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    Originally Posted by FAN0FdaSport View Post
    Bart you need to organize your diet. It looks like your frame got bigger while you were getting older. Did you get taller as well?

    5-6 meals a day with a shake or two inbetween, and try to get a good idea of how many calories your eating. I like to use this formula for a calorie estimation: bodyweightX18. From there adjust your calories until your gaining about a pound every week. The meals are mandatory.

    I know it sucks to try eating clean, but try this every day: make sure you get in a gram of quality protein per pound, 1.5 grams for clean carbs and after that you can eat whatever you want to meet calorie needs during the day.
    5-6 meals a day is a myth

    just eat whatever it takes to get your macros for that day

    if its 4 meals or 3 or 2 or 6 or 8

    just eat
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    Originally Posted by PaynESTER View Post
    5-6 meals a day is a myth

    just eat whatever it takes to get your macros for that day

    if its 4 meals or 3 or 2 or 6 or 8

    just eat
    haha I wouldn't call it a myth, but your right overall. Its just a decent number. But in JUST 3 or even 2 meals? You must be a monster eater lol.
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    Originally Posted by FAN0FdaSport View Post
    haha I wouldn't call it a myth, but your right overall. Its just a decent number. But in JUST 3 or even 2 meals? You must be a monster eater lol.
    no, im not saying i do it
    i still eat quite a lot of meals

    but

    1 meal a day 4000 calories 300 grams of protein

    is the same as eating

    6 meals a day
    4000 calories and 300 grams of protein
    on my way to bulking to 250(3 year goal)
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    bodybuilder/strongman...makes me wanna tighten up the waist and maybe do some direct ab work for once..edit:classic...looking incredible my man. as well as everyone else. great job dudes
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    Good to see lots of good looking fellow IFBB posters.

    This is a great thread. I hope to have some progress pics up soon too :-).
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    Can I post my weaka$$ training vids in here?
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    Can I post my weaka$$ training vids in here?
    Yessir, all progress from IFBB section posters is welcome. Post em up!
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    Great idea, OP.

    Cliffs:
    - Picked up a plastic + cement weight set in the early 80's (Samir was Mr. O!)

    - Won my first and only teen comp a few years later at the age of 16

    - Training got derailed by IRL stuff: schools, jobs, wives, homes, family, surgery, and other bullsh!t reasons to not lift

    - Got fat as hell (40 lbs overweight) over the years, but promised myself to get my old ass back on stage one day...

    - Returned to training after a 13-year layoff and won my first overall 25 years after that very first teen contest.





    The start of the comeback and 15 months later during contest prep




    Similar poses from the start of the comeback to the 2011 off-season




    Age 27 and age 42 comparison




    Fat ass 2009 vs 2010 off-season vs start of 2011 prep




    2010 Contest Season




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    I've been training for almost 2 years now (although the first year, as is the case with most people, was a complete waste of time) starting with an anorexic 125lbs "base" and currently sitting at a pretty comfortable BF for "offseason" @167lbs. I'm planning on competing a year and a half from now, if I put enough mass in the next 12 months to feel ready, that is.











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    mharrislove great transformation

    What do you think about the whole muscle memory thing? How hard was it for you and your body? Was age a factor?
    Grainy hardcore religious slabs of thick dense muscle. So grainy that it hurts your eyes
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    mharrislove great transformation
    Thanks, man...

    What do you think about the whole muscle memory thing?
    Muscle memory = the real deal. Losing the body fat was tough, but doable for most people with a sound diet and decent will power.

    But the body recomp was roughly -40 lbs or so of body fat, and +15 to 19 lbs of LBM (I lost some LBM after the prep), which borders on the insane - especially for an > 40 guy with an eye on natty comps. So, I had noob like gains during my first year back, but my LBM gains slowed down to a much more pedestrian 3-4 lbs during the 2nd year of the comeback.

    How hard was it for you and your body? Was age a factor?
    It was tougher than I thought it would be. I mean, I started out gradually, but once I completed the transition from body weight exercise --> machines --> free weights I tried to kill the weights like I did in my 20s. Big mistake. After a few false starts and dumb injuries, I started to use periodization to cycle workload and I went from 3 consecutive days of training to 2 days on and 1 day off.

    Connective tissues don't adapt to resistance training at the same rate as muscle tissue at any age, but this issue is amplified as we age. So, paying more attention to recovery was the perhaps the most important modification I made due to age.

    On the upside, I require far fewer calories to gain size these days in comparison to my younger years when I struggled to put on mass despite eating everything in sight. So, it's not all bad news!
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    here you go kyle!

    ignore the strong faces (they are strong) but yeah, i lost a bit of detail in legs from the lighting unfortunately. still, progress







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    Originally Posted by mharrislove View Post
    Great idea, OP.

    Cliffs:
    - Picked up a plastic + cement weight set in the early 80's (Samir was Mr. O!)

    - Won my first and only teen comp a few years later at the age of 16

    - Training got derailed by IRL stuff: schools, jobs, wives, homes, family, surgery, and other bullsh!t reasons to not lift

    - Got fat as hell (40 lbs overweight) over the years, but promised myself to get my old ass back on stage one day...

    - Returned to training after a 13-year layoff and won my first overall 25 years after that very first teen contest.

    Will get back to some natty Masters comps (and maybe a few Open shows) this Fall.
    MHL Welcome!!!!!!!! So happy to see you on this side

    Hey guys MHL is Da Man!!!! Not only does he talk the talk but walks the walk!!! He really knows his stuff!!!

