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    911 Case Closed: Aerial Photo Shows Towers Were Exploded Outward, Did Not "Collapse"

    One of the first things Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who coordinated the destruction of the steel evidence at Ground Zero, did after the attack was prohibit almost all photography at the site. Police and FBI agents were ordered to confiscate cameras on the spot, although inevitably, as can be expected at such a massive crime scene, there were simply too many people swarming what was now viewed as history for such a stricture to be successfully enforced.

    One key piece of photographic evidence that did survive the government's attempts to keep the public in the dark about what happened that day was an aerial photo taken on Sept. 23, 2001, long before major clean-up operations had begun. Rescue workers and firefighters were still primarily concerned with searching for human remains and even long-shot survivors. The clash between police and firefighters which took place as Giuliani hastened to the "scoop and dump" phase of the operation was Nov. 2.

    The aerial photo shows what no other photo could in such clear and convincing detail: that the towers did not collapse down through the line of gravity, but were blown outwards in all directions for two or three times as far as the towers were wide, leaving a carpet of cleanly-cut steel beams and perimeter wall sections across the entire WTC complex. No force imaginable in a downward gravitational collapse can explain the lateral ejection of steel sections with the weight of bulldozers for up to two football fields, at clocked speeds of up to 70 MPH.

    As can be seen in the aerial photo the steel beam pieces are mostly straight as arrows, un-deformed by heat, and cut neatly at the ends. The steel beams do not wind up in a mound, as one would expect, with the center of the tower's bases as the high point, but rather scattered fairly uniformly across the entire World Trade Center complex, which consisted of seven buildings. Perimeter sections, which consisted of 15-inch wide beam assemblies covered with aluminum cladding, can be seen lying thickly across WTC 6, nearly two football fields away. Each one of these pieces weighed up to 20 or more tons.

    The official NIST report explained dust ejections (what are obviously demolition squibs) by saying "compressed air" forced the dust out of breaking windows. But no amount of compressed air can lift 20-ton steel assemblies and hurl them laterally for 400 feet, at 50 to 70 MPH.

    Hence the reason for Giuliani's ban on photography at Ground Zero. No amount of instruction in physics or fire temperature calculations would be as dangerous to the official "collapse" theory as plain visual evidence of demolition, and people simply believing what their eyes are telling them. Steel falls down. Not out. And certainly not for these kinds of distances.

    The below video narrated by David Chandler gives one of the best views of cut steel beam shooting upwards and outwards, not falling down through the line of gravity. Keeping in mind the massive scale of the towers (nearly a football field wide,) it must be remembered that what seem like tiny sticks are 10 foot long pieces of two-foot wide steel beam and larger, of which even the smallest would weigh nearly one ton.

    CLICK VIDEO: North Tower demolition narrated by Architects and Engineers 911's David Chandler



    Circled pieces of steel beam and steel perimeter wall are approximately ten feet long



    This rarely seen photo shows the width of the debris field and lateral ejections of steel and pulverized concrete debris, which can be explained only by high explosives.

    Photo: debris field width




    The below map can be clicked on circled areas to show details of 5, 10, and 20-ton pieces of neatly cut steel beams and steel perimeter wall.

    click below image to go to full-size clickable map, click on circles



    From lower right-hand corner of above aerial map, leaning against outer edge of WTC 4




    From roof of WTC 4, massive perimeter wall sections, see 60-foot flatbed trucks at bottom for idea of scale.


    Perimeter wall sections under construction


    In addition to the patently impossible official explanation of the "collapse" of Building 7 (not hit by a plane), there are hundreds of other physical impossibilities in the official story. An attempted summary of the best evidence is here:

    http://busharchives.org/

    This post merely attempts to assemble some of the lesser-viewed (and heard) evidence in one place, such as the explosions heard throughout the morning (probably charges weakening key strong points in the structures) such as the following (which disinformation artists and doubters attempt to dismiss as "boilers" or "fuel tanks." You decide.)

    VIDEO: Explosions like this heard all morning


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    CONTINUED FROM ABOVE

    Finally, here is an opportunity to hear what a known demolition sequence of explosions sounds like compared to the towers as they were destroyed.

    VIDEOS: Sound of explosive charges, known demolition and South Tower, side-by-side



    VIDEO: Firefighter John Schroeder, who was inside North Tower, testifies to explosions inside, says building was "disintegrating" from core.




