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    Anyone ever did stronglifts 5x5?

    So I've been doing a regular bb split for a while and I don't really see progress, so wondering if anyone who did stronglifts 5x5 before can tell me about their progress or anything, like if you gained mass from it etc.
    I wanna gain mass in my chest arms traps, and legs (pretty much i wanna gain mass in general)

    stronglifts 5x5 composes of
    lifting 3 times a week, doing 5 reps 5 sets of each exercise, add 2.5lbs to each side every next exercise
    squat, bench, inverted rows, push ups and crunches on monday,
    squat, overhead press, deadlift, pull up and prone bridges on wednesday
    squat, bench, inverted rows, push ups and crunches on friday

    and then reverse the order for the next week, so 2x deadlifts the next week instead of doing bench twice a week

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    for programs like stronglifts, if you wanna gain mass the most important thing is your diet. eat alot !
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    Originally Posted by potm View Post
    for programs like stronglifts, if you wanna gain mass the most important thing is your diet. eat alot !
    How much would alot be for a 15 yr old at 175ish lbs.?
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    stronglifts 5x5 looks like a great program. but i choose madcows 5x5 insteaed which is very similar but its madcows so its more popular and proven to work.
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    stronglifts 5x5 looks like a great program. but i choose madcows 5x5 insteaed which is very similar but its madcows so its more popular and proven to work.
    ah, when doing the madcows 5x5 did most of the weight gain go to your lower body?
    did you get any gains in your arms/traps?
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    at 175 u wanna aim somewhere around 3500 calories. once u start eating u have to make sure to adjust up or down depending on weather your gaining too much/too little
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    I started this, but 5X5 was to hard for me at the stage I was at, so I switched it to 3x5 with accessory exercises.

    Eg.

    A
    -Squat
    -Bench
    -Barbell rows
    3x5
    -shrugs
    -bicep isolation
    -Tricep isolation
    3x8-20

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    -DL (Only 1x5)
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    3x5
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    Originally Posted by peanut-butter View Post
    I started this, but 5X5 was to hard for me at the stage I was at, so I switched it to 3x5 with accessory exercises.

    Eg.

    A
    -Squat
    -Bench
    -Barbell rows
    3x5
    -shrugs
    -bicep isolation
    -Tricep isolation
    3x8-20

    B
    -Squat
    -DL (Only 1x5)
    -OHP
    3x5
    -Chins
    -Forarm isolation
    3x8-15
    thanks, do you switch between a and b each week?
    like
    week 1
    monday: A
    wed: B
    Friday: A

    week 2
    monday: B
    wed: A
    friday: B

    week 3
    same as week 1
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    Originally Posted by Davidn28 View Post
    thanks, do you switch between a and b each week?
    like
    week 1
    monday: A
    wed: B
    Friday: A

    week 2
    monday: B
    wed: A
    friday: B

    week 3
    same as week 1
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    Originally Posted by Davidn28 View Post
    ah, when doing the madcows 5x5 did most of the weight gain go to your lower body?
    did you get any gains in your arms/traps?
    i got gains on my whole body, arms not so much and legs quite a bit. traps had good growth.
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    I liked it, it was good fun, although you need to have good form and flexibility for squats since you'll be doing them so often.

    Also, Mehdi (the guy who runs it) is an utter ashole. Fcker deleted my posts from the ******** fan page and has blocked me from writing anything at all on it just because I disagreed with his running of the site. That, and he parrots 5x5 as if it's an original routine and almost a gimmick (*pic*; PROOF that the 5x5 method WORKS!) If you can get past his sometimes annoying attitude, it's all gravy.
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    Originally Posted by StylesOfBeyond View Post
    I liked it, it was good fun, although you need to have good form and flexibility for squats since you'll be doing them so often.

    Also, Mehdi (the guy who runs it) is an utter ashole. Fcker deleted my posts from the ******** fan page and has blocked me from writing anything at all on it just because I disagreed with his running of the site. That, and he parrots 5x5 as if it's an original routine and almost a gimmick (*pic*; PROOF that the 5x5 method WORKS!) If you can get past his sometimes annoying attitude, it's all gravy.
    what did you actually say?
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    Originally Posted by StylesOfBeyond View Post
    I liked it, it was good fun, although you need to have good form and flexibility for squats since you'll be doing them so often.

