hey guys, what amount of weight is considered good for lifts like squat, bench, and deadlift based on bodyweight? Like for example, how much should someone who weight 160lbs. be able to do on all lifts to be considered strong?
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03-25-2011, 06:33 PM #1
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03-25-2011, 06:37 PM #3
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03-25-2011, 06:38 PM #4
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You looking for something like this?
http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLi...hStandards.htm
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03-25-2011, 06:47 PM #5
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03-25-2011, 07:30 PM #8
nah i would consider the 110 pound guy doing 220 strong. on the same note though i would still consider the 220 pound guy pushing 250+ stronger even though one guy is pushing twice his BW while the bigger guy is only going a littleless than 15% over his own. bigger weight moved=stronger ofcourse!!!
You would be surprised just how much time I have to waste.
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03-25-2011, 07:31 PM #9
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03-25-2011, 09:07 PM #11
And what about deadlift? This is ridiculous, you're saying people can't be strong unless they weigh a lot? Try finding anyone at or below 160 lbs who can bench 300 raw, a very very small minority.
Body weight has to be taken into consideration, people who weigh more, in general, lift more naturally.
A guy who is 250 who squats 405 is strong, but someone who is 160 and squats 320 is weaker, but still strong.
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03-26-2011, 12:38 AM #12
Just look at what guys at your gym are lifting and you'll have an idea where you are compared to others. On this forum, everyone squats 10 plates, deadlifts 12 and benches 8.
For example, I currently do 3 sets of 10 of 185 lbs bench and I rarely see any guys at my gym lifting more. On this forum, that is considered weak (and those guys that consider it weak usually have ****ty physiques).I ALWAYS rep back. srs. Just add "rep back" to your comment.
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03-26-2011, 04:51 AM #13
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03-26-2011, 11:43 AM #16
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03-27-2011, 10:36 AM #17
I agree and disagree. There is something to be said about pound for pound strength, but someone who can lift 350 is stronger than someone who can lift 300...period.
It's like weight classes in MMA. Jose Aldo or Dominick Cruz isn't going to beat Cain Velasquez, but they are top fighters...although I think Anderson Silva could probably beat anyone in any weight class.
I like the way your dad thinks!
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03-27-2011, 12:11 PM #18
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03-27-2011, 02:09 PM #23
No, I was disagreeing that BW multipliers are dumb. There is something to be said about being able to lift twice your weight. To me a high power to weight ratio is efficient, and since there are MMA weight classes, the more efficient you are the better!
I agree with you that weight and strength are not linearly correlated. A 150 lbs guy lifting 300 is more probable than a 200 lbs guy benching 400. Then again, I could be wrong and all of the top lifters put up multipliers like that. I'm not a lifting competitor, so I have no real data to back any of that up with.
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03-27-2011, 02:27 PM #24
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03-27-2011, 05:19 PM #27
Ok, this is a pseudo hijack, but it still has to do with strength and weight.
I think there is some merit to having weigh classes so the bigger stronger guys don't kill the smaller ones. Especially since that was all of the Athletic Commissions problems with the UFC. Remember back in the day Royce was dominated everyone no matter what the weight at 175? No one was saying he was a good fighter for being 175, he just was a good fighter.
But back on the ranch...
If a guy can bench more than me, in my book he's stronger than me, but that doesn't mean I won't maximize my power for my sport that has weight classes.
MrMisanthrope's dad has a pretty good set of guidelines for bench milestones:
1. Lift your bodyweight
2. Lift double your bodyweight
3. Lift more than everybody
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03-27-2011, 05:31 PM #28
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