Supplements=bad for you??

[Tbett418]

Ive been being told by some people that taking supplements I'd bad for you and I should stop. As far as a multi and fish oil everyone says those are good but then most say the whey protein and creatine are bad to take.

So can they be bad? Or are these just ignorant people when it comes to these?

Also one said since its whey isolate it's ok cuz that's the good kind so is there a bad type of protein/whey??

[jabmaster2]

No neither whey or creatine is bad for you. You friends are idiots.

Whey isolate is no better for u then whey concetrate. Just may help if your lactose intolerant. Again get smarter friends

[wakingmalice]

yes the bad type of whey protein is anything with protein in it. You see, you don't want protein. Protein turns to muscle which in turn turns to fat. We don't want that, now do we.




The lack of knowledge among today's youth and population as a whole is astounding. Look through the stickies bud.

[notoriousbeast]

your friends sound extremely educated on the subject

[LouB2010]

whey is derived from milk...it's actually the better part of milk...so a better amino acid profile w/o the fat & added cals...

Ive been being told by some people that taking supplements I'd bad for you and I should stop. As far as a multi and fish oil everyone says those are good but then most say the whey protein and creatine are bad to take.

So can they be bad? Or are these just ignorant people when it comes to these?

Also one said since its whey isolate it's ok cuz that's the good kind so is there a bad type of protein/whey??

[Daycrawler]

whey is derived from milk...it's actually the better part of milk...so a better amino acid profile w/o the fat & added cals...

Ah. What if you drink skim milk? No fat, and 80 calories per 8fl oz.....

[humsie]

whey protein your body needs protein what do you think you get from chicken and other poultry, creatine your body produces it but no harm in a bit more to much your body craps it out

[Tbett418]

Thats all what I figured thanks for clarifying. Now if only I had money for a gym or to buy my own stuff to use all my shops to full potential lol

[Hags]

Honestly if you are serious about working out and have supplement bottles all around the house like I do then you are going to meet a lot of ignorant people that don't know jack sh*t about supplementation. Get used to it. I can't tell you how many people have asked me questions like :
"If I drink protein and don't workout what would happen!??" Answer: You will die
"I heard that whey protein is bad for you and can kill your kidneys" Answer: Go study for 10+ years and call me back

Almost every week I hear a new stupid question.... I've learned to let them roll right off the shoulder.

[or_yourlivingtodie]

and have those people that told you this ever stepped foot in a gym? or even know what a dumbell looks like?

[LouB2010]

then your also getting casein...it will slow down the digestive process causing more of a trickle stream of amino acids not counting the fact a lower amount of protein per serving...

Ah. What if you drink skim milk? No fat, and 80 calories per 8fl oz.....

[LouB2010]

also less anabolic...but anticatabolic...so it still helps...just not preferred when it comes to building muscle for reasons i stated above this post...

[or_yourlivingtodie]

also less anabolic...but anticatabolic...so it still helps...just not preferred when it comes to building muscle for reasons i stated above this post...

are you saying whey is more anabolic than milk?

[page9931]

hope not aha

[LouB2010]

absolutely...per serving are you kidding me? 20 something grams of whey protein w/o casein to slow it down...all absorbed quick...that's what makes you anabolic...all those amino acids rising in the bloodstream...casein is slow...it's also 80% of milk protein...your only getting 20% whey in milk...

Casein is known for a slow stream of aminos...your body takes awhile to digest it...several many hrs...so it's considered an anti catabolic protein...however, research indicates that casein is not needed...proper recovery throughout the day is good enough...you don't need casein protein at night...

Whey is anabolic...sometimes in a blend casein protein or milk protein (b/c milk has casein)...this is just to slow the whey down a bit...why? You want it fast but sometimes you want to slow it down just enough to keep a high level of amino acids for a bit more of an expanded period of time...this is keep you anabolic longer & then anticatabolic in the last hour or so...

For example - a hydrowhey might all be absorbed in 1hr...that might be ideal first thing in the morning or after a workout (depends on sups taking)....however, why be anabolic for 1 hr when you can extend it for a few hrs...see there is a max spike that can be achieved w/whey protein...so it's wise to keep a certain anabolic peak over a few hrs versus 1hr...it actually is beneficial...

