**Official Song of Ice and Fire Thread (SPOILERS)**

[vitriol]

Really looking forward to the Red Wedding too x3 how do you think they'll handle it? =)

I'm guessing they will handle like they've handled the series so far... a complete LACK OF DIREWOLVES.. I'll bet all my reps there will be no "headswaps" (PETA would most likely unleash hell at that scene lol)

but srsly.. are animal handlers/trainers THAT expensive?? only reason i can think HBO has basically removed the direwolves from the series (where was Summer during the wildling scene this episode??).. and we've seen Ghost, what once? for a total of 1second at mole town?

Can't wait to see Gregor and Oberyn obliterate each other.

for sure.. let's hope they handle the murderous bisexual red viper better than they did Renly/Loras..

[TheStender]

I'm guessing they will handle like they've handled the series so far... a complete LACK OF DIREWOLVES.. I'll bet all my reps there will be no "headswaps" (PETA would most likely unleash hell at that scene lol)

but srsly.. are animal handlers/trainers THAT expensive?? only reason i can think HBO has basically removed the direwolves from the series (where was Summer during the wildling scene this episode??).. and we've seen Ghost, what once? for a total of 1second at mole town

Nah man, we saw Ghost for another second when he got on top the guy who was going to hurt Sam no matter what Jon said.

[Shangius]

I love how HBO can devote two scenes to Theon and his whore but only 5 minutes total of direwolves. What the ****

So I am assuming that Benjin Stark is dead now??

Some think he's coldhands from Storm of Swords.

[disphugginflip]

rofl

get out while you still can... before we mention the red wedding..

Just got through reading that last night. I was raging then, and im still raging now.

I heard about it early in the official thread. Thinking it had something to do with Joffery and Margaery's wedding. Because Joffery and Cersei are fawking evil and I could see it happening then. It wasn't until the beginning of it did I realize "Holy shyt! THIS is the Red Wedding?!?"

Im pissed, it seems the bad guys are winning, and I can't see any hope for the remaining "good" characters to win.

[TheStender]

I love how HBO can devote two scenes to Theon and his whore but only 5 minutes total of direwolves. What the ****

She needed to show him her vagina one last time.

Much more important than the direwolves.

[vitriol]

She needed to show him her vagina one last time.

Much more important than the direwolves.

rofl

tits n ass are cheap.. filming wolves isn't i guess

"so, i hear CGI dragons are pretty expensive.. lets just make dany show her vag when she walks out of the funeral pyre instead"

[TopsecretWaffle]

I'm thinking that the whore is going to turn out to be shae

[Goby]

rofl

tits n ass are cheap.. filming wolves isn't i guess

"so, i hear CGI dragons are pretty expensive.. lets just make dany show her vag when she walks out of the funeral pyre instead"

Watch the writers take a shift from the books and the Dragons die shocking readers like the Red Wedding did.

[TheStender]

I'm thinking that the whore is going to turn out to be shae

Interesting. I think you could be right.

Especially after Episode 7 when she's receiving lessons in making the man feel good about himself.



And after watching Drogo's speech, I really wish he had gotten all his boys together and ran through the Seven Kingdoms.

[JUSA]

Im pissed, it seems the bad guys are winning, and I can't see any hope for the remaining "good" characters to win.

I thought that at one point, too, but then I kind of realized at some point Daenerys is going to show up and destroy everyone and everything in her path, with the possible exception of Jon Snow, so it probably won't matter in the end.

[mainguy]

Idk, he was pretty much what I thought of in the books. Maybe a touch too doesheevenlift.

The casting has been great otherwise. Tyrion and Jaime were perfectly cast imo.

100% agree. I think Tyrion is absolutely superb, one of the most true to book performances I've ever witnessed. He has the sharp mocking wit down to a tee.

Greyjoy and Robb are a bit off for me, however. They just don't seem strong enough, maybe that's how they're intended to be in the show.

[nameplate]

100% agree. I think Tyrion is absolutely superb, one of the most true to book performances I've ever witnessed. He has the sharp mocking wit down to a tee.

Greyjoy and Robb are a bit off for me, however. They just don't seem strong enough, maybe that's how they're intended to be in the show.

