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    Question Do YOU take BCAA's?

    Just wanted to hear a few opinions on BCAA's
    As the title say do you take them? if so when do you take them and what are your goals? (Bulking, Cutting ect.)

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    Originally Posted by NattyFLEX View Post
    Just wanted to hear a few opinions on BCAA's
    As the title say do you take them? if so when do you take them and what are your goals? (Bulking, Cutting ect.)

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    I used to because I believed they were important (and I'm bulking by the way). However, I found out that if you eat a diet rich in whole, protein sources, you will end up obtaining a large amount of amino acids from your diet anyway, making supplementation of BCAA's pretty useless and, quite frankly, a waste of money.

    Here's a quote from Lyle McDonald:
    The BCAA can not be made within the body and must be obtained by the diet. In that context, I’d note that all high quality proteins actually contain quite a bit of BCAA. Proteins such as meat typically contain about 15% BCAA by weight (e.g. 100 grams of protein will provide about 15 grams of BCAA) while dairy proteins such as whey and casein contain more. Some forms of whey contain as much as 25% BCAA by weight (e.g. 100 grams of whey protein will provide 25 grams of BCAA), casein comes in at about 20%.
    Quoting from The Protein Book about this:
    A typical diet containing high quality protein will provide 15-20 grams of BCAAs for every
    100 grams of protein ingested (25); diets containing a significant amount of whey protein
    will contain slightly more than this. A 100 kg athlete consuming 3.0 g/kg protein, or 300
    grams of protein per day, would be expected to be consuming 45-60 grams of BCAAs per
    day; again, this value would be slightly higher if a large amount of whey protein was being
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    This is an important point because the grand majority of studies which have shown benefits from BCAA supplementation have done so without first providing adequate protein in the first place. And as is always the case with such things; nutrients do very different things when they are shoring up a deficiency or inadequacy than when they are not.
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    I do not take dedicated capsules for my AAs, I am taking Purple Wraath, and have Purple PsyKO as well which more than cover that aspect. Through other forms of supplementations there isn't really a need to dedicate a whole supplement purely to supplement AAs IMO.
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    thanks for the reply PeteyBoy
    Yeah im really not sure if i should take them or not, i have heard that BCAA's actually do work because they are Free-Form amino acids which absorb very quickly and can be useful when taken during working out
    but not sure how true that is.

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    Originally Posted by NattyFLEX View Post
    thanks for the reply PeteyBoy
    Yeah im really not sure if i should take them or not, i have heard that BCAA's actually do work because they are Free-Form amino acids which absorb very quickly and can be useful when taken during working out
    but not sure how true that is.

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    Originally Posted by NotReal View Post
    I do not take dedicated capsules for my AAs, I am taking Purple Wraath, and have Purple PsyKO as well which more than cover that aspect. Through other forms of supplementations there isn't really a need to dedicate a whole supplement purely to supplement AAs IMO.
    Thx for the reply, what does purple wrath have in it besides Amino Acids?

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    Originally Posted by NattyFLEX View Post
    Thx for the reply, what does purple wrath have in it besides Amino Acids?

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    BCAA's do actually have some calories, but the FDA does not require them to put this in their nutritional facts. Xtend used to have nutritional labels that said 10 calories, but after learning the fact that the FDA did not make this a requirement, they took their nutritional labels off.

    In truth, if you were to supplement with BCAA's, since they are themselves protein, 1 gram of BCAA is essentially 4 calories.
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    I take BCAA's and EAA's as a staple year round. Ill have 10-15 grams pre-training as I hate drinking fluids while I train. Also will have it between meals to help control appetite.

    Taking the amino's pre-training also allows me to control my appetite during training. Not sure if this is placebo but it works for me and have no desire of changing that.

    Ill use Powershock when using nitrates, and switch to LG BC+EAA when cycling off nitrates. Ill have to switch to Purple Wrath once the LG supply is gone.
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    I use BCAA's when I know that I will not be able to consume enough protein for a period of time (at work, during long training sessions, etc.).
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    if i'm cutting then MAYBE, otherwise i'm getting enough from other food sources.
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    Thanks for all the opinions

    I am gonna start taking BCAA's during my workout since it laste about 75mins, Xtend also taste a lot better than drinking water during my workout lol
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    Yep. I take Xtend 80% of the time and PW the rest of the time. I usually train fasted so they come in quite handy.
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    Take amino acids everyday

    Mostly I use them intraworkout, during/around cardio, and a nightly dose.

