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    Who was the GOAT before Ronnie?

    Its 1997, and Dorian just won his 6th sandow. At that time in the people's eyes who was the greatest of all time?
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    Originally Posted by FAN0FdaSport View Post
    Its 1997, and Dorian just won his 6th sandow. At that time in the people's eyes who was the greatest of all time?
    Plenty will argue that Arnold is still the Goat.
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    Originally Posted by NickM205 View Post
    Plenty will argue that Arnold is still the Goat.
    Because Arnold still is the GOAT.
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    you do know what goat stands for right?

    Greatest Of All Time

    key word there mate ^
    maybe no possibility
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    Originally Posted by INMATEaco View Post
    you do know what goat stands for right?

    Greatest Of All Time

    key word there mate ^
    pretend you travelled back in time bro

    how would you know about Ronnie?
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    Originally Posted by FAN0FdaSport View Post
    pretend you travelled back in time bro

    how would you know about Ronnie?
    Irrelevant. We're in the present now and ronnie still never surpassed Arnold as the greatest ambassador of the sport, along with Arnold's preferred body type (yes ronnie was bigger, more cut, etc.), and overall as an icon to the word bodybuilding.
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    Originally Posted by _AustrianOak View Post
    Irrelevant. We're in the present now and ronnie still never surpassed Arnold as the greatest ambassador of the sport, along with Arnold's preferred body type (yes ronnie was bigger, more cut, etc.), and overall as an icon to the word bodybuilding.
    Hey thats nice and all, but can't you realize this thread is designed to have a discussion without Ronnie. If you wanna say Arnold>Lee and Dorian thats cool, but if your going to derail this to Ronnie vs Arnold that isn't necessary here.
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    Originally Posted by _AustrianOak View Post
    Irrelevant. We're in the present now and ronnie still never surpassed Arnold as the greatest ambassador of the sport, along with Arnold's preferred body type (yes ronnie was bigger, more cut, etc.), and overall as an icon to the word bodybuilding.
    Not to meantion Ronnie Lookied like he was a few months pregant to boot!
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    Arnold without a doubt
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    Arnold probably would have been, although i wonder if Haney's reign was still a bit more fresh in peoples minds, and thus he mightve been a popular option
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    In my eyes, Arnold. Statistically, i don't know, Haney probably. But IMO GOAT is heavily based on peoples preference and i'm sure a lot of people, mostly the ones not heavily or in any way involved with the sport, recognised (and to this day still do) Arnold as THE bodybuilder.
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    Ronnie Coleman is the GOAT in terms of physical development, but Arnold is the GOAT in terms of what he means to the sport. Like Platz said, Arnold is bodybuilding.
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    GOAT = Greatest Of all Time = Arnold = Ronnie never was the GOAT.


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    for me arnold was and still is GOAT

    ok ronnie have better physique thanks to advances in sport, but ask random
    person in street who is ronnie and they dont know

    ask them who is arnold and everyone will know (unless they live under a rock)

    arnold= reason why 99% of people i know bodybuild including me

    arnold promoted bodybuilding thanks to his charisma great body (also aestethic) and appearances in various media
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    Who the hell cares about what bb'er promoted the sport the most? Ronnie is the GOAT hands down. Fking lol @ basing it on anything but how good of a bodybuilder the person was.
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    Originally Posted by Loctus View Post
    Who the hell cares about what bb'er promoted the sport the most? Ronnie is the GOAT hands down. Fking lol @ basing it on anything but how good of a bodybuilder the person was.
    bodybuilder = person who bodybuilds

    question is not "who have best body by todays standards of all time" but who is greatest persona who bodybuilds of all time

    greatest is not just how you look but also impact you create

    best soccer player of all time is considered either pele or maradona, even though today you have many people who can run faster,have better ball control etc. hell you even have 12 year old kids who can do better moves than pele even dreamed of - does that make them better soccer players?

    its not just end result, its way you come there

    arnold conquered the world by age 25-27, before that he moved to america to chase his dream,he made sport popular and was way ahead of his peers
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    Originally Posted by Loctus View Post
    Who the hell cares about what bb'er promoted the sport the most? Ronnie is the GOAT hands down. Fking lol @ basing it on anything but how good of a bodybuilder the person was.
    ****ing this. It's GOAT in terms of how they dominated bodybuilding not promoted it, always makes me facepalm when people bring that argument up.

