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    Discretionary Calorie Allowance - What does it mean?

    The purpose of this thread is to explain the dietary approach of Discretionary Calorie Allowance (which will now be referred to as DCA). This thread was formally the IIFYM – What does it mean? sticky and has since been edited by the OP with the help of some kind moderators to something more appropriate as to stop any further confusion.

    IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macros) is simply an acronym commonly referring to the notion that no significant impacts on body composition will result if macronutrients are consistent, regardless of food choices. Now, of course diet quality (consuming a predominance of whole and minimally refined foods) is important for long-term health, so don't misconstrue this as a green light to eat whatever junk you want to fulfill your macro targets.

    e.g. 200g protein, 300g carbs and 80g fats will produce the same physique no matter what foods are eaten to achieve those numbers.

    There’s no diet, no beliefs, no fads. If you really need more of an explanation or information, check out the myriad of videos on YouTube or posts on the forums.


    DCA Discretionary Calorie Allowance


    Quick explanation:

    The phrase DCA refers to meeting the individual macronutrient needs relevant to one's goals and then filling the remaining calories with foods of personal preference. Keep in mind that this should not be misconstrued as a dismissal of the importance of meeting micronutrient requirements (this should be a given, but I'll state it here explicitly to prevent any false assumptions).

    Quick example:

    -200lb man at 20% body fat wants to lose weight

    -Maintenance calories: 3000

    -Calories to cut: 2400

    -1.5g protein per lb/LBM: (1.5 * 160) 240g

    -0.45g fat per lb/BW: (200 * 0.45) 90g

    -Calories from fats + protein minimums: (240 * 4) + (90 * 9) = 1770

    -Calories from reaching minimums taken from calories to cut: (2400 - 1770) 630

    -He has 630 kcal left to fill with whatever foods he chooses and still lose weight as a result of remaining in a calorie deficit.

    Why DCA?

    There are many different approaches to getting your macronutrients in. DCA is a preference I personally believe suits people who have a more unpredictable lifestyle and do not always know what they’re going to be eating.

    If you’re the type of person who is invited out to restaurants a lot, or big family dinners, and need to eyeball portion sizes/food choices but still want to achieve in the gym, DCA is a great choice.

    Life is full of little surprises and on those nights where your friend is back in town to visit and wants some drinks, or your wife/parents/grandparents/whatever have just surprised you with your favourite home-cooked meal, DCA means you’ll be on par with your fat/protein minimum intake required for optimal performance in the gym, with the added benefit of a couple hundred spare calories in the tank to sit back and have a good time without freaking out about messing up your progress.

    This is great because you’re less likely to adopt the attitude “Oh well my diet is messed up anyway, might as well go crazy” because you’ve actually caused minimal (if at all) impact on your diet.

    DCA works on the basis that because you’re reaching the fundamental requirement/factor of gaining/losing weight – that being a calorie surplus or deficit depending on your goals – what you do, whatever macros you distribute with those discretionary calories, will have a minimal impact on your overall progress and physique.

    Tips (some are general and do not specifically pertain to DCA):

    -Try to get most of your macros from whole foods. They are high in micronutrients needed to maintain overall health.

    -Tailor your meals to suit your individual preference, tolerance, and goals. For example, some might prefer 6 meals a day while others prefer 3 - both are valid, as long as individual needs are met.

    -Contrary to traditional belief, eating smaller, more frequent meals does not have an inherent metabolic advantage over the same diet consumed via larger, less frequent meals.

    -There is no universal macro or calorie breakdown you should be eating pre and/or post-workout. Total daily micronutrient, macronutrient, and calorie intake relevant to your goal(s) is far more important than specific timing or distribution through the day.

    Useful links:

    http://www.trainwithmeonline.com/arc...y_calories.asp
    http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...-clean-eating/

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    UPDATE

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    Check out this video tutorial:


    The video appears to finish abruptly, that's because it cuts off about 30 seconds for some reason - mainly me wrapping things up - but all the important info is there.

    In this video I do refer to it as IIFYM, because it is outdated, but what I am demonstrating is DCA.

    Best viewing is 480p full screen.

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    Originally Posted by Melamed View Post
    Oh another thing I think this post should be in your useful links:
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    Definitely added, thanks! I'll keep editing any new ones people have for me in while I can. When I cannot, I'll save up a bunch and PM a lovely mod to edit it for me.
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    IIFYM should not be recommended to those new to proper nutrition. It is an intermediate diet for those who already have a good grasp on solid nutritional concepts.