The casting of Greyjoy bothers me... he looks like a young Mick Jagger and that is all I see when he has a scene.

[JUSA]

The casting of Greyjoy bothers me... he looks like a young Mick Jagger and that is all I see when he has a scene.

He's far from likable in the books, quite honestly almost a comedy-character (as funny as razing Winterfell can be, I guess). He's getting a lot of airtime for as minor a player as he is.

GHOST makes his third (?) appearance next week, at least. note to producers who aren't reading this: Just get a white German Shepherd Dog for fuks sake to play the part if you can't handle the ones they got.

[Shangius]

I thought that at one point, too, but then I kind of realized at some point Daenerys is going to show up and destroy everyone and everything in her path, with the possible exception of Jon Snow, so it probably won't matter in the end.

Let's be honest. It's never gonna turn out how we think it's gonna turn out. Hence, why the series is so great.

[A-r-a]

I'm guessing they will handle like they've handled the series so far... a complete LACK OF DIREWOLVES.. I'll bet all my reps there will be no "headswaps" (PETA would most likely unleash hell at that scene lol)

but srsly.. are animal handlers/trainers THAT expensive?? only reason i can think HBO has basically removed the direwolves from the series (where was Summer during the wildling scene this episode??).. and we've seen Ghost, what once? for a total of 1second at mole town?



for sure.. let's hope they handle the murderous bisexual red viper better than they did Renly/Loras..

in that scene in ep 7, when Jon gets the wight (spl?) hand from ghost, he seems afraid. I can't help think that maybe the doggies on set are behaving badly and the actual actor was scurred of the dog. Anyone else?

[StoneColdMC]

I really need to try and find these episodes online.

Hopefully the TV show can revitalize the series for me. After reading A Feast for Crows, I started to quickly lose interest in the series. Too many of the more interesting characters and their stories were being saved up for A Dance With Dragons. Things became really interesting at the end, but it almost wasn't worth the hundreds of pages of reading about Brienne and other uninteresting characters.

[MUFC]

in that scene in ep 7, when Jon gets the wight (spl?) hand from ghost, he seems afraid. I can't help think that maybe the doggies on set are behaving badly and the actual actor was scurred of the dog. Anyone else?

I doubt it.


The scene with Syrio fighting off guards will be epic. The scene when the dragons hatch will be even better.

Apparently GRRM wrote all of episode 8. Interested to see how it goes.

[Ice-9]

I thought that at one point, too, but then I kind of realized at some point Daenerys is going to show up and destroy everyone and everything in her path, with the possible exception of Jon Snow, so it probably won't matter in the end.

Popular consensus is that Jon is really a Targaryan (Son of Rhaegar Targaryan and Lyanna Stark), and will end up on the Iron Throne by the end of the series.
There's a bit of evidence to back his lineage up, so will be interesting to see if that's the direction Martin chooses to go.

Dany has become annoying to read about in her recent chapters. Hopefully Tyrion shows up relatively soon to spice her chapters up a bit.

[TheStender]

Dany will die before the end of the series.
Popular consensus is that Jon is really a Targaryan (Son of Rhaegar Targaryan and Lyanna Stark), and will end up on the Iron Throne by the end of the series.

Jon will marry Dany, and the Targaryan bloodline will be together again.

[Ice-9]

Jon will marry Dany, and the Targaryan bloodline will be together again.

Is way too cliche' of an ending for Martin's writing style.
With that said, can't think of a decent match for Jon aside from the obvious Dany pick (Arianne Martell? Asha Greyjoy? Sansa Stark(weird)?)

[Shangius]

Is way too cliche' of an ending for Martin's writing style.
With that said, can't think of a decent match for Jon aside from Dany (Arianne Martell? Asha Greyjoy?)

Maybe Jon keeps his oath to not marry and supports Dany just because she is his blood?

Dany will probably marry Victarion Greyjoy and either Tyrion or Oberyn Martell.

[Ice-9]

Maybe Jon keeps his oath to not marry and supports Dany just because she is his blood?

Dany will probably marry Victarion Greyjoy and either Tyrion or Oberyn Martell.

