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    Who else is for "ObamaCare"?

    Anyone who is against it is either ignorant or has never had a serious illness/injury and is planning on never having one.

    I'm 20 years old and suffer from Crohn's disease, which has lead to frequent medical bills.

    My parents are pretty wealthy, we live in a 900k home and own a few others that range in price from 120k-200k that we rent out. All are paid off and my family cares 0 debt(No mortgage or credit card debit etc...) and we still find it hard to pay my medical bills. Hell my medicine alone is $900 every 3 months. Last year I was realitivly healthy, so I didn't have any extensive medical ordeals, but my total last year was over $2k(Medicine, blood tests, visits, colonscopies). This year, I'm already at 3k and just got a bill today for $1,800 for a stay due to kidney stones(Caused by Crohn's). In two weeks, I'm having major surgery that is should cost a lot. The only plus is, after this surgery, anything later this year will be 100% covered if needed(besides medicine).

    Now I ask you, how the **** am I suppose to afford all this if I was on my own? All these numbers are what we had to pay out of pocket with GOOD insurance. When I'm forced to get my own plan, I'm not going to have good insurance, so these numbers are going to be higher. The whole being covered under your parents plan and maybe public health care, would be a god send for people like me.
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    Sorry, but you are not entitled to anything.
    This country is broke and the last thing we need is to socialize healthcare and hurt the middle class more.

    Get a job that has good heath benefits. I didn't have health benefits for years but I didn't expect others to pay for my bills when I was sick with strep etc...

    Work for your benefits, don't demand it from others that work hard for their money and benefits.
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    Originally Posted by P51 View Post
    Anyone who is against it is either ignorant or has never had a serious illness/injury and is planning on never having one.

    I'm 20 years old and suffer from Crohn's disease, which has lead to frequent medical bills.

    My parents are pretty wealthy, we live in a 900k home and own a few others that range in price from 120k-200k that we rent out. All are paid off and my family cares 0 debt(No mortgage or credit card debit etc...) and we still find it hard to pay my medical bills. Hell my medicine alone is $900 every 3 months. Last year I was realitivly healthy, so I didn't have any extensive medical ordeals, but my total last year was over $2k(Medicine, blood tests, visits, colonscopies). This year, I'm already at 3k and just got a bill today for $1,800 for a stay due to kidney stones(Caused by Crohn's). In two weeks, I'm having major surgery that is should cost a lot. The only plus is, after this surgery, anything later this year will be 100% covered if needed(besides medicine).

    Now I ask you, how the **** am I suppose to afford all this if I was on my own? All these numbers are what we had to pay out of pocket with GOOD insurance. When I'm forced to get my own plan, I'm not going to have good insurance, so these numbers are going to be higher. The whole being covered under your parents plan and maybe public health care, would be a god send for people like me.
    You get a job with medical benefits. **** even starbucks has that.
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    Originally Posted by NorthernRaZ View Post
    GTFO


    Sorry, but you are not entitled to anything.
    This country is broke and the last thing we need is to socialize healthcare and hurt the middle class more.

    Get a job that has good heath benefits. I didn't have health benefits for years but I didn't expect others to pay for my bills when I was sick with strep etc...

    Work for your benefits, don't demand it from others that work hard for their money and benefits.
    In what world is Obamacare socialized medicine? You have absolutely no clue how "socialized" medicine works. Take your simple minded rhetoric elsewhere.
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    Originally Posted by Steak_n_Taters View Post
    You get a job with medical benefits. **** even starbucks has that.
    DING DING DING!!!! Glad someone else has common sense here
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    Originally Posted by DiseasedScrotum View Post
    In what world is Obamacare socialized medicine? You have absolutely no clue how "socialized" medicine works. Take your simple minded rhetoric elsewhere.
    LOL @ this clown!

    Explain it to me then

    Also, look up the word socialized.