    It is too easy for someone to say "I'm going to do IIFYM" and just eat a rubbish diet missing the basic staples because they were told to just fit a diet to their macro goals. i.e. 5 shakes a day for protein and icecream for carbs (all sugar) and fats, macros fitted!

    The term "If It Fits Your Macros" really needs about 10 "but"s after it. The concept of the diet is great, but the name is stupid and deceptive.
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    IIFYM should not be recommended to those new to proper nutrition. It is an intermediate diet for those who already have a good grasp on solid nutritional concepts.

    It is too easy for someone to say "I'm going to do IIFYM" and just eat a rubbish diet missing the basic staples because they were told to just fit a diet to their macro goals. i.e. 5 shakes a day for protein and icecream for carbs (all sugar) and fats, macros fitted!

    The term "If It Fits Your Macros" really needs about 10 "but"s after it. The concept of the diet is great, but the name is stupid and deceptive.
    I wouldn't really call it a diet...
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    Originally Posted by Christiffer View Post
    I wouldn't really call it a diet...
    Me neither, rather a way to structure your own diet.

    The way I see it, someone who has their own definitions of 'clean' and 'dirty' foods would split them into 2 groups and structure a diet out of the 'clean' ones.

    Someone with an IIFYMesque approach would split them into 3 groups - protein, fat and preferences - and then structure a diet from the protein and fats groups to meet requirements before filling the rest with foods they crave on a regular basis or just grew up eating and love to have. That's what I do anyway.

    The biggest problem for me when I first started dieting without knowing the IIFYM approach was that I would structure a diet out of the defined 'clean' food group and follow that diet until it go so monotonously depressing that I would binge and feel guilty about it for days (usually cut to a severe deficit to try and compensate, which would just start the cycle again). I owe much of the IIFYM approach to not only new physical appearance, but also my psychological disposition with food.
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    Originally Posted by dat View Post
    IIFYM should not be recommended to those new to proper nutrition. It is an intermediate diet for those who already have a good grasp on solid nutritional concepts.

    It is too easy for someone to say "I'm going to do IIFYM" and just eat a rubbish diet missing the basic staples because they were told to just fit a diet to their macro goals. i.e. 5 shakes a day for protein and icecream for carbs (all sugar) and fats, macros fitted!

    The term "If It Fits Your Macros" really needs about 10 "but"s after it. The concept of the diet is great, but the name is stupid and deceptive.
    dat - I actually am starting to believe it can/should be recommended to newbies. The "TIPS" posted in the OP's post stated you should work to get your macro's from whole foods as much as possible (sorry I'm paraphrasing here). I have always known how to count calories and work in a deficit or surplus, but honestly was somewhat spinning my wheels.

    Using some common sense and the tools provided in this forum and the net...a person can learn - from the start - to properly count macros and make inteligent eating decisions throughout the day/week. Why not learn to do that from the start instead of building up walls and potentially uneccesary habits in your nutrition.

    I will give you a good example. I ran out of whey a few weeks ago and didn't have enough for my PWO shake...I literally freaked. This maybe an extreme example, but I honestly know a lot of people who are hung up on nutrient timing. Spending several hours reading and studying the evidence I know better now. I rushed out and ordered $xxx of protein when I didn't need to for that purpose.

    I understand what you are saying, but I am slowly coming to the reality that I want to learn/live/eat/whatever efficiently. I'm sold on the fact that meeting daily macro goals is the key. What harm can it do to educate and encourage people to do this from the start.

    All of that said, I appreciate the discussions we can all have from this. Thanks OP for putting this together. I really see where so many people are struggling with this...I had to take a deep breath myself.
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    Originally Posted by dat View Post
    IIFYM should not be recommended to those new to proper nutrition. It is an intermediate diet for those who already have a good grasp on solid nutritional concepts.

    It is too easy for someone to say "I'm going to do IIFYM" and just eat a rubbish diet missing the basic staples because they were told to just fit a diet to their macro goals. i.e. 5 shakes a day for protein and icecream for carbs (all sugar) and fats, macros fitted!

    The term "If It Fits Your Macros" really needs about 10 "but"s after it. The concept of the diet is great, but the name is stupid and deceptive.
    The OP already said have the diet revolve around wholesome foods (80%) and the other 20% can be whatever you want.

    I don't think anyone would do the first place, because if I did I'd be more starving than an Ethiopian.
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    I'm so proud.
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    Ima call you the OG-TRIPLE-OG of the IIFYM crew!
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