any NCAA banned substances in my stack?

[smsst14]

White flood, purple wraath, dark matter, cellucor NO3 black chrome...

I was looking up the NCAA banned substances and they don't feature a full list only examples of substances in categories, thanks for any feedback

[blindsideflank]

isnt caffeine banned by ncaa. id be wary of the stimulants in a lot of supplements but im sure it leaves your body quickly too.
all i know is that ground beef isnt banned

[Spencelynn]

White flood, purple wraath, dark matter, cellucor NO3 black chrome...

I was looking up the NCAA banned substances and they don't feature a full list only examples of substances in categories, thanks for any feedback

Drop the Dark Matter. It contains Glycerol Monostearate (GMS) which is banned by the NCAA. It is classified as a diuretic. I have no idea how much GMS is in Dark Matter, or how much GMS it takes to fail an NCAA drug test, but I wouldn't risk it.

isnt caffeine banned by ncaa. id be wary of the stimulants in a lot of supplements but im sure it leaves your body quickly too.
all i know is that ground beef isnt banned

Caffeine is restricted, not banned. I read somewhere that it would take about 6 cups of coffee in an hour to have enough caffeine in your body to fail an NCAA drug test. White Flood doesn't have near that much caffeine. It is fine.

[smsst14]

thanks a lot, any suggestions for a post workout that isn't NCAA banned?

[Spencelynn]

thanks a lot, any suggestions for a post workout that isn't NCAA banned?

Micronized Creatine Monohydrate

and

Protein Powder

[ven33]

Micronized Creatine Monohydrate

and

Protein Powder

This.

OP you also should know the caffiene (found in pre workout supps) in certain levels (the same levels caused by pre workout supps) is banned by the NCAA.

[Nolan78]

if your an NCAA athlete just ask your trainer
they may try to discourage you from taking something, but they do not have the final say in what you do, they should just simply tell you what in each substance is banned

[Spencelynn]

This.

OP you also should know the caffiene (found in pre workout supps) in certain levels (the same levels caused by pre workout supps) is banned by the NCAA.

Caffeine is restricted, not banned. He will most likely be fine taking White Flood. One serving of White Flood does not have enough caffeine in it to cause a failed drug test.

[Jhawk Fitness]

if your an NCAA athlete just ask your trainer
they may try to discourage you from taking something, but they do not have the final say in what you do, they should just simply tell you what in each substance is banned

To be honest most strength coaches wouldn't know the full list of banned substances. The NCAA doesn't send out email/mail notices, they simply post it on a website and expect coaches and athletes to seek out the information (which most do not do).

[ven33]

To be honest most strength coaches wouldn't know the full list of banned substances. The NCAA doesn't send out email/mail notices, they simply post it on a website and expect coaches and athletes to seek out the information (which most do not do).

Strength coach does not equal trainer.

[Jhawk Fitness]

Strength coach does not equal trainer.

To the average joe it does. Even if he did mean the schools ATC my point still stands.

[ven33]

To the average joe it does. Even if he did mean the schools ATC my point still stands.

The ATC's job is to know the legality, hence why they are the ones that GIVE the NCAA compliance paperwork pertaining to supplement intake to you.

[embulldogs99]

White flood, purple wraath, dark matter, cellucor NO3 black chrome...

I was looking up the NCAA banned substances and they don't feature a full list only examples of substances in categories, thanks for any feedback

ive heard pre-workouts are banned too. that would knock out your no3 black and white flood i believe

[ven33]

ive heard pre-workouts are banned too. that would knock out your no3 black and white flood i believe

They dont ban pre workout supps....they ban contents.

Use the labels and determine for yourself if what you are taking is illegal.

[Nolan78]

Strength coach does not equal trainer.

this
all you have to do is bring the trainers the label where it shows everything in it
and a lot of the time they will tell you it has a banned substance, but not enough to fail a drug test, I found this out with a few sups

[embulldogs99]

They dont ban pre workout supps....they ban contents.

Use the labels and determine for yourself if what you are taking is illegal.

agreed. sorry i mispoke. a friend of mine told me there is something in pre-workouts that is banned by NCAA but i didnt take the time to look into it myself.

[ven33]

Problem is most ATC's don't take the time to read. So they tell you to avoid supps even though there is nothing wrong with them. They just go by the philosophy that taking nothing is better than taking anything.

So it is typically best to do the research on your own.

The NCAA will not let you play if you fail a test and blame your ATC for telling you it was ok. They will still not let you play and you will have wished you checked it on your own.

[Spencelynn]

List of common supplements/ingredients that can cause you to fail a drug test for the NCAA:
I will update this list with new supps when I find them.