    Edit: you're a Canadian - the same fools that voted for socialized health care then come to America for medical treatment. LOL!!!
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    Originally Posted by Steak_n_Taters View Post
    You get a job with medical benefits. **** even starbucks has that.
    Are you're a moron, or did you fail some schooling? Herp derp, my parents have amazing insurance, and I said they pay atleast 4k a month in bills for me out of pocket, not counting my $900 every three months for medicine. Thats 6-7k a year I have to fork out, on a good year. No 20 year old has 7k extra to throw around.
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    I agree OP. Look at Nordic countries, they live in a 100000000000x better society then America, and this is one of the reasons. Inb4 I get negs from some blind patriots that can't accept the truth.
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    I don't know. Get health insurance?

    Also - Sorry you have Crohn's (seriously sounds like it sucks balls), but I fail to see why I should be responsible for it.
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    DING DING DING!!!! Glad someone else has common sense here
    You obviously can't read either. May I suggest enrolling at your local CC and signing up for English 101.

    I said my parents pay 7k a year for me WITH insurance. herp derp, and thats a good year. How the hell am I going to afford that at 20 years old?
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    Are you're a moron, or did you fail some schooling? Herp derp, my parents have amazing insurance, and I said they pay atleast 4k a month in bills for me out of pocket, not counting my $900 every three months for medicine. Thats 6-7k a year I have to fork out, on a good year. No 20 year old has 7k extra to throw around.
    Then you are SOL. We're not here to make sure you get what you want. Life is tough. You have to work for what you need.

    Why is this so complicated?
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    I agree OP. Look at Nordic countries, they live in a 100000000000x better society then America, and this is one of the reasons. Inb4 I get negs from some blind patriots that can't accept the truth.
    Maybe if we airlifted Mexico to be neighbors with Norway we would find out how well that system works then.
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    I don't know. Get health insurance?
    I swear no one in this damn topic can read. No wonder the rest of the world makes fun of us. My parents pay 7k a year for my WITH insurance.


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    Obama care won't necessarily change your problem. What you want is free state run healthcare. What Obama put out there is insurance reform with welfare programs to help people in poverty afford it.

    Also, young healthy people are going to get ****ed. Is that fair for them, is it fair that they have to offset the cost for you? We need to find ways to bring down the cost of healthcare, not a way to spread the cost around. Just my opinion
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    What makes you think you have a right to my (or anyone else's) income? Healthcare costs money. I don't demand you pay for my stuff, so fcuk off. Besides, if government increases access and decreases healthcare payments.. where are the new doctors going to come from? ObamaCare will inevatibly lead to rationing. YOU are the ignorant one if you don't understand this simple economic reality.
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    Anyone who is against it is either ignorant or has never had a serious illness/injury and is planning on never having one.

    I'm 20 years old and suffer from Crohn's disease, which has lead to frequent medical bills.

    My parents are pretty wealthy, we live in a 900k home and own a few others that range in price from 120k-200k that we rent out. All are paid off and my family cares 0 debt(No mortgage or credit card debit etc...) and we still find it hard to pay my medical bills. Hell my medicine alone is $900 every 3 months. Last year I was realitivly healthy, so I didn't have any extensive medical ordeals, but my total last year was over $2k(Medicine, blood tests, visits, colonscopies). This year, I'm already at 3k and just got a bill today for $1,800 for a stay due to kidney stones(Caused by Crohn's). In two weeks, I'm having major surgery that is should cost a lot. The only plus is, after this surgery, anything later this year will be 100% covered if needed(besides medicine).

    Now I ask you, how the **** am I suppose to afford all this if I was on my own? All these numbers are what we had to pay out of pocket with GOOD insurance. When I'm forced to get my own plan, I'm not going to have good insurance, so these numbers are going to be higher. The whole being covered under your parents plan and maybe public health care, would be a god send for people like me.
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    Originally Posted by P51 View Post
    You obviously can't read either. May I suggest enrolling at your local CC and signing up for English 101.

    I said my parents pay 7k a year for me WITH insurance. herp derp, and thats a good year. How the hell am I going to afford that at 20 years old?
    That's not my problem, silly. Don't steal my money. I need it to survive too.

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    Originally Posted by NorthernRaZ View Post
    Then you are SOL. We're not here to make sure you get what you want. Life is tough. You have to work for what you need.

