singularity. A point of no return, in which we no longer make the rules. AI and us will be merged, and life as we know it will be changed forever. We are living in one of the most incredible times of humans existence or evolution. We are soon to transcend biology altogether, and theres nothing we can do to stop it, politicians, bankers, scientists or anyone else. THIS IS THE FATE OF ANY SPECIES.
Whats more mind blowing....this...or the fact most people dont even know about it........
http://trace.wisc.edu/tech-overview/....thumbnail.jpg
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08-01-2011, 10:37 AM #39
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08-01-2011, 10:43 AM #41
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But, yes, do believe they exist. I also believe we will never ever have contact with them. Nothing can travel faster than light. It would take us 4 years to reach just the nearest solar system to us traveling at the speed of light.
To put this into perspective, space travel to find other life is nothing but a dream. We will never travel anywhere close to the speed of light which is 186,282 miles/SECOND. The distance around the Earth is just a mere 7,926 miles. The G-Force of traveling at the speed of light would kill us alone.
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08-01-2011, 10:45 AM #42
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08-01-2011, 10:49 AM #43
Can we travel at the speed of light now...no. Can a civilization thousands of times more powerful....possibly.
Also, the speed of light has been altered in a few instances:
-at the beginning of the big bang it was significantly faster and has slowed down
-in the LHC, certain quantum particles were made to go faster than the speed of light, making them time travellers
We cannot harness this power now, but due to the exponential advancement of technological evolution, we as a species will be able to likely do so eventually. Especially considering a technological singularity - point of no return will occur within the next 50 yrs.
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08-01-2011, 10:50 AM #44
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Are you retarded? Einstein mother****er, do you know him? Please go back to high school physics.
Okay, lettuce be fairy tales and assume we can travel at the speed of light. There is another problem. It will take several several hundreds of years just to leave the milky way, do you think humans will start living for hundreds of years now?Last edited by BTTB3; 08-01-2011 at 10:55 AM.
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08-01-2011, 10:55 AM #45
i heard a physicist say (who are ya gonna believe, i know) that the chances of life falling into place and being created is like a tornado ripping through a junk yard and perfectly assembling a boeing 747. this was always stuck in my mind. Think about it, u need dna, energy organs whatever, to perfectly align within a cell membrane, or something along these lines, right? the chances of this happening are astronomical.
I pick things up and put them down
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08-01-2011, 10:57 AM #46
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08-01-2011, 10:58 AM #47
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08-01-2011, 10:58 AM #48
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08-01-2011, 11:01 AM #49
To travel at the speed of light, you need an infinitely increasing amount of energy.
But so far everyone is assuming ET life is more capable...that depends on time of intelligent origin and steady technological advancement, for all wr know, we could be the most technologically advanced species in the universe.
This is simply of intelligent life. There could be millions, billions of simple, animal like, unintelligent life forms.
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08-01-2011, 11:01 AM #50
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08-01-2011, 11:11 AM #55
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08-01-2011, 11:11 AM #56
repost from myself in another thread: The question of "aliens" isn't so much if they exist, but mostly WHEN and WHERE. The universe in 4 dimensions is extremely large, 14 billion years, trillions upon trillions of solar systems that span in 3 dimensions makes it so highly unlikely that another race evolved enough to bend the rules of space and time as we know them. The universal constant, for one, as well as many others like cryofusion or different forms of travel and time distortion for the user. The chances of other life forms being out in the universe are almost infinity because we live in an infinitely large universe, however the chance that we will encounter these life forms for as long as sentient civilizations are around are extremely small.
Aliens, or at least extra-terrestrial life forms do exist elsewhere in the universe, they are possibly multi-celled organisms and they have a chance of being more advanced than the life on earth. However I doubt that they have any interest or capability of finding and reaching earth. I'll give the videos a watch later, but you have to understand that the moment that sentient beings from a different galaxy encounter earth is going to be a truly changing event. They will most likely either try and colonize our planet, research us, or become friends and integrate with us (highly unlikely, what would their means be?), or they will possibly leave us alone. I find it hard to believe that advanced technology that can find a way to travel millions of light years would not be able to navigate around in our atmosphere without crashing. This would be analogous to a calculator being able to computer 59! but not able to do 3x2x1. Just my 2c though.
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08-01-2011, 11:12 AM #57
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08-01-2011, 11:23 AM #58[52 books in 52 weeks Crew]
"Let your life lightly dance on the edges of Time like dew on the tip of a leaf." - Rabindranath Tagore
“We enjoy and even thrill to godlike possibilities we see in ourselves in such peak moments. And yet we simultaneously shiver with weakness, awe, and fear before these very same possibilities.”
― Abraham Maslow
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08-01-2011, 11:33 AM #59
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