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    BCAA's definitely have their place. I use them usually when dieting or between meals if I can't eat for a little while. They really are beneficial, and I use them during my workout too to help spare glycogen and help put my body in a positive state of protein synthesis (protein synthesis vs. protein breakdown). They also are absorbed more readily than protein and get into the bloodstream quicker. I'd say they are definitely worth investing in.

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    Take amino acids everyday

    Mostly I use them intraworkout, during/around cardio, and a nightly dose.

    My favorites are RecoverPRO, Core ABC, and of course Purple Wraath


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    Originally Posted by NattyFLEX View Post
    Just wanted to hear a few opinions on BCAA's
    As the title say do you take them? if so when do you take them and what are your goals? (Bulking, Cutting ect.)

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    I take them intra-w/o usually. Mix with carbs when bulking, when cutting jus take the BCAA's. I just got the Recoverpro lemonade and am finding myslef drinking them alot more since the taste is amazing. Can't comment on results per se, but I am sure it is not hindering anything. I see it give a slight increase in recovery and maybe a little endurance.
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    Originally Posted by NattyFLEX View Post
    Thanks for all the opinions

    I am gonna start taking BCAA's during my workout since it laste about 75mins, Xtend also taste a lot better than drinking water during my workout lol
    I think you are making a GREAT decision to start taking BCAA's!!! The key times would be whenever you need something immediately for Muscle Sparing or Building Purposes; So, first thing in the AM, between meals, Pre-Training/Cardio, During/Intra-Training/Cardio, and Post-Training/Cardio! Best Wishes!
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    Originally Posted by 970Muscle View Post
    I think you are making a GREAT decision to start taking BCAA's!!! The key times would be whenever you need something immediately for Muscle Sparing or Building Purposes; So, first thing in the AM, between meals, Pre-Training/Cardio, During/Intra-Training/Cardio, and Post-Training/Cardio! Best Wishes!
    Thanks, hopefully i see good results with them
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    Originally Posted by peteyboy1015 View Post
    I used to because I believed they were important (and I'm bulking by the way). However, I found out that if you eat a diet rich in whole, protein sources, you will end up obtaining a large amount of amino acids from your diet anyway, making supplementation of BCAA's pretty useless and, quite frankly, a waste of money.

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    Nice!! I was just about to say the same thing. Lyle does however indicate Glutimine "might" be of some use on a diet (i.e immune system function).
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    Nice!! I was just about to say the same thing. Lyle does however indicate Glutimine "might" be of some use on a diet (i.e immune system function).
    Not really...glutamine is readily available to the body, both through diet and in the body itself. It's non-essential so the body makes glutamine on its own. The only real use for glutamine is for those who are excessively low in glutamine, like those under high trauma conditions.
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    I don't take any but I do miss them. Might start again.
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    Originally Posted by Mr. Aries View Post
    I don't take any but I do miss them. Might start again.
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    Originally Posted by NattyFLEX View Post
    Thanks for all the opinions

    I am gonna start taking BCAA's during my workout since it laste about 75mins, Xtend also taste a lot better than drinking water during my workout lol
    ^^^ Perfect time to take BCAA's. as you stated earlier it is the most optimal time due to digestion and keeping the body anabolic while muscle is being broken down during your workouts.

    Layne Norton a Scivation athlete also did his Muscle Protein Synthesis study that shows taking Aminos between meals (spaced 4-6 hours apart) helps protein levels reach their refractory stages before being spiked again (instead of eating every 2-3 hours) . I highly suggest you google/read his Powerpoint/PDF for more information about that dosage, but stick to your recommended dosage first and foremost on Xtend.

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    Originally Posted by peteyboy1015 View Post
    Not really...glutamine is readily available to the body, both through diet and in the body itself. It's non-essential so the body makes glutamine on its own. The only real use for glutamine is for those who are excessively low in glutamine, like those under high trauma conditions.
    I think that is why Lyle stresses "might". Subjective feedback suggest glutamine can aid in immune system function........which is about as subjective as BCAA's feedback. As noted, studies done on BCAA's where done on people who were deficient. Your typical lifter is probably eating at least 200 gr of protein per day (or 30-50 gr BCAA as Lyle points out). The question remains, is your body utlizing additional BCAA beyond a set point? My suspicision tells me no....you're probably just pizzing it away.
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