Jon is definitely one of the three heads of the dragon. Dany will be the second. Third...?????
Tyrian will likely end up becoming an advisor to Dany, and possibly even helping her train the dragons (someone has to). He'd be my guess at the third dragon rider.

[thesims]

I agree... Tyrion, Eddard and Jaime are awesome. Not quite satisfied with the actors for Catelyn (looks to old!) Bran and Daenerys.

I forgot how Ned basically gets himself killed. It's fine to be honorable, but he takes it too far and thinks that everyone else will be just as honorable as he is.

I'm actually curious to see how they handle Eddard Stark's execution. Yesterday I read a post on the ASOIAF forums, explaining how Ned is not truly dead. When he confesses, he's described as standing on a podium far from the crowd, with a voice "so thin and weak [Arya] could scarcely make him out." In other words, a fake Eddard confessed to treason.

http: //asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/19237-eddard-lives/

If the theory is true, then we probably won't see Sean Bean up close, to avoid revealing Eddard isn't dead. I'm crossing my fingers because a returning Ned POV would be awesome!

Shangius: Oberyn Martell... is that the Red Viper? Not very familiar with Dorne houses.

Anyway first post on the BB.com forums, looking forward to discussing the next GoT episodes with you guys!

[vancitypump]

Shangius: Oberyn Martell... is that the Red Viper? Not very familiar with Dorne houses.

he means the son, not oberyn (trystan or something)

[thesims]

he means the son, not oberyn (trystan or something)

Oh thanks, for a sec I thought Thoros had brought someone else to life. Although Oberyn probably wouldn't look very good with his pulverized face, at least Beric is only missing an eye...

As for the concerns about the headswap (during the Red Wedding) I don't think it'll be much of an issue, since it wasn't actually depicted in A Storm of Swords, but rather revealed by some minor character. Anyway they've got plenty of time to think about it if it really is one season per book. Hopefully we will get to see direwolves a lil more often in the meantime, especially while Jon is accross the Wall.

[Shangius]

he means the son, not oberyn (trystan or something)

Yeah my bad. I always get the Martells confused. I forgot Oberyn was the Red Viper.

But yeah, Quentyn got sent to find Dany so they could help avenge Elia's death.

[vitriol]

Popular consensus is that Jon is really a Targaryan (Son of Rhaegar Targaryan and Lyanna Stark), and will end up on the Iron Throne by the end of the series.
There's a bit of evidence to back his lineage up, so will be interesting to see if that's the direction Martin chooses to go.

Dany has become annoying to read about in her recent chapters. Hopefully Tyrion shows up relatively soon to spice her chapters up a bit.

The Jon is a Targaryen theory is definitely one of the more interesting ideas floating around.. Certainly explains Ned's huge aversion to Robert's desire to wipe every Targaryen off the face of the earth.

With Stannis & Melisandre on the wall with Jon, we could see sh*t getting very real IF his lineage is confirmed

Just makes me more and more excited for "a dance" to come out..

[JUSA]

Jon will marry Dany, and the Targaryan bloodline will be together again.

^ what I think will happen, too.

Seeing as Targaryians aren't shy about marrying brother/sister, I suppose an Aunt/Nephew joining won't be such a bad thing. Did Aeryes (? the Mad King) marry his sister or one of the Martels? I gotta wonder how polluted that blood-line is.

[Brad_Pitt]

Jon will fight Dany in a battle of Dragon vs Wolves.

In the heat of the fight, Dany will scorch Jon with fire but nothing will happen because he is the dragon by blood. She will be stunned by the realization. Jon, In Dany's moment of shock will seize the advantage and plunge his sword into her heart and decapitate her samurai style. He will then sit on the throne bloodied surrounded by dead dire wolves, dragons and Dany, face in palm and the last word of the novel shall be.

"He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire"

FOCKIN EPIC!

[JUSA]

Jon is definitely one of the three heads of the dragon. Dany will be the second. Third...?????
Tyrian will likely end up becoming an advisor to Dany, and possibly even helping her train the dragons (someone has to). He'd be my guess at the third dragon rider.

Bran. He was told in a dream he would one day fly, Tyrion made him a saddle to ride horses already, etc...