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    The Official Stupid Question Thread

    Got the idea from over at PHF.

    Ask any question having to do with bodybuilding, doesn't matter how dumb the question...we won't flame...do it

    Was hoping Hyruliangoat, spiderman997, LankedOut, Staliyo_Lycan, Marc936 and DDon1996, along with any other of the well-educated and insightful posters could help me out with this thread.

    Hopefully it'll cut back on long, obnoxious discussions in threads and instead deliver direct, helpful answers.

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    Are wide grip pullups harder than close grip? Should I do wide grip or close grip for back development?

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    Originally Posted by AnthonyBish View Post
    Are wide grip pullups harder than close grip? Should I do wide grip or close grip for back development?
    Overhand wide - targets upper/lower lats.
    Overhand close - upper lats/middle back.

    I find close grip to be much easier. You should incorporate both.
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    I think this topic is an awesome idea. I'll try to help out whenever I can. I don't always know the answer, but I know a little. With that being said:

    Originally Posted by Strength.Honor View Post
    Overhand wide - targets upper/lower lats.
    Overhand close - upper lats/middle back.

    I find close grip to be much easier. You should incorporate both.

    I've also heard that with wide grip the teres major is being worked more than the lats really are, or something like that.
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    Originally Posted by NewbieX2 View Post

    I've also heard that with wide grip the teres major is being worked more than the lats really are, or something like that.
    ^this. I don't think wide grip works the lats any more than close grip. Infact, I'd go as far as saying that neutral close grip would work lats the best.
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    Originally Posted by NewbieX2 View Post
    I think this topic is an awesome idea. I'll try to help out whenever I can. I don't always know the answer, but I know a little. With that being said:




    I've also heard that with wide grip the teres major is being worked more than the lats really are, or something like that.
    Thanks man! Yeah I don't expect to know all the answers to people's questions. That's why I would like the other knowledgeable posters to help me out. We can answer, add onto, and help whenever possible, but when we don't know the answer we should just pass it along.

    Yes, it also works the teres major. I've noticed that when doing wide grip a lot of the focus depends on the way you lean (lean back w/ elbows more in or lean forward with elbows out more).


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    ^this. I don't think wide grip works the lats any more than close grip. Infact, I'd go as far as saying that neutral close grip would work lats the best.
    Sweet, thanks for the input. All in all, he should incorporate all kinds of pull-ups into his back regimen.
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    Good idea about this thread though, I hope it doesn't turn into massive flaming like alot of other threads do.
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    Originally Posted by Bruno93 View Post
    Good idea about this thread though, I hope it doesn't turn into massive flaming like alot of other threads do.
    We all just need to help make sure that doesn't happen.

    I want everyone to feel free to be able to ask even the simplest of questions and be able to get a quick, simple response to which will help them reach their goals.

    There's no need for an all out argument and discussion like all the other threads pertaining to one subject.
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    Originally Posted by K-trl View Post
    would you sooner do a dumbbell pullover on a back day or a chest day

    Back. I always felt as pullovers were a lat isolation movement.
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    Originally Posted by K-trl View Post
    would you sooner do a dumbbell pullover on a back day or a chest day

    I do dumbbell pullovers on a decline bench for back day. However, for a flat bench, I would probably count it as chest

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    Originally Posted by Bruno93 View Post
    Back. I always felt as pullovers were a lat isolation movement.
    Originally Posted by hheck50 View Post
    I do dumbbell pullovers on a decline bench for back day. However, for a flat bench, I would probably count it as chest
    Back day for me, I like to target it towards my lats. I've never really done it for the purpose of chest.
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    Do you guys see better results (for yourselves) with a split routine or with full body workouts?

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    Originally Posted by hheck50 View Post
    Do you guys see better results (for yourselves) with a split routine or with full body workouts?
    FB so far. Have been getting great results since I started doing SS.
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    Originally Posted by hheck50 View Post
    Do you guys see better results (for yourselves) with a split routine or with full body workouts?
    I used to do a 6 day split.

    Mon-Chest/bis
    Tue-Back/tri
    Wed-Legs
    Thur-Chest
    Fri- Shoulders
    Sat- Arms
    Sun-Rest

    I did make gains, however I have liked my last two 3 and 4 day splits (more frequency) better.

    Day 1: Chest/Shoulders/Tris
    Day 2: Back/Bis/Traps
    Day 3: Legs
    Day 4: Rest (abs cardio)

    Now I'm doing:

    Day 1: Shoulders/Legs
    Day 2: Chest/Back
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    Originally Posted by hheck50 View Post
    Do you guys see better results (for yourselves) with a split routine or with full body workouts?
    Upper/lower split has given my most success so far. Full body is really nice, though. Incredible for strength.
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    Originally Posted by Bruno93 View Post
    FB so far. Have been getting great results since I started doing SS.


    Originally Posted by Strength.Honor View Post
    I used to do a 6 day split.