    Ronnie is the GOAT and I can't see anyone surpassing him for some time yet.
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    Originally Posted by Johnny Rotten View Post
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    GOAT = Greatest Of all Time = Arnold = Ronnie never was the GOAT.


    = /thread
    I never knew GOAT = greatest of all time, I though an animal had been randomly picked to represent the best.

    Armed with this knowledge Yates was obvously the GOAT before Ronnie and in many's eyes Yates still is.
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    Originally Posted by the-craig View Post
    ****ing this. It's GOAT in terms of how they dominated bodybuilding not promoted it, always makes me facepalm when people bring that argument up.

    Ronnie is the GOAT and I can't see anyone surpassing him for some time yet.
    Agree and agree, Ronnie has surpased Yates.
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    LOL at Arnold. I will never understand the hype around him. But who cares, Coleman is considered the greatest because of his physique. He doesn't need Terminator.
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    arnold is not goat. he was the greatest in his time but compared to today hes easily outmatched. therefore i would give it to Lee Haney or Dorian Yates
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    Originally Posted by xpin2winx View Post
    arnold is not goat. he was the greatest in his time but compared to today hes easily outmatched. therefore i would give it to Lee Haney or Dorian Yates
    wat?

    if we agree to compare to today...why say Dorian and Haney? is today 1990? If 'today' were the case then everyone here knows Ronnie sh!ts on everyone as far as contests/conditioning/mass.

    IMO Arnold is and will always be the GOAT. Arnold changed BB forever...made it mainstream, brought understanding of the sport to the masses. Bring Arnold into the 2000's with current supp's and drugs and he would wreck everyone on stage hands down. The only thing Ronnie had on him was 1 contest win and modern day drugs, the GOAT this does not equal.
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    I got into bodybuilding because of Arnold so he is definitely GOAT for me.

    I mean lets get real, Arnold is bodybuilding. There are sports and athletes, and then there are legends. Mike Tyson, Lance Armstrong, Tiger Woods, Michael Schumacher, etc but their respective sports in the public awareness. Regardless if people follow or not these sports, they are aware of these champions.
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    Ronnie Coleman is the GOAT, stop mentioning other bodybuilders for the sake of being different.
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    Originally Posted by Delirium1337 View Post
    for me arnold was and still is GOAT

    ok ronnie have better physique thanks to advances in sport, but ask random
    person in street who is ronnie and they dont know

    ask them who is arnold and everyone will know (unless they live under a rock)

    arnold= reason why 99% of people i know bodybuild including me

    arnold promoted bodybuilding thanks to his charisma great body (also aestethic) and appearances in various media
    This popularity, of course is yielded through his acting and polical careers as well as his recent media hoopla. I would venture to say less than 5% of his noteriety amoungst the general populace is a result of his bodybuilding career. Not really the bet argument to use.
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    Originally Posted by xHylios55x View Post
    wat?

    if we agree to compare to today...why say Dorian and Haney? is today 1990? If 'today' were the case then everyone here knows Ronnie sh!ts on everyone as far as contests/conditioning/mass.

    IMO Arnold is and will always be the GOAT. Arnold changed BB forever...made it mainstream, brought understanding of the sport to the masses. Bring Arnold into the 2000's with current supp's and drugs and he would wreck everyone on stage hands down. The only thing Ronnie had on him was 1 contest win and modern day drugs, the GOAT this does not equal.
    Arnold didn't 'mainstream' bodybuilding. Granted, I wasn't around in the 70's but I'm certain you're overestimating the sports popularity a TON.

    The only thing Arnold mainstreamed was economic incompetency and adultery at its finest.
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