    Why is this so complicated?
    So whats OP's other option? Die Tough Sh*t? I don't mind a bit of my taxes covering OP's serious condition. This is what the fuk is wrong with most Americans. They don't give a fuk about there fellow man.
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    Then you are SOL. We're not here to make sure you get what you want. Life is tough. You have to work for what you need.

    Why is this so complicated?
    I don't know, why is reading so hard for you? I know 2nd graders with better reading comprehension.

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    Are you're a moron, or did you fail some schooling? Herp derp, my parents have amazing insurance, and I said they pay atleast 4k a month in bills for me out of pocket, not counting my $900 every three months for medicine. Thats 6-7k a year I have to fork out, on a good year. No 20 year old has 7k extra to throw around.
    Herpidy derpity you get a good job so you can afford it. If you can't afford it you get on a payment plan.
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    I agree OP. Look at Nordic countries, they live in a 100000000000x better society then America, and this is one of the reasons. Inb4 I get negs from some blind patriots that can't accept the truth.
    LOL Nordic countries are going to debt. They can't continue it forever.

    Case in point: Portugal, Greece, France, etc.

    Question-if socialism works so well, then why are all the European countries going broke and their populations voting towards the right now?
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    lmfao at 0 understanding of economics, the national deficit, and how ultimately excessive government spending will destroy this country.
    It's not even economics anymore, it's impossible getting out of this debt.

    Brb conservatives (which are almost 90% straight up retards) want to spend more for war then education. Wtf is that?
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    Originally Posted by P51 View Post
    You obviously can't read either. May I suggest enrolling at your local CC and signing up for English 101.

    I said my parents pay 7k a year for me WITH insurance. herp derp, and thats a good year. How the hell am I going to afford that at 20 years old?
    surely, gov't run health care will drive down costs. along with everything else the gov't controls the prices decrease.





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    IF we didn't already havea such a mess of a medical system, I'm sure we would've seen a lot of private charities help a lot more people who truly can't afford it.

    surely, gov't run health care will drive down costs. along with everything else the gov't controls the prices decrease.





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    It's not even economics anymore, it's impossible getting out of this debt.

    Brb conservatives (which are almost 90% straight up retards) want to spend more for war then education. Wtf is that?
    Because the problems with education aren't from money. Ajusted for inflation, we are spending more for education and quality is going down. Because we granted an education monopoly, costs just keep going up. Teachers and beaureaucrats just keep getting paid more and more. Incompetent teachers can't get fired.
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    Originally Posted by bking10 View Post
    Obama care won't necessarily change your problem. What you want is free state run healthcare. What Obama put out there is insurance reform with welfare programs to help people in poverty afford it.

    Also, young healthy people are going to get ****ed. Is that fair for them, is it fair that they have to offset the cost for you? We need to find ways to bring down the cost of healthcare, not a way to spread the cost around. Just my opinion
    This isn't about whats fair. Its not fair I have an illness.

    Yes it will help, even in the short term, being able to stay with my parents insurance until 25 will save me tons of money.
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    op one of my ****ing back injections alone costs 8k so stop complaining you dumb ****. be glad your parents have money and shut the **** up. I would have thought they would have taught you something but obviously they didnt...

    I went to mayo clinic, cost me 15k for 1 week not including plane tickets or hotels. I am going there for pain rehab center its going to cost around 20k+ but you don't see me complaining because my parents SAVE THEIR MONEY for **** like this. LEARN TO SAVE YOUR ****ING MONEY and no medical costs are a problem.
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    I love it when retarded republi***s assume that democrats are the only ones who impose taxes. If you are a republican, that's fine. I respect a lot of republican/conservative views. But if you are a republican solely because "people should work moar/Obama is taxing too much" then you are everything that is wrong with this world and I hate you. Please, kill yourself.
    Originally Posted by JB05 View Post
    What makes you think you have a right to my (or anyone else's) income? Healthcare costs money. I don't demand you pay for my stuff, so fcuk off. Besides, if government increases access and decreases healthcare payments.. where are the new doctors going to come from? ObamaCare will inevatibly lead to rationing. YOU are the ignorant one if you don't understand this simple economic reality.
    This is what I was talking about. EVERYTHING costs money. And the government DOES have a right to EVERYONE'S income. Please, do us all a favor and kill yourself. kthanksbai
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