Cutting/p90x?

[tqb43]

Hey there,
So is p90x good for a cut, or would it be too extreme for me? - Or if i should follow the diets from it? My friend's dad used it, and hes' now ripped as hell- and he's middle aged. I'm unfortunately light to begin with i'm 5'8, i did a bulk from about 140-158 but i was putting on too much fat so i figured i should cut now before i try to bulk again. For the past 3 weeks or so i've been cutting about 400-500 calories from my maintenance calories, and my weight is about 153 now.
I don't really want to get my weight below 145 though i personally feel like that's really starting to get underweight. Here's a pic of me, ask if you want better ones. Body fat guesses?
Thanks
ps
i'm scared to be real skinny again like i used to be



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[fade2green514]

p90x is great, anyone can do it.

they use high intensity calorie burning exercises to get you ripped.

anyways, yea try it out. make sure u follow the nutrition plan for p90x too because that's how p90x people get results. its at least half the battle.

[tqb43]

p90x is great, anyone can do it.

they use high intensity calorie burning exercises to get you ripped.

anyways, yea try it out. make sure u follow the nutrition plan for p90x too because that's how p90x people get results. its at least half the battle.

Can i do it at the gym?/adjust to to use gym equipment?
And you don't think i'll lose too much weight?

[fade2green514]

Can i do it at the gym?/adjust to to use gym equipment?
And you don't think i'll lose too much weight?

you cant really lose too fast unless you eat like ridiculously low amounts of calories.

on p90x, faithfully, at your weight, eat about 2000 calories a day and you'll lose a pound a week.

on p90x, how much you'll PROBABLY end up doing, 1800 calories seems more reasonable.

ive said it before and ill say it again, work out smarter not harder.

[tqb43]

eh im more concerned about losing too much weight rather than too fast.
Did you try p90x though? Whats your story with it?

[r3d1911]

eh im more concerned about losing too much weight rather than too fast.
Did you try p90x though? Whats your story with it?

ok im definitely no expert but.... p90x just sucks lol. yes i have done it it was too easy. when you first start its hard as hell but after about 4 weeks its just a joke. and tony horton is just annoying to listen to everyday! heres my advice

1. lift hard in the 5-7 rep range with failure on or before the 7th rep but do at least 5 reps. doing no more than 2 sets and also most importantly keep the ENTIRE workout 60 mins or less.

2. do cardio on a completely seperate day than lifting and do about 15 mins of hiit. hiit elevates your metabolism so you burn more calories even while resting.

3. if your looking to cut fat eat in a deficit, but, make it enough calories that your lifts dont go down if they go down your more than likely losing muscle. its really honestly is that easy. and i am a born fatty this does work. i went from 230 lbs and 30+% bodyfat to now 179 and am in a slow bulk to add more mass. also adding mass is done the exact same way. too many people try and confuse working out but it need not be confusing.

btw youve done a good job so far keep up the great job!

[Emdad]

OP, if you're too afraid of getting skinny, either throw away the scale or even the mirror or bulk with your current body fat.

P90x is better than nothing, but I'd hit the weights instead. Compound movements like bench press, overhead press, deadlift, squats, chinups.

Good luck.

[masud]

Anyone have a link to the P90x nutrition guide? I don't feel like paying 100+ bucks just to go "wtf, i already know this"

[GSeriesFAL]

Anyone have a link to the P90x nutrition guide? I don't feel like paying 100+ bucks just to go "wtf, i already know this"

Low fat, low carb, high protein. Eat enough to maintain activity level. That's pretty much it.

[jon1995]

Low fat, low carb, high protein. Eat enough to maintain activity level. That's pretty much it.

its actually not low carb for the first month it is...for the second month it was even carb and protein for the third month carbs take up more than half of your calories....the diet plan does suck its just not low carb
To answer the guys question:
p/c/f
month 1: 50/30/20
month 2: 40/40/20
month 3: 20/60/20

it was just what the main thought was back then i guess just use the stickies here.