    Line of explosive flashes can be seen in North Tower at onset of demolition. Below flashes can be seen at :16 seconds into this video:



    Please read: "911: Venturing a Theory of the Crime"

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    911 Shock and Awe: Towers were exploded outwards

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    nobody even reads that sh*t you crazy piece of wacko.
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    Originally Posted by otisthebat View Post
    nobody even reads that sh*t you crazy piece of wacko.
    In case you haven't noticed there are numerous 911 threads here, and they are some of the highest hit threads in misc. Just cuz you're a dumb-a$$ doesn't mean everyone is. Go read a book. Harry Potter is pretty good.

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    So no one noticed anyone carrying in all these explosives in and setting them up for weeks prior to the blast? No security guards saw anything? Everyone was just too busy in every single one of the buildings to even take a second look at all the guys continuously bringing in explosives and wiring and whatever else is needed for the entire month of August and first week and a half of Sept?

    You can show all the photos with circles on them you want and show all the pictures of steel you want. Blowing the buildings up from the inside is REALLY hard to believe. Goes against common sense.
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    You still haven't read the MIT paper explaining the collapse, have you?
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    "Clocked speeds of 70 mph"

    Lol

    Brb, sitting outside wtc at 8 am with radar gun just in case steel goes flying.

    Positively awful article.

    "Steel beams the size of dozers were ejected 200 yards and sliced through buildings!!!" (Fast forward a few paragraphs) No plane hit wtc 7, so how did it fall if nothing hit it? How can anyone so blatantly argue both sides of the fence? How can anyone be retarded enough to believe it?
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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    But no amount of compressed air can lift 20-ton steel assemblies and hurl them laterally for 400 feet, at 50 to 70 MPH.
    Yes it can.
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    But no amount of compressed air can lift 20-ton steel assemblies and hurl them laterally for 400 feet, at 50 to 70 MPH.
    haha. apparently you have never worked with compressed air.

    do you have any idea what 4000 psi can do? think about what psi means. that's 4000 pounds of force on every square inch of surface that the force is acting on.
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    Originally Posted by mrusa85 View Post
    So no one noticed anyone carrying in all these explosives in and setting them up for weeks prior to the blast? No security guards saw anything? Everyone was just too busy in every single one of the buildings to even take a second look at all the guys continuously bringing in explosives and wiring and whatever else is needed for the entire month of August and first week and a half of Sept?

    You can show all the photos with circles on them you want and show all the pictures of steel you want. Blowing the buildings up from the inside is REALLY hard to believe. Goes against common sense.
    This.

    People that think explosives were in place are people that have never dealt with explosives of that kind or seen a building actually brought down with explosives.

    These are the things that people don't think about when they talk this kind of silly stuff.

    1. Logistics. To do what people are saying, explosives would need to be on the support beams of the building. On the twin towers, the majority of support beams were in the center of the building, any schematic will show you that. So that means that in a building where thousands of people work every day, the people placing explosives would need to go into the building with all their equipment and explosives, remove walls back to the beams, place explosives and then replace walls so that the people that have been working there every single day for years, wouldn't notice the repairs or the initial work which would take months.

    2. Detonation. Someone would have to detonate the explosives. It's probably safe to say that the person doing that isn't going to want to be in the building, so that means they will need to be detonated remotely, that means radio freq. detonation. So that means that 100's if not 1000's of lbs of explosives will need to be put in place, and radio dets put in place for the future detonation, and HOPE that one of the millions of cellphones, shortwave radios, cb's or the laundry list of other sources of radio freqs in the area wouldn't accidentally set off those explosives prematurely and then someone would have to explain why the buildings spontaneously detonated.

    3. Impact. IF there was an inside job to 'blow' the buildings after planes hit to make it look like the planes did it, it has to look legit right? There is no doubt the city, if not the world, would be watching and videoing. How would they know where the planes were to hit? If they hit at say the 30th floor, how would they explain all the floors above it detonating as well. When i was watching the towers fall, the the section above where the planes hit came down as one unit and the weight of that section pushed its way through the floors below.

    If you have ever seen a building brought down with explosives within its own footprint as the towers did, it is almost an art form and they do things that leave nothing to chance and have to do so to assure that the building will fall within its own footprint. One of those things they do is totally gut the building of all infrastructure except the the bones of the building. It takes weeks to prep a building of decent size to fall within its own footprint on purpose. They do this because if you leave those things in place, like walls, studs and in some cases wiring, while those things in small amounts probably won't alter the path of the building as it falls, if they aren't removed, when they start stacking on top of each other in the fall, their strength builds and there is a very good chance that that increased strength of the cumulative matter will change the path of the fall not allow it to fall as planned.

    It just isn't/wasn't technically feasible.
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    If it was demo'ed it was the worst demo in the history of bulding demos. Search youtube for controlled demolotions, and compare to this hypothesis.


