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    What weight is considered "good" for lifts?

    hey guys, what amount of weight is considered good for lifts like squat, bench, and deadlift based on bodyweight? Like for example, how much should someone who weight 160lbs. be able to do on all lifts to be considered strong?
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    Originally Posted by bassplayer19a7x View Post
    hey guys, what amount of weight is considered good for lifts like squat, bench, and deadlift based on bodyweight? Like for example, how much should someone who weight 160lbs. be able to do on all lifts to be considered strong?
    Depends on multiple factors. Generally, being able to lift more than your bodyweight in numerous different motions is a good starting benchmark.
    Bodybuilding is 60% training and 50% diet. Yes that adds up to 110%, because that's what you should be giving it. Change the inside, and the physique will follow.
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    i have to agree with DJAuto. although i think benchmarks i would have to hit to consider myself strong are:

    Deadlift: 2.5xBW
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    OH Press: 1xBW(this is the only one i can do right now )
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    I'm 165, cutting to 155, hoping to put up 310.

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    Personally (and this is just my opinion), I think multipliers of bodyweight are ****ty metric for real strength. I think if you cant squat at least 405, your not strong. If you cant bench 300, then again, your not strong. A 110 pound guy squatting 2x bodyweight is still only squatting 220.
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    Originally Posted by YoBigFatMomma View Post
    Personally (and this is just my opinion), I think multipliers of bodyweight are ****ty metric for real strength. I think if you cant squat at least 405, your not strong. If you cant bench 300, then again, your not strong. A 110 pound guy squatting 2x bodyweight is still only squatting 220.
    nah i would consider the 110 pound guy doing 220 strong. on the same note though i would still consider the 220 pound guy pushing 250+ stronger even though one guy is pushing twice his BW while the bigger guy is only going a littleless than 15% over his own. bigger weight moved=stronger ofcourse!!!
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    Originally Posted by YoBigFatMomma View Post
    Personally (and this is just my opinion), I think multipliers of bodyweight are ****ty metric for real strength. I think if you cant squat at least 405, your not strong. If you cant bench 300, then again, your not strong. A 110 pound guy squatting 2x bodyweight is still only squatting 220.
    Completely disagree. I'd say a guy who's 110 and benching 220 is very strong. He shouldn't be penalized for his size.
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    nah i would consider the 110 pound guy doing 220 strong. on the same note though i would still consider the 220 pound guy pushing 250+ stronger even though one guy is pushing twice his BW while the bigger guy is only going a littleless than 15% over his own. bigger weight moved=stronger ofcourse!!!
    By your logic, that 60kg guy who deadlifts 300kg is weaker than a 120kg guy who deadlifts 350kg.
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    Originally Posted by YoBigFatMomma View Post
    Personally (and this is just my opinion), I think multipliers of bodyweight are ****ty metric for real strength. I think if you cant squat at least 405, your not strong. If you cant bench 300, then again, your not strong. A 110 pound guy squatting 2x bodyweight is still only squatting 220.

    And what about deadlift? This is ridiculous, you're saying people can't be strong unless they weigh a lot? Try finding anyone at or below 160 lbs who can bench 300 raw, a very very small minority.

    Body weight has to be taken into consideration, people who weigh more, in general, lift more naturally.

    A guy who is 250 who squats 405 is strong, but someone who is 160 and squats 320 is weaker, but still strong.

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    Originally Posted by bassplayer19a7x View Post
    hey guys, what amount of weight is considered good for lifts like squat, bench, and deadlift based on bodyweight? Like for example, how much should someone who weight 160lbs. be able to do on all lifts to be considered strong?
    Just look at what guys at your gym are lifting and you'll have an idea where you are compared to others. On this forum, everyone squats 10 plates, deadlifts 12 and benches 8.

    For example, I currently do 3 sets of 10 of 185 lbs bench and I rarely see any guys at my gym lifting more. On this forum, that is considered weak (and those guys that consider it weak usually have ****ty physiques).
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    Originally Posted by GeneralSerpant View Post
    it's all about how scary you look when you flex in the mirror.
    It only matters if you can scare yourself?

    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    i have to agree with DJAuto. although i think benchmarks i would have to hit to consider myself strong are:

    Deadlift: 2.5xBW
    Squat: 2xBW
    Bench: 1.5xBW
    OH Press: 1xBW(this is the only one i can do right now )
    BW multipliers are dumb. Strength is not linear.

    Originally Posted by AdolfHipster View Post
    By your logic, that 60kg guy who deadlifts 300kg is weaker than a 120kg guy who deadlifts 350kg.
    350 > 300
    There is no such thing as 'strong enough'
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    My father always told me that there are only three milestones in any lift:

    1. Lift your bodyweight
    2. Lift double your bodyweight
    3. Lift more than everybody

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    Originally Posted by YoBigFatMomma View Post
    Personally (and this is just my opinion), I think multipliers of bodyweight are ****ty metric for real strength. I think if you cant squat at least 405, your not strong. If you cant bench 300, then again, your not strong. A 110 pound guy squatting 2x bodyweight is still only squatting 220.
    ^^One of the dumber posts I've read in a long time. Congrats.
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    BW multipliers are dumb. Strength is not linear.