[joechow]

its actually not low carb for the first month it is...for the second month it was even carb and protein for the third month carbs take up more than half of your calories....the diet plan does suck its just not low carb
To answer the guys question:
p/c/f
month 1: 50/30/20
month 2: 40/40/20
month 3: 20/60/20

it was just what the main thought was back then i guess just use the stickies here.

Your body doesn't care about what percentage it gets from each macro, but the overall amount. On a cut, shoot for .45 g fat/lb, at least 1g protein/lb and fill in the rest with carbs.

[BadBrain]

Hey there,
So is p90x good for a cut, or would it be too extreme for me? - Or if i should follow the diets from it? My friend's dad used it, and hes' now ripped as hell- and he's middle aged. I'm unfortunately light to begin with i'm 5'8, i did a bulk from about 140-158 but i was putting on too much fat so i figured i should cut now before i try to bulk again. For the past 3 weeks or so i've been cutting about 400-500 calories from my maintenance calories, and my weight is about 153 now.
I don't really want to get my weight below 145 though i personally feel like that's really starting to get underweight. Here's a pic of me, ask if you want better ones. Body fat guesses?
Thanks
ps
i'm scared to be real skinny again like i used to be



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I did p90x. And lol at the idiot above who says he did it and it was too easy. I call serious BS.

It is NOT easy. Most people here could NOT hang with most of the workouts and, like most, would have to modify.

Having said all of that...

I don't think that p90x is right for the OP. He's looking to add mass, and, for that, good old fashioned weight lifting is the way to go.

Starting strength, or All Pro's "simple beginner's routine" (which is stickied on the programs forum) would be a better choice.

P90x is better for someone needing to lose fat and get in shape who doesn't want to go to the gym or invest in a bunch of equipment.

[jon1995]

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Your body doesn't care about what percentage it gets from each macro, but the overall amount. On a cut, shoot for .45 g fat/lb, at least 1g protein/lb and fill in the rest with carbs.

iknow...i was explaining the guide to the guy that asked..

[tqb43]

I did p90x. And lol at the idiot above who says he did it and it was too easy. I call serious BS.

It is NOT easy. Most people here could NOT hang with most of the workouts and, like most, would have to modify.

Having said all of that...

I don't think that p90x is right for the OP. He's looking to add mass, and, for that, good old fashioned weight lifting is the way to go.

Starting strength, or All Pro's "simple beginner's routine" (which is stickied on the programs forum) would be a better choice.

P90x is better for someone needing to lose fat and get in shape who doesn't want to go to the gym or invest in a bunch of equipment.

Indeed I want to add mass, but i'm getting too fat and want to get ripped first
Heres another pic
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sigh

Should i maybe follow the p90x diet and do my regular routine with some cardio?

[lnspired]

I do a hybrid P90X and Insanity routine as Tony Horton is extremely annoying. I think Shaun T is good though. I eat 1800-2200 calories daily and I lose about 1 pound a week.

[jon1995]

I do a hybrid P90X and Insanity routine as Tony Horton is extremely annoying. I think Shaun T is good though. I eat 1800-2200 calories daily and I lose about 1 pound a week.

how much do you weigh dude? Im not cutting anymore but id figure you might need more than that what are your stats?

[BadBrain]

Indeed I want to add mass, but i'm getting too fat and want to get ripped first
Heres another pic
[IMG=http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/143/p1010309ad.jpg][/IMG]
sigh

Should i maybe follow the p90x diet and do my regular routine with some cardio?

I would take the p90x diet with a grain of salt.

Just read this, and look at the pic's of the OP. Is that lean enough for you?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=129247741

No "diet" or macros required. Just a caloric deficit.

[lnspired]

how much do you weigh dude? Im not cutting anymore but id figure you might need more than that what are your stats?

I'm 5"7 and weigh around 150 pounds. I do additional cardio as well such as cycling to school everyday.