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    Originally Posted by kickblake View Post
    If it was demo'ed it was the worst demo in the history of bulding demos. Search youtube for controlled demolotions, and compare to this hypothesis.


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    Do you really think if "they" wanted to bring down the buildings with explosives they would set it up like a controlled perfect demolition? Not they would use just enough to bring them down.

    If it was well thought out they would fall while looking as little like a controlled demo as possible while still having a very high probability of falling.

    I'm not taking sides I'm just arguing against the shortsightedness of this specific quote.
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    None of these herp derp things that are getting posted can explain why each building failed exactly at the points of impact.
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    Originally Posted by flairon View Post
    This.

    People that think explosives were in place are people that have never dealt with explosives of that kind or seen a building actually brought down with explosives.

    These are the things that people don't think about when they talk this kind of silly stuff.

    1. Logistics. To do what people are saying, explosives would need to be on the support beams of the building. On the twin towers, the majority of support beams were in the center of the building, any schematic will show you that. So that means that in a building where thousands of people work every day, the people placing explosives would need to go into the building with all their equipment and explosives, remove walls back to the beams, place explosives and then replace walls so that the people that have been working there every single day for years, wouldn't notice the repairs or the initial work which would take months.
    The centre of the building is elevators and serviceways. All the office space fits around the centre. The main support columns were adjacent to the elevator shafts. In the months prior to 9/11 the elevators were upgraded. Guards were placed on the elevators being worked on. So i'm sure the office workers noticed the upgrades going on, but i doubt they could see what was going on behind the guarded door.

    2) The answer is wireless. Its not hard to ensure that the signal only comes from one source.

    3) The building exploded outwards and turned almost completely into dust. 100,000 tons of structural steel gone. This is not the work of gravity. When buildings fail due to fire (this has never happened before or after 911) they will almost certainly topple over to one side with the building still being recognisable.

    Of course it was technically possible. It happened didn't it?
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    Originally Posted by superfunk View Post
    The centre of the building is elevators and serviceways. All the office space fits around the centre. The main support columns were adjacent to the elevator shafts. In the months prior to 9/11 the elevators were upgraded. Guards were placed on the elevators being worked on. So i'm sure the office workers noticed the upgrades going on, but i doubt they could see what was going on behind the guarded door.

    2) The answer is wireless. Its not hard to ensure that the signal only comes from one source.

    3) The building exploded outwards and turned almost completely into dust. 100,000 tons of structural steel gone. This is not the work of gravity. When buildings fail due to fire (this has never happened before or after 911) they will almost certainly topple over to one side with the building still being recognisable.

    Of course it was technically possible. It happened didn't it?
    Only in the minds of people that have no idea what they are talking about or read crap sites like prisonplanet or above top secret.

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    Originally Posted by mrusa85 View Post
    So no one noticed anyone carrying in all these explosives in and setting them up for weeks prior to the blast? No security guards saw anything? Everyone was just too busy in every single one of the buildings to even take a second look at all the guys continuously bringing in explosives and wiring and whatever else is needed for the entire month of August and first week and a half of Sept?

    You can show all the photos with circles on them you want and show all the pictures of steel you want. Blowing the buildings up from the inside is REALLY hard to believe. Goes against common sense.
    This does not refute the physics which make the OCT impossible. Moreover, NYC is not Omaha, and they probably don't have big stenciled letters on boxes saying "explosives." Crews and trucks are moving around the clock, the "city that never sleeps" remember? More:In another unusual coincidence, a subsidiary of Pentagon Comptroller and suspected conspirator Dov Zakheim's SPC, Tridata Corporation, conducted the official investigation into the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which would have given the company access to the blueprints and security lay-out of the towers, and intimate knowledge of the towers' construction. Zakheim is considered by some 911 researchers to be the possible mastermind behind 911.

    Here is the TrIdata page from the official SPC website, note the caption at the top, "a small company with a wide wingspan...Dr. Dov Zakheim."







    Following is the cover page for the official 1993 Trade Center bombing investigation performed by Zakheim's Tridata.



    SPC's intimate knowledge of the towers along with Bush brother Marvin Bush's company Securacom's holding of the security contract for the World Trade Center means there is no doubt that associates of Project for a New American Century and people close to them (Jeb Bush was also a member) had sufficient knowledge of and access to the World Trade Center to allow entry by any number of workmen, unchallenged, at any time night or day. Lower Manhattan is vibrant and bustling around the clock, with trucks, deliveries, and work crews coming and going at all hours. You are in NY, not some sleepy town.
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    Pour some powder on your open palm. Then slap it with your other hand. Pay attention to the direction that it scatters.