    Also, Mehdi (the guy who runs it) is an utter ashole. Fcker deleted my posts from the ******** fan page and has blocked me from writing anything at all on it just because I disagreed with his running of the site. That, and he parrots 5x5 as if it's an original routine and almost a gimmick (*pic*; PROOF that the 5x5 method WORKS!) If you can get past his sometimes annoying attitude, it's all gravy.
    When I read it he almost said something to the effect of "do StrongLifts5x5 or StartingStrength or whatever doesn't really matter do my program if you want accesory exercises like chinups and pushups and such. Squat, deadlift and bench that is primary." Even Rippetoe the author of StartingStrength says his program is nothing new and fancy, quite the opposite really, a tested classic that works and was written by popular demand.
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    what did you actually say?
    Mehdi had recently closed down the forum to newcomers, with people having to pay to have membership if they want to join. The idea was that he was doing this to 'keep the trolls out.'

    1st comment was something along the lines of this:

    I like the group, I like the routine, but this is unnecessary. People ignore the trolls, doing this won't keep them out if they WANt to troll, people ignore them anyways. A while back you said you could have advertisement banners on the home site and that would get you money, we'd prefer it to being charged for membership. If you want to make money out of the site, just admit it, as we can't blame you, but no one believes this is for reasons of efficiency.
    It got a lot of likes as a lot of people were posting similar stuff. The ratio of likers to haters on this particular decision was probably 1:4, no joke. I commented on another person's comment about what he'd done, more or less the same as my first post. Then I came back and noticed that all of the comments saying how we didn't like what was happening were gone. ALL of them. The gist of the 2nd comment:

    Wow, deleting comments just because you don't like them? This is about the SL community, we're saying what we think, I don't understand why you're doing this. I'm not going to bother using the forums anymore, but you could at least not censor what we say here.
    Day after that, I can't make posts or comment on anything, all I can do is just view the pages and stuff. My comments were in the general gist of the above, there was no insults or anything, and yet he deleted mine and dozens of other comments. He's cultivated a squat or die mentality amongst a lot of people and they almost universally shun lifting to look better, as Mehdi's posts always infer.

    He only likes people who agree with what he says, as was evident back when I used the forums. Anyone who disagreed with what he/ the majority thought (they learned from him) in threads regarding relationships, ethics, etc was shot down. It's great what he's done with the site and the routine, but I don't like how he treats the people that use his stuff. He can make a business out of it, he can have a certain ethical code taught on his site, but it's rude and arrogant when people who think differently are pushed aside.

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    Originally Posted by kurent View Post
    When I read it he almost said something to the effect of "do StrongLifts5x5 or StartingStrength or whatever doesn't really matter do my program if you want accesory exercises like chinups and pushups and such. Squat, deadlift and bench that is primary." Even Rippetoe the author of StartingStrength says his program is nothing new and fancy, quite the opposite really, a tested classic that works and was written by popular demand.
    I agree, it's just that his site/ ******** page comes across as some kind of infomercial in terms of what they say regarding the routine. There are constant updates about strong SL members and he'll caption a video or end it with a phrase like "PROOF that Stronglifts method WORKS!" which comes across as very gimmicky and as if he feels he has something to prove to convince others to follow the routine. It works, we know it does, and yet he constantly reminds the people doing it, as if they're naive children that need to be reminded or something. Maybe it says something about the majority of the clientèle if they need this constant approval, I don't know, but something about it is quite irritating. We know it works. Move on.

    To end it though, I do appreciate the work he's done, I love the site and the routine and people who do it are great.
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    This has been a real eye opener to Medhi's character and his narrow mindedness.
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    Originally Posted by 7399martyn View Post
    This has been a real eye opener to Medhi's character and his narrow mindedness.
    Sarcasm? Kinda bluntly put, makes me think it is.
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    now why would i be sarcastic?
    Mehdi should be mature enough to realise that he does not know everything and should be open minded to new ideas. looks like he needs to grow up.
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    workouts with low reps, your mainly gaining strength instead of size. however anything is possible with proper nutrition. if you eat a lot more and do it clean, you will for sure see some good mass gains; but not so much as a high rep workout program
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    now why would i be sarcastic?
    Mehdi should be mature enough to realise that he does not know everything and should be open minded to new ideas. looks like he needs to grow up.
    Ah, that's cool. It just seemed that, due to it being so blunt and short, it could have been a sarcastic post, down to interpretation and all.

    And I agree. Like I said, he's done a great thing by setting up this routine, the site, and putting it out there for people to use, not to mention the motivation he gives, but he can still be quite egotistical about it all.
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    workouts with low reps, your mainly gaining strength instead of size. however anything is possible with proper nutrition. if you eat a lot more and do it clean, you will for sure see some good mass gains; but not so much as a high rep workout program
    How is eating clean going to promote more mass gains?

    In order to gain decent size, he will need to consume a caloric surplus with progressive overload. Rep ranges aren't a big deal.
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