    MHL I know I owe you a PM letting you know how the EC Stack and diet are going real life has been kicking my arse. I am sooooo stoked about how well its working I can't wait to post progress pics the end of Aug. I really miss you guys and my journal, I am seriously considering starting a new journal, I miss all the feedback and advise
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    Looking awesome jive.
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    Looking awesome jive.
    post yours flang, i wanna see you in your little rugby shorts



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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    Looking awesome jive.
    thanks man

    and yeah, wanna see you and DPNZ's pics bro!! this thread is awesome cause you also get to see some face pics of posters who you usually never see anything but their avi haha, although my face pics are a bit retarded from the posing
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    Originally Posted by jiveinhere View Post
    thanks man

    and yeah, wanna see you and DPNZ's pics bro!! this thread is awesome cause you also get to see some face pics of posters who you usually never see anything but their avi haha, although my face pics are a bit retarded from the posing
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    Originally Posted by fitmom43 View Post
    MHL Welcome!!!!!!!! So happy to see you on this side

    Hey guys MHL is Da Man!!!! Not only does he talk the talk but walks the walk!!! He really knows his stuff!!!

    MHL I know I owe you a PM letting you know how the EC Stack and diet are going real life has been kicking my arse. I am sooooo stoked about how well its working I can't wait to post progress pics the end of Aug. I really miss you guys and my journal, I am seriously considering starting a new journal, I miss all the feedback and advise
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    This thread is turning out nicely!

    Might as well post this old vid I made from 2007! Recorded with mobile phone which back then weren't too good! lol But this was where I was at 3-4 years ago - Probably stronger than than I am now!!

    And no pointing out any bad form, its from a while ago remember

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    Originally Posted by flangmasterj View Post
    I'm not too keen on posting what a nine year continues bulk looks like.
    Throw up a pic with your shirt on or a training vid.
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    Originally Posted by mharrislove View Post
    Thanks, man...



    Muscle memory = the real deal. Losing the body fat was tough, but doable for most people with a sound diet and decent will power.

    But the body recomp was roughly -40 lbs or so of body fat, and +15 to 19 lbs of LBM (I lost some LBM after the prep), which borders on the insane - especially for an > 40 guy with an eye on natty comps. So, I had noob like gains during my first year back, but my LBM gains slowed down to a much more pedestrian 3-4 lbs during the 2nd year of the comeback.



    It was tougher than I thought it would be. I mean, I started out gradually, but once I completed the transition from body weight exercise --> machines --> free weights I tried to kill the weights like I did in my 20s. Big mistake. After a few false starts and dumb injuries, I started to use periodization to cycle workload and I went from 3 consecutive days of training to 2 days on and 1 day off.

    Connective tissues don't adapt to resistance training at the same rate as muscle tissue at any age, but this issue is amplified as we age. So, paying more attention to recovery was the perhaps the most important modification I made due to age.

    On the upside, I require far fewer calories to gain size these days in comparison to my younger years when I struggled to put on mass despite eating everything in sight. So, it's not all bad news!
    Great answer, great transformation.

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    Good luck. 40 is the new 20. I hate sayings like this but its true. You look awesome
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    i'll contribute a couple shots.

    5 weeks ago:


    last night:


    sorry about the lighting in the 2nd one, i was too close to the camera. 5 weeks of back progress. i'm getting ready for my first ever competition (obviously a natural show, in the INBF). link to my prep log is in my sig if anybody wants to stop by, it's getting pretty lonely in there. thanks for any compliments/critiques
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    Originally Posted by buckeye185 View Post
    i'll contribute a couple shots.

    5 weeks ago:


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    sorry about the lighting in the 2nd one, i was too close to the camera. 5 weeks of back progress. i'm getting ready for my first ever competition (obviously a natural show, in the INBF). link to my prep log is in my sig if anybody wants to stop by, it's getting pretty lonely in there. thanks for any compliments/critiques
    Good work! Could be the difference of the lighting but you look leaner in pic 2 and your back detail and thickness is improved.

    Also - Best way to get some traffic in your journal is simply to take in interest in other people's journals - Perhaps find people who are competing in the same show or who are at a similar level? I use to post in wuite a few different journals simply to give people motivation and advice and the same members would come to mine too. Think it was on 100 pages by the time I ended up stopping posting in it.
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    Originally Posted by Gorky88 View Post
    Great answer, great transformation.

    Repped brother.

    Good luck. 40 is the new 20. I hate sayings like this but its true. You look awesome
    Thanks, man. I appreciate the encouragement. See you around in the IFBB section...
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    @Stefan - Damn bro! Looking sick, I think this is really going to end up being a battle between my lower body and your torso LOL

    @mharrislove - Your progress is so freakin' inspirational bro, repped. Just the fact that you competed again after 25 years of your first show is outstanding in itself! Really shows that you have a deep passion for what you're doing, and that's something I aspire to build up to myself!
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    Have been a regular lurker in the IFBB section, new here as poster but would like to show you guys my physique:



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    Originally Posted by callinswaist View Post
    Have been a regular lurker in the IFBB section, new here as poster but would like to show you guys my physique:



    Looking spot on mate. Ripped and good shape - especially shoulder width to waist size ratio in that lat spread! Keep going and keep adding that mass!
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