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    Originally Posted by 8nd View Post
    "Clocked speeds of 70 mph"

    Lol

    Brb, sitting outside wtc at 8 am with radar gun just in case steel goes flying.

    Positively awful article.

    "Steel beams the size of dozers were ejected 200 yards and sliced through buildings!!!" (Fast forward a few paragraphs) No plane hit wtc 7, so how did it fall if nothing hit it? How can anyone so blatantly argue both sides of the fence? How can anyone be retarded enough to believe it?
    You don't need a radar gun, fool. You need known distances, a time-line ( a real-time video,) and a tiny bit of math. Distance/time = velocity, remember? GD some people are so effin stupid.

    the rest of your comment incoherent.


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    Originally Posted by voodoo101 View Post
    You don't need a radar gun, fool. You need known distances, a time-line ( a real-time video,) and a tiny bit of math. Distance/time = velocity, remember? GD some people are so effin stupid.

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    distance over time, wut is dis?
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    biggest mystery to me is how the other building collapsed when it was never hit by a plane?

    to those saying the government would never attack itself... well its happened before. called false flag attacks. checkout operation northwoods. i'm not a conspiracy theorist but i would be stupid if i believed everything the government told me all the time.
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    Originally Posted by superfunk View Post
    The centre of the building is elevators and serviceways. All the office space fits around the centre. The main support columns were adjacent to the elevator shafts. In the months prior to 9/11 the elevators were upgraded. Guards were placed on the elevators being worked on. So i'm sure the office workers noticed the upgrades going on, but i doubt they could see what was going on behind the guarded door.

    2) The answer is wireless. Its not hard to ensure that the signal only comes from one source.

    3) The building exploded outwards and turned almost completely into dust. 100,000 tons of structural steel gone. This is not the work of gravity. When buildings fail due to fire (this has never happened before or after 911) they will almost certainly topple over to one side with the building still being recognisable.

    Of course it was technically possible. It happened didn't it?
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    CONTINUED FROM ABOVE

    Finally, here is an opportunity to hear what a known demolition sequence of explosions sounds like compared to the towers as they were destroyed.

    VIDEOS: Sound of explosive charges, known demolition and South Tower, side-by-side



    VIDEO: Firefighter John Schroeder, who was inside North Tower, testifies to explosions inside, says building was "disintegrating" from core.




    Line of explosive flashes can be seen in North Tower at onset of demolition. Below flashes can be seen at :16 seconds into this video:



    Please read: "911: Venturing a Theory of the Crime"

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    911 Shock and Awe: Towers were exploded outwards

    ******** for "Towers were exploded outward" website




    Contact your congressman: Investigate 911 or you are committing treason.
    So people say well the towers supposedly exploded outwards, therefore it was a government conspiracy. Just because you might perceive certain problems with a common explanation for something doesn't make it a government conspiracy. It could have just as likely been some other terrorist group trying to pin Al Qaeda, or a different government altogether, or why stop there, it could be ****ing space aliens. But the evidence is very clear that Al Qaeda was behind this. Do you really think the officials that we elected to represent us wish that upon us? I'm inclined to think that I can justifiably dismiss the notion that they would want that upon us.
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    Originally Posted by AGangsta View Post
    biggest mystery to me is how the other building collapsed when it was never hit by a plane?
    Because it was hit by a 110 story building.
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    Theres is no chance that a consipracy on this level could be succesfully pulled off. No way in hell. Thousands of people would have to be in on the secret. Every single last detail would have to be covered up from the most intense Government, Media and Public coverage.

    What is more likely is that crazy muslims fly airplanes into our towers b/c they're crazy people.

    Ok OP, using your logic, what happend with the Pentagon flight and the other flight that crashed in Pennsylvania? Why wouldn't this "secret organization" just stick to the World Trade Center demolition? Why add in two whole other conspiracys??
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    Originally Posted by 209vaughn View Post
    Theres is no chance that a consipracy on this level could be succesfully pulled off. No way in hell. Thousands of people would have to be in on the secret.
    not really. it only takes key people in key positions
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    Amy Winehouse was murdered by DEA agents-scared she would reveal that Obama blew ******* up Katy Perry & Stevie Nicks asses via a straw-at a party hosted by one of the Rothschild's, at Bohemian Grove-where Mexican immigrants were sacrified in ritual murders & the whole thing was filmed for an elite billionaires club to view at the White House.

    The Oslo lunatic was programmed by CIA agents to carry out the attacks, to distract from US domestic issues-such as the defecit & Kenyan Obama's phony birth certificate.
    False flags.
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