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    -----The Goal-----
    Run the full 26.2 in 3 hours and 30 minutes

    -----The Plan-----
    Gonna Follow Hal Higdon's Intermediate I running plan. Found here: http://www.halhigdon.com/marathon/inter1.html. Along with the 18 week program I will also incorporate strength training in my routine. I won't run a typical 3 or 4 day split, but rather a 2 day full body routine along with some random days dedicated to deads, squats, etc. The goal is to stay injury free and not burn out.

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    Ran my first marathon last year. The San Francisco Marathon and finished in 3:45. A time I was happy with, but can't stop feeling like I could have done better. I wasn't much of a runner before the marathon, but since I really enjoyed running and overall health benefits. 15 minutes is a lot to shave off in one run, but, I have two things going for me: 1) I'm more experienced & 2) This run will be much flater then SF!

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    In, love to hear how it goes. Higdon's plans are nice because they are pretty straight forward.

    Have you ever heard of the Arnold Pump & Run? It is a 5k race where each competitor benches their body weight as many times as they can beforehand, and for every rep you get 30s subtracted from your time, up to 30 reps. It seems like you might be decent at that if you gave it a try in the future (most years a freak of nature shows up and runs a 16 flat 5k after benching their bw 30 times, but it is still fun, even if it is impossible for a mortal to win it)
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    Originally Posted by whelap2 View Post
    In, love to hear how it goes. Higdon's plans are nice because they are pretty straight forward.

    Have you ever heard of the Arnold Pump & Run? It is a 5k race where each competitor benches their body weight as many times as they can beforehand, and for every rep you get 30s subtracted from your time, up to 30 reps. It seems like you might be decent at that if you gave it a try in the future (most years a freak of nature shows up and runs a 16 flat 5k after benching their bw 30 times, but it is still fun, even if it is impossible for a mortal to win it)
    Thanks for the add. That 5k sounds interesting, is it all over the country? There is going to be a Men's Health Urbanatholon in SF this year in November. I might check that out
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    I guess it is in Ohio, I though it was in California because Arnold is involved in it.

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    Originally Posted by whelap2 View Post
    I guess it is in Ohio, I though it was in California because Arnold is involved in it.

    http://www.arnoldsportsfestival.com/...p-and-run.html
    The only thing Arnie did for Cali is ruin our budget!
    That race looks fun though, would be interesting to see how I would do. Maybe one of these days I will see how I do at the gym and take off for a 5 K
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    I laugh because Im doing the last 7 weeks of hal higdons novice marathon program !
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    Im kinda in hiding but know im subbed and lurking! Thats a great Marathon plan BTW, I incorporated some of Advanced runs into my Marathon Plan.
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    HA HA - in and subbed

    I laugh because Im doing the last 7 weeks of hal higdons novice marathon program !
    HA HA.

    I laugh cuz I don't think the novice program calls for 405lb deadlifts! Glad to have a fellow SoCal bro on board.

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    Im kinda in hiding but know im subbed and lurking! Thats a great Marathon plan BTW, I incorporated some of Advanced runs into my Marathon Plan.
    There he is! Feel free to drop a bomb of knowledge whenever you want. Always appreciated. How's the training going?
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    05-29-2011

    Outdoor Run: 5.53 Miles 42:42 / 07:43 pace



    Notes: Started off a little sluggish, but overall felt great. Was shooting for 5 miles and went slightly over. Happy with the pace and really wasn't trying to push it, just focusing on slowly getting my mileage back up.
    Ran against traffic for the entire route, which is a first. I typically with traffic, only because the angle of the road feels better on my ankles, but a guy who goes to my gym and is a fellow runner in the area told me that someone purposefully went off the road and tried to hit him! He said he heard the car coming behind him and had to dive into the bushes! Crazy, if it was me I would have been roadkill cuz my headphones and I would have been oblivious. I'm sure it was some fat bish that was mad at dah fitness.


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    nice run - like your pace!

    and love the eye candy

    I want to get a garmin GPS watch so I can track my pace in outdoor runs!
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    Looking forward to you tearing up the tarmac!
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    nice run - like your pace!

    and love the eye candy

    I want to get a garmin GPS watch so I can track my pace in outdoor runs!
    Those Garmin GPS watches are the sh!t, my bro got one off ebay. Not a bad price either. It beats having to carry my iphone around
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    05/30/2011 (Memorial Day)

    Outdoor Run: 3.46 Miles 25:31 / 07:22 pace



    Notes: Carrying alot of water weight from beer and sh!tty eating over the weekend. Went to the Salt River in AZ and had a blast, but back to work.

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    when I do my outdoor runs I have to stop sometimes for streetlights

    do you have this same problem or do you run where there is none of this?!?!?

    like the eye candy!
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    Decent pace happening and hate the bloated feeling of beer Besides the weekend, how has the diet been treating you?