    Mon-Chest/bis
    Tue-Back/tri
    Wed-Legs
    Thur-Chest
    Fri- Shoulders
    Sat- Arms
    Sun-Rest

    I did make gains, however I have liked my last two 3 and 4 day splits (more frequency) better.

    Day 1: Chest/Shoulders/Tris
    Day 2: Back/Bis/Traps
    Day 3: Legs
    Day 4: Rest (abs cardio)

    Now I'm doing:

    Day 1: Shoulders/Legs
    Day 2: Chest/Back
    Day 3: Arms
    Day 4: Rest
    I've been doing Stronglifts 5x5 for almost 5 months now and my results are awful. I'm 160lbs and yet my lifts are only 125 squat, 205 deadlift, 90 bench press and 105 row (all for 5x5 except deadlift 1x5). I eat ~2,420 calories a day aiming for 170 grams protein and 80 grams fat. Would you guys recommend that I switch to a split routine or should I up calories?

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    Originally Posted by hheck50 View Post
    I've been doing Stronglifts 5x5 for almost 5 months now and my results are awful. I'm 160lbs and yet my lifts are only 125 squat, 205 deadlift, 90 bench press and 105 row (all for 5x5 except deadlift 1x5). I eat ~2,420 calories a day aiming for 170 grams protein and 80 grams fat. Would you guys recommend that I switch to a split routine or should I up calories?
    Up the calories.
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    Up the calories.
    Alright thanks. How many calories do you think I should go to? And also, do you think I should add more protein/fat?

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    Originally Posted by hheck50 View Post
    Alright thanks. How many calories do you think I should go to? And also, do you think I should add more protein/fat?
    Ammount of protein / fat sounds fine. I'd increase the carbs. Keep upping the calories until you're steadily gaining +1 lb / week and your lifts are increasing every workout.
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    Originally Posted by Bruno93 View Post
    Ammount of protein / fat sounds fine. I'd increase the carbs. Keep upping the calories until you're steadily gaining +1 lb / week and your lifts are increasing every workout.
    K, thanks very much for all the help!

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    Originally Posted by K-trl View Post
    would you sooner do a dumbbell pullover on a back day or a chest day

    i remember doing them once, felt like my rotator cuffs were gona tear away like a mahfahka. Dont know wut the hype is about that exercise

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    Up the calories.
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    Do you think on a recomp I could gain muscle mass whilst losing Body fat?
    It's possible, but not as effective. Takes longer.
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    Originally Posted by hheck50 View Post
    I've been doing Stronglifts 5x5 for almost 5 months now and my results are awful. I'm 160lbs and yet my lifts are only 125 squat, 205 deadlift, 90 bench press and 105 row (all for 5x5 except deadlift 1x5). I eat ~2,420 calories a day aiming for 170 grams protein and 80 grams fat. Would you guys recommend that I switch to a split routine or should I up calories?
    If you're looking to up your lifts, upping calories will benefit you such that you will have more mass with which to work, but the problem more likely comes down to intensity in the gym. If you're lifting as hard as you can every time, you will be able to lift even harder next time. With this in mind, I would do both. Go grab some food right now, and next time you step into the gym, be mentally ready to try harder than you ever have. With these principles, you will always make progress.


    Originally Posted by nusa View Post
    Do you think on a recomp I could gain muscle mass whilst losing Body fat?
    Yes, but it is more effective to have one goal in mind at a time. Also, you will feel better mentally seeing muscles grow quickly OR seeing fat lost quickly. Your mind will play tricks on you trying to get bigger and smaller at the same time.
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    Originally Posted by nusa View Post
    Do you think on a recomp I could gain muscle mass whilst losing Body fat?
    No. I think you could gain strength and build muscle, however you will not gain muscle mass.

    Caloric deficit = loss of weight
    Caloric surplus = gain of weight

    At least that is the case if you're doing it naturally.
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    Originally Posted by NewbieX2 View Post
    It's possible, but not as effective. Takes longer.
    Well heres my goals could you give me advice on what to do?

    When my off season roles around I need to get down from around 20% BF to 14 or 15%.

    I need to gain as much strength as possible and muscle mass would be a good thing too.

    I have 9 months to do this so whats your take on this?
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    Originally Posted by Strength.Honor View Post
    No. I think you could gain strength and build muscle, however you will not gain muscle mass.

    Caloric deficit = loss of weight
    Caloric surplus = gain of weight

    At least that is the case if you're doing it naturally.
    I think it is possible, but it's not effective at all. Really slow process. Rather just clean bulk.
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    Originally Posted by Strength.Honor View Post
    No. I think you could gain strength and build muscle, however you will not gain muscle mass.

    Caloric deficit = loss of weight
    Caloric surplus = gain of weight

    At least that is the case if you're doing it naturally.
    Well I figured that see my goals above^? I would appreciate help. Thanks.
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