Just wondering how many people believe in extra terrestrials (IE, are we the ONLY intelligent life form in the Universe?)
Common Arguments
1) Why haven't we been contacted, or why aren't they more common?
-Well...why haven't WE traveled light years through space yet?
-We use radio waves for contact. Maybe they don't?
-They could be looking for us as we are them, or maybe they think they are alone just as most humans do.
2) Most planets aren't hospitable for life.
-Maybe not HUMAN life. Are we really so arrogant to believe EVERY living organism MUST be carbon based, oxygen breathing life forms?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/wil...ut-oxygen.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_791094.html
3) No historical accounts of UFOs have been recorded.
-...lol wut.
-Many religious texts, ancient societies and the like all reference objects/beings that may or may not have "descended from the heavens" or closely resemble what we may think of today as technology - rather than supernatural.
4) It's just not possible...
-Our solar system consists of 1-star, and 9 planets (**** you, Pluto is a planet to me).
-There are roughly 2,500 visible stars (to the naked eye) from Planet Earth at any given time.
-Assuming that each star has even 1 planet in orbit around it, that's already over 2,500 planets (just based on what our eyes can see).
-There are an estimated actual 5,800-8000 stars visible in total, even if only 1/4 of those stars had ONE planet in orbit, that would mean no less than 1450 planets exist.
Arbitrary numbers for demonstration:
-Predictions are that in JUST THE MILKY WAY ALONE, there are close to 200-400 billion stars. If we again, say that a measly 1/4 of those stars had AT LEAST, ONE planet in orbit, that would give us: 50 Billion planets (assuming lowest number) in the Milky Way. If you take an astronomically small % of those planets...say 1/100 of those planets, with the possibility of supporting life as on Earth, you get: 500 Million planets that could support life as on Earth. If you take 1/1000 of that number, just saying that life MAY exist on those planets, you get: 500,000 planets could potentially have life. If you take an even SMALLLLLEEERRR portion of that (1/10000), that life not only survived, but evolved into a non-micro organism, you get: 50 planets that could have evolved life forms. And 1/50 of those planets may have a semi-intelligent life form on it.
So...are the chances really that small, that in our galaxy alone there is only ONE planet (Earth) that could support life? I don't think so.
In this picture, we see no less than 20 galaxies (that I felt like counting). So assuming only 1/4 of those galaxies contains ONE planet that can support EARTH like life...that's 5 planets that could potentially contain intelligent life.
I just can't see how people could be so ignorant/arrogant that they could not even entertain the notion that we are not alone in this universe...
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I don't know, therefore...Aliens.
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08-01-2011, 09:54 AM #1
Do you believe in Aliens/Extra Terrestrials? [srs / poll]
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Theres a fuk ton of planets. I cant believe that earth could possibly be the only one with life.
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08-01-2011, 10:04 AM #12
True. But I will use the arrogance of humans as 'proof' any day of the week, any week of the year. Our entire view of science is bias towards humanity and Earth based life. I'm not a genius by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm not so dumb to think that Carbon based/oxygen breathing organisms are the only possibility for life.
BTW - never saw that video or heard of the Drake formula. Interdasting.
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08-01-2011, 10:06 AM #13
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08-01-2011, 10:12 AM #16
If we lack the technology, why couldn't they? Perhaps our technologies are equal, but lack compatibility. They could communicate through odd spectrums of light or sound or some other form. We couldn't communicate with them, as they couldn't with us.
They could be in the equivalent of our industrial age, or dark ages (with their respective technology). We could be the MOST intelligent life forms, but we could also not be. Every civilization has periods of advancement based on their inception into intelligent society. Doubt we all line up together.
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08-01-2011, 10:13 AM #19
all religions, all messiahs (including jesus), all books (bible, koran, etc), all temples (church), are nothing more than human creations, human systems created
by humans in order to try to get close to the creator of the universe, but they fail miserably because humans are imperfect beings.
Human beings would never be able to understand let alone get close to the creator, is beyond human understanding.
The universe could have not created itself, let's be real, the Universe must have been "created". Randomness...would mean that the universe is ruled by chance events, and there are no orderly laws governing the universe. In fact, we know this premise to be untrue...if the universe were ruled by unpredictable events, there would be no sustainable structure to it. On the contrary, the universe not only maintains form and structure, it also changes in precise and orderly ways, is way to perfect, something outside the universe must have created it, that something is what we call god.
The creator, create the universe and everything that is inside it, including humans and other alien races, if you wann know something about "god", dont read the bible, dont go church, go buy a telescope and look up the sky, the universe, god created that and is the only real proof of his existence
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08-01-2011, 10:16 AM #24
the speed of light is = 186,000 per second
it would take us 8 minutes to get the sun at this speed
it would takes us 5 days to get to alpha centauris
it would take us 1000 years to even see the arms of the milky way lulz
how do aliens that live in other galaxies travel ?
in order to travel faster than the speed of light, you have to modify gravity, if you modify gravity, then you can escape the laws of the universe and travel faster than the speed of light
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08-01-2011, 10:20 AM #26
Why do they have to go the speed of light? Maybe they use planes like us? Maybe they use ion propulsion and have mastered cryo freezing, or live 1000x longer than humans, so they can endure space travel for long periods of time? Maybe they don't need to eat, maybe they are living solar panels or the like that absorb energy from particles or photons around them?
You can't think in terms of "We can't do it, so no one else can." More importantly, you can't think that other civilizations are as advanced as us (or moreso). Even on our Earth you still have aboriginals, tribes and third world countries. That's on our planet alone...
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