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    Originally Posted by mab23 View Post
    when I do my outdoor runs I have to stop sometimes for streetlights

    do you have this same problem or do you run where there is none of this?!?!?

    like the eye candy!
    I stick to the neighborhoods and avoid the streetlights. In the past I have had to stop and really screws with me, so I try to avoid it now.

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    Decent pace happening and hate the bloated feeling of beer Besides the weekend, how has the diet been treating you?

    Stars and stripes eye candy = approve
    Diet hasn't been anything special, really just trying to live my life. Make smart choices for the most part, but not be controlled by it. Hence, drinking if the time is right, etc.
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    40sx12x2
    Hanging Leg Raises
    3 sets x 15
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    +25x15x2
    Dips
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    Mirin the intensity and volume you brought to that hour of power! Are you still training in the mornings?
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    Originally Posted by wabeer1 View Post
    Mirin the intensity and volume you brought to that hour of power! Are you still training in the mornings?
    Yes sir. Yesterday was later though. I've actually been thinking about changing gyms so I can train in the evenings. Early morning training + work + kids/family = zero energy in evenings right now. The gym I go to now is very small and is packed full of highschool teenie boppers in the evenings, so I would end up just going nuts and throwing a dumbbell in someone's face if I trained at that hour. The bigger gym is twice the cost though...so I dunno.
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    Outdoor Run: 4.12Miles 32:22 / 07:50 pace



    Notes: Slow fat kid is slow.... Actually, don't even care about the pace right now. Ventured out for four miles and that was my only goal. The past couple days I have seen a hawk perched up on a lamp post, same spot every morning. I don't know why, but it makes me happy to see. Guess I'm a tree hugger!

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    June 02, 2011



    Warmup:Jumping Rope
    Pullups (Wide Grip):
    BWx10
    BWx10
    BWx8
    Pullups (Hammer Grip):
    BWx10
    BWx10
    BWx8
    Deadlift:
    135x5
    185x5
    225x5
    245x5x2

    Hamster Wheel (treadmill run): 4 miles


    **Notes** Higdon's plan says to do midweek run 30-45 seconds slower then pace, so I did the first 3 miles at 8:30 and the 4th mile at 8:00. Felt real slow in the beginning but worked out ok. Incline was set @ 1.0. Nothing crazy with deads, but felt good and lower back has been feeling good as well.

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    Warmup:10 minutes on elliptical
    Flat Bench:
    135x10
    165x10
    175x10
    185x8
    195x6
    Widegrip Pulldowns:
    140x12x3
    -superset with
    Hyper Extensions:
    BW+25x15x2
    Leg Extensions:
    185x12x3
    Lying Leg Curls
    95x12
    100x12
    BB Upright Rows:
    80x12x2
    -superset to-
    Standing DB Press
    40sx12x2
    Hanging Leg Raises
    3 sets x 15
    Decline Crunches
    +25x15x2
    Dips
    +45x15
    +45x12
    BWx15


    **Notes** TGIF!! 5 miler tomorrow and 6 miler on Sunday. Then to start the actual 18 week plan.

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    enjoy your 5 and 6 mile runs - like the candy
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    Outdoor Run: 5.51Miles 42:18 / 07:40 pace



    Notes: Started out too fast and had to slow pace down. Cool day in SoCal. I'm tired of the June gloom. I will be hitting an Angels game tonight, we'll see how that affects tomorrows run.

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    ever consider running twice a day? you might not have the time for it, but even 20 minutes to shake out the legs in the morning makes me feel way better on the afternoon run. it was only after starting two-a-days that I really started to see improvement, and the extra running was all at recovery pace too so it wasn't even like it was that much work. try it out!
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    ever consider running twice a day? you might not have the time for it, but even 20 minutes to shake out the legs in the morning makes me feel way better on the afternoon run. it was only after starting two-a-days that I really started to see improvement, and the extra running was all at recovery pace too so it wasn't even like it was that much work. try it out!
    Never done a two-a-day with strictly running. I'll run in the am and lift in the pm or vice versa in the past. Might give it a try depending on my schedule
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    Like the set yup of you lifts, 'specially deadlift with pullups and deads..fun and intense workout!

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    Originally Posted by wabeer1 View Post
    Like the set yup of you lifts, 'specially deadlift with pullups and deads..fun and intense workout!

    Looking shreddo in your new avi and holding good size.

    Like the Press and Upright combo..might have to borrow!
    Funny part is, I've just been kinda winging the lifts lately, not on a true routine like you. Focus is the running and not looking like your typical runner or Kenyan!

    Weight holding steady at 170lbs, thinking I might want to drop down to 160lbs though I feel much more fluid, limber, etc at a lighter weight. We'll see though, I have some fat I can shed, but don't want to lose TOO much strength.
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