Now a blended protein is ideal for the 3-4hrs...this does what i showed in the example...however, a whey isolate can still be a solid 2-3hrs and might be ideal for after training or first thing in the AM...this also depends on your sup regiment...i say this because there are a lot of BCAA products out there & other post workout sups etc...so depends on what the person is taking...just trying my best to explain it.

are you saying whey is more anabolic than milk?

[or_yourlivingtodie]

20g of protein from milk is no more anabolic for you than 20g of protein from a whey shake...........................ITS PROTEIN.

[Hags]

Also, whey has nothing to do with increasing anabolic hormones or decreasing catabolic hormones.

[or_yourlivingtodie]

Loub and his anabolic window BS

[Hags]

You waited 15 minutes after your workout to take the proteins!?!? You're never going to gain any muscle!!

[or_yourlivingtodie]

You waited 15 minutes after your workout to take the proteins!?!? You're never going to gain any muscle!!

i guess all the people who benefit from IF are just magical beings

[changemyoil66]

In excess anything can be bad for you...even water. But in moderation both are fine.

[Hags]

i guess all the people who benefit from IF are just magical beings

Thats the only logical explanation.... lol

[jsteele31]

Instead of doing research, I always like to rely on some good quality Bro Science from the neighborly kids down the road

[rhadam]

absolutely...per serving are you kidding me? 20 something grams of whey protein w/o casein to slow it down...all absorbed quick...that's what makes you anabolic...all those amino acids rising in the bloodstream...casein is slow...it's also 80% of milk protein...your only getting 20% whey in milk...

Casein is known for a slow stream of aminos...your body takes awhile to digest it...several many hrs...so it's considered an anti catabolic protein...however, research indicates that casein is not needed...proper recovery throughout the day is good enough...you don't need casein protein at night...

Whey is anabolic...sometimes in a blend casein protein or milk protein (b/c milk has casein)...this is just to slow the whey down a bit...why? You want it fast but sometimes you want to slow it down just enough to keep a high level of amino acids for a bit more of an expanded period of time...this is keep you anabolic longer & then anticatabolic in the last hour or so...

For example - a hydrowhey might all be absorbed in 1hr...that might be ideal first thing in the morning or after a workout (depends on sups taking)....however, why be anabolic for 1 hr when you can extend it for a few hrs...see there is a max spike that can be achieved w/whey protein...so it's wise to keep a certain anabolic peak over a few hrs versus 1hr...it actually is beneficial...

Now a blended protein is ideal for the 3-4hrs...this does what i showed in the example...however, a whey isolate can still be a solid 2-3hrs and might be ideal for after training or first thing in the AM...this also depends on your sup regiment...i say this because there are a lot of BCAA products out there & other post workout sups etc...so depends on what the person is taking...just trying my best to explain it.

You went full retard, never go full retard.



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[WillBrink]

Ive been being told by some people that taking supplements I'd bad for you and I should stop. As far as a multi and fish oil everyone says those are good but then most say the whey protein and creatine are bad to take.

So can they be bad? Or are these just ignorant people when it comes to these?

Also one said since its whey isolate it's ok cuz that's the good kind so is there a bad type of protein/whey??

I'm pretty sure you have about 20 minutes to live. Get your affairs in order son...

[changemyoil66]

You went full retard, never go full retard.



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hahahahah i love that movie

[or_yourlivingtodie]

just gave lou accidental greenz.

[rhadam]

hahahahah i love that movie

Whenever I read a Loub post I picture him as Simple Jack, then it makes sense why he says what he does.

[LouB2010]

putting the body in an anabolic state does not mean increasing anabolic hormones...they are protein spikes and the talking pt happens at the cellular level....

Also, whey has nothing to do with increasing anabolic hormones or decreasing catabolic hormones.

[changemyoil66]

putting the body in an anabolic state does not mean increasing anabolic hormones...they are protein spikes and the talking pt happens at the cellular level....

P-P-P-P-P please don't hurt me.hahahhah