Here is the hybrid routine that I do - pledgetostayfit.com/documents/p90x_insanity_hybrid_workout_schedule.pdf

[tqb43]

I would take the p90x diet with a grain of salt.

Just read this, and look at the pic's of the OP. Is that lean enough for you?

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=129247741

No "diet" or macros required. Just a caloric deficit.

Yeah that's a good thread, it just seems like it will take forever to lose fat this way. But i guess bodybuilding is pretty simple at the core.

[jon1995]

I'm 5"7 and weigh around 150 pounds. I do additional cardio as well such as cycling to school everyday.

Here is the hybrid routine that I do - pledgetostayfit.com/documents/p90x_insanity_hybrid_workout_schedule.pdf

TBH i would bump it up to 2400-2500 insanity burns alot of calories in and after the workout.

[lnspired]

TBH i would bump it up to 2400-2500 insanity burns alot of calories in and after the workout.

I know, but I am trying to lose weight. The beachbody calorie calculator says that I can eat 2600 calories without gaining weight, so some days I eat over my personal allowance.

[jon1995]

I know, but I am trying to lose weight. The beachbody calorie calculator says that I can eat 2600 calories without gaining weight, so some days I eat over my personal allowance.

I lost a ton of weight eating 2800 calories doing just p90x without insanity. I realize im larger but with insanity i need atleast 3200 to maintain. I also realize you want to loose weight but at what cost muscle mass? IDTS. Start with 2600 calories if your doign a hybrid and see what happens just do it for 2 weeks see your results. P90x is good for loosing fat insanity is even better. Your doing both you can probably eat at maintenance and loose fat tbh. Start with 2600 stay for 2 weeks see what happens. My 2 cents.

[lnspired]

I lost a ton of weight eating 2800 calories doing just p90x without insanity. I realize im larger but with insanity i need atleast 3200 to maintain. I also realize you want to loose weight but at what cost muscle mass? IDTS. Start with 2600 calories if your doign a hybrid and see what happens just do it for 2 weeks see your results. P90x is good for loosing fat insanity is even better. Your doing both you can probably eat at maintenance and loose fat tbh. Start with 2600 stay for 2 weeks see what happens. My 2 cents.

I might try increasing my intake as sometimes I feel sluggish and tired. Thanks for your input

[BradleyT74]

P90x is better for someone needing to lose fat and get in shape who doesn't want to go to the gym or invest in a bunch of equipment.

I think that's about the best way I've seen anyone describe it. Also add that it's for someone who doesn't want to come up with their own workout routine.

OP - Go to YouTube and search for "P90X results" and look at the videos of people who start off with a similar body to yours. They often end up very lean and shredded but pretty much never have any bulk or mass. More like a "fitness model" type body than a "body builder" type body if you know what I mean.

I'd also 2nd the notion that the stickies here are a better guide to nutrition. The P90X guide has to be "dumbed down" so that anyone can understand and follow it - so they tell you "eat 7 portions of protein a day, eat 4 portions of carbs", etc...

[tqb43]

can it be modified to use more weights rather than body weight? e.g- dumbell chest presses instead of pushups.

[joechow]

iknow...i was explaining the guide to the guy that asked..

Oh I know, I was agreeing with you. I bolded it because it was good advice. Sorry for the mix up.

[jon1995]

can it be modified to use more weights rather than body weight? e.g- dumbell chest presses instead of pushups.

yes
http://rippedlikenick.com/the-plan/h...ass-with-p90x/

[jon1995]

Oh I know, I was agreeing with you. I bolded it because it was good advice. Sorry for the mix up.

haha oh okay tbh its a good start off diet for people who are trying to get headed in the right direction.

[joechow]

haha oh okay tbh its a good start off diet for people who are trying to get headed in the right direction.

O no doubt. It's getting people to read it that's the hard part

[jon1995]

O no doubt. It's getting people to read it that's the hard part

the fats are alittle low thought 20% is like 53 grams of fat if you were at the 2400 calorie mark but its not that catastrophically low as ive seen some articles say shoot for like 30-40 grams.