    350 > 300
    I agree and disagree. There is something to be said about pound for pound strength, but someone who can lift 350 is stronger than someone who can lift 300...period.

    It's like weight classes in MMA. Jose Aldo or Dominick Cruz isn't going to beat Cain Velasquez, but they are top fighters...although I think Anderson Silva could probably beat anyone in any weight class.

    Originally Posted by MrMisanthrope View Post
    My father always told me that there are only three milestones in any lift:

    1. Lift your bodyweight
    2. Lift double your bodyweight
    3. Lift more than everybody

    It makes sense to me.
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    Originally Posted by bassplayer19a7x View Post
    hey guys, what amount of weight is considered good for lifts like squat, bench, and deadlift based on bodyweight? Like for example, how much should someone who weight 160lbs. be able to do on all lifts to be considered strong?
    In my humble opinion, how much one lifts is overrated. Its the technique that matters.
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    Originally Posted by bassplayer19a7x View Post
    hey guys, what amount of weight is considered good for lifts like squat, bench, and deadlift based on bodyweight? Like for example, how much should someone who weight 160lbs. be able to do on all lifts to be considered strong?
    5 lbs more than last week is good.
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    Originally Posted by splitz View Post
    I agree and disagree. There is something to be said about pound for pound strength, but someone who can lift 350 is stronger than someone who can lift 300...period.
    Are you disagree about strength not being linear?

    Originally Posted by fnares View Post
    In my humble opinion, how much one lifts is overrated. Its the technique that matters.
    Not if you're some sort of strength athlete.
    There is no such thing as 'strong enough'
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    I would say 405/275/500/200 (squat/bench/deadlift/press).
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    Originally Posted by TrettinR View Post
    Are you disagree[ing] about strength not being linear?
    No, I was disagreeing that BW multipliers are dumb. There is something to be said about being able to lift twice your weight. To me a high power to weight ratio is efficient, and since there are MMA weight classes, the more efficient you are the better!

    I agree with you that weight and strength are not linearly correlated. A 150 lbs guy lifting 300 is more probable than a 200 lbs guy benching 400. Then again, I could be wrong and all of the top lifters put up multipliers like that. I'm not a lifting competitor, so I have no real data to back any of that up with.
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    Originally Posted by splitz View Post
    No, I was disagreeing that BW multipliers are dumb. There is something to be said about being able to lift twice your weight. To me a high power to weight ratio is efficient, and since there are MMA weight classes, the more efficient you are the better!

    I agree with you that weight and strength are not linearly correlated. A 150 lbs guy lifting 300 is more probable than a 200 lbs guy benching 400. Then again, I could be wrong and all of the top lifters put up multipliers like that. I'm not a lifting competitor, so I have no real data to back any of that up with.
    I should have been more explicit in my previous post. BW multipliers are dumb for comparing lifters of different bodyweights. Although they can be fine for making personal goals, obviously.
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    No, I was disagreeing that BW multipliers are dumb. There is something to be said about being able to lift twice your weight. To me a high power to weight ratio is efficient, and since there are MMA weight classes, the more efficient you are the better!

    I agree with you that weight and strength are not linearly correlated. A 150 lbs guy lifting 300 is more probable than a 200 lbs guy benching 400. Then again, I could be wrong and all of the top lifters put up multipliers like that. I'm not a lifting competitor, so I have no real data to back any of that up with.
    Fighting sports have weight classes to the bigger stronger guys don't kill the smaller weaker guys.
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    anyone that can bench double their BW is considered strong in my book. A 400 pound guy benching 305 doesn't impress me one bit.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Fighting sports have weight classes to the bigger stronger guys don't kill the smaller weaker guys.
    Ok, this is a pseudo hijack, but it still has to do with strength and weight.

    I think there is some merit to having weigh classes so the bigger stronger guys don't kill the smaller ones. Especially since that was all of the Athletic Commissions problems with the UFC. Remember back in the day Royce was dominated everyone no matter what the weight at 175? No one was saying he was a good fighter for being 175, he just was a good fighter.

    But back on the ranch...

    If a guy can bench more than me, in my book he's stronger than me, but that doesn't mean I won't maximize my power for my sport that has weight classes.

    MrMisanthrope's dad has a pretty good set of guidelines for bench milestones:
    1. Lift your bodyweight
    2. Lift double your bodyweight
    3. Lift more than everybody
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Fighting sports have weight classes to the bigger stronger guys don't kill the smaller weaker guys.
    yeah, that sounds about right. but sometimes the difference is height, not always muscle mass.

    stefan struve is 6 11, weighs 225 i believe

    wanderlei silva is 5 10/5 11 and fights at 185
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