Glycerol Monostearate (GMS)
-classified as a diuretic by the NCAA
-found in the following supplements: Dark Matter, GylcerGrow, Hemorush, will update


1,3-Dimethylamylamine
-very common in preworkout drinks, and fat burners
-found in the following: Jack3d, Presurge Unleashed, Cryoshock, OxyELITE Pro, Old Version of 1MR, C4 Extreme, M5 Extreme, ACG3, Hemorush, will update with more
-also goes by the names: Geranium, Geranium Extract, Geranium Oil Extract, DMAA, 1,3-D, Methylhexanenamine


Prohormones


Test Boosters


Steroids


HGH


Caffeine
-Restricted, NOT BANNED
-A single serving of most preworkouts do not contain enough caffeine to cause you to fail a drug test
-Caffeine concentrations at or above 15mcg/ml in urine will cause a failed NCAA drug test


Helpful NCAA links:
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/...ned+drugs+list
http://drugfreesportrec.blogspot.com/

Mods should sticky this.
I will update with more information from time to time.

[ven33]

This is very interesting. NCAA changed their stance on caffeine since I graduated college (3 years ago). Looks like they got their heads on straight about preworkout supps.

[embulldogs99]

List of common supplements/ingredients...

u really should make a thread to get stickied. but to help u and everyone I am just going to start naming some common pre-workouts that may or may not be added to the list.

no3 black
no xplode
cellucor c4
pump-bol
m5
acg3

those are all i have taken.

everyone should pitch in to make this a big list. important for all college athletes

[Spencelynn]

u really should make a thread to get stickied. but to help u and everyone I am just going to start naming some common pre-workouts that may or may not be added to the list.

no3 black
no xplode
cellucor c4
pump-bol
m5
acg3

those are all i have taken.

everyone should pitch in to make this a big list. important for all college athletes

You should pitch in with info that is actually correct.

NO3 Black Chrome is fine
NO Xplode is fine
C4 Extreme will be added to the list
Pump-Bol is fine
M5 will be added to the list
ACG3 never even heard of this before but will be added to the list


Please just don't go throwing out any supplement. If you have a question about a particular supplement ask and I will look it up.

[embulldogs99]

You should pitch in with info that is actually correct.

NO3 Black Chrome is fine
NO Xplode is fine
C4 Extreme will be added to the list
Pump-Bol is fine
M5 will be added to the list
ACG3 never even heard of this before but will be added to the list


Please just don't go throwing out any supplement. If you have a question about a particular supplement ask and I will look it up.

fair enough. if i come across supps that people might use I will look them up and put them up here

[embulldogs99]

just interested. what about c4 extreme makes it illegal?

[Spencelynn]

fair enough. if i come across supps that people might use I will look them up and put them up here

just interested. what about c4 extreme makes it illegal?

I mean, if you have a question about whether a supp is good to go or not that's fine, ask away; but just don't throw out a list of supps and possibly give someone the wrong idea about it. Know what I'm sayin?


C4 Extreme has 1,3-D in it.

[embulldogs99]

I mean, if you have a question about whether a supp is good to go or not that's fine, ask away; but just don't throw out a list of supps and possibly give someone the wrong idea about it. Know what I'm sayin?


C4 Extreme has 1,3-D in it.

ya i get it. i didnt know if u just couldnt think of more or have more in mind and were taking your time

[Jhawk Fitness]

The ATC's job is to know the legality, hence why they are the ones that GIVE the NCAA compliance paperwork pertaining to supplement intake to you.

Apparently not everyone gets the memo; http://www.mlive.com/lakers/index.ss...ng_banned.html

Additionally, having spent several years coaching at both and pro and college level that it was always left to us (the strength staff) to handle supplement counseling.

[ven33]

Apparently not everyone gets the memo; http://www.mlive.com/lakers/index.ss...ng_banned.html

Additionally, having spent several years coaching at both and pro and college level that it was always left to us (the strength staff) to handle supplement counseling.

What's funny is that article bashes the NCAA for not telling everyone that they have updated their regulations.

The funny part about it is that no one took the time to research jack3d and look at the ingredients. If they had they would have caught this early.

I do not pity anyone who fails the NCAA's tests.

[smsst14]

Yet again thanks, looks like im returning my DM to bb.com in exchange for something that won't + me on a test. I was already aware of the 1,3 dimeth being banned but to be honest i never liked 1,3's effects anyways. As strict as the NCAA is you think that it would set a clearer list of banned supplements, or in a perfect world a full list of banned ingredients. I don't mind looking to see if the individual ingredients in my supps are banned, it just becomes more complicated when i don't have any information on whether a majority of the ingredients in supps i take are banned or not...

[freed59]

Hey i was wondering about these three supplements that i am taking. Betancourt BCAA Chewies, and Syntha-6 protein powder, 1 a day pro edge multivitamins. Thanks

[Spencelynn]

Hey i was wondering about these three supplements that i am taking. Betancourt BCAA Chewies, and Syntha-6 protein powder, 1 a day pro edge multivitamins. Thanks

All good bro.