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    excellent read, although i do sometimes think when should i actually need a belt or ever....

    is a belt really necessary? should i start using them when i hit 3/4 plates?

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    Repped for informative and useful post.

    On the subject of shoes, why is it that bad to squat with compressible shoes i.e. running shoes..?

    I am considering trying barefoot next leg session, anyone do this or have any advice?

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    This is great, man, thanks. Looks like I need to get some new shoes, lol, because I've been using trainers all the time. May explain a few things.

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    I have never attempted a full squat ATG at more than 80% of my BW. I'm just afraid for my knees cos i don't want to be stuck down there with no way to rise up.

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    Originally Posted by joney_boy View Post
    I have never attempted a full squat ATG at more than 80% of my BW. I'm just afraid for my knees cos i don't want to be stuck down there with no way to rise up.
    Yea that is an issue. I wish someone would just invent a apparatus that could save you from such a peril. A "rack" ,if you will, that could provide safety bars to protect you should you not be able to get out of the hole. Such a thing could "power" you to unprecedented levels of gain.
    I like it; I love it; I want some more of it.

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    This one of the best posts I have read on this forum.

    Thanks vox.

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    Originally Posted by terahammer View Post
    excellent read, although i do sometimes think when should i actually need a belt or ever....

    is a belt really necessary? should i start using them when i hit 3/4 plates?
    IMO, a belt should be saved for your heaviest sets once you're squatting more than 1.5x your body weight. Even then, it's not "necessary", really.




    Originally Posted by thiba17 View Post
    On the subject of shoes, why is it that bad to squat with compressible shoes i.e. running shoes..?

    I am considering trying barefoot next leg session, anyone do this or have any advice?
    A compressible sole is bad because it's unstable when overloaded. You could roll an ankle, tweak a knee, or just plain lose your balance.

    Nothing wrong with squatting barefoot, if you have your own gym or one that allows it. Chuck Taylor's work just as well, though, and are more hygienic.
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    Originally Posted by VoxExMachina View Post
    IMO, a belt should be saved for your heaviest sets once you're squatting more than 1.5x your body weight. Even then, it's not "necessary", really.






    A compressible sole is bad because it's unstable when overloaded. You could roll an ankle, tweak a knee, or just plain lose your balance.

    Nothing wrong with squatting barefoot, if you have your own gym or one that allows it. Chuck Taylor's work just as well, though, and are more hygienic.
    Thanks for the reply and info brah, much appreciated.

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    Originally Posted by joney_boy View Post
    I have never attempted a full squat ATG at more than 80% of my BW. I'm just afraid for my knees cos i don't want to be stuck down there with no way to rise up.
    Not an issue if you squat in a rack with the safeties set properly.
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    Repped! Great thread.

    I made a homemade squat rack using 4x4's that go from the floor in my basement up to the joists and secured with two lag screws per beam. I then used shorter 4x4's about 36" behind the first ones and connected the two with 2x6's at an elevation just below my ATG squat. I've got a few braces, too, and it's also screwed into the concrete with Tapcons (it helps if yo have a hammer drill for this).

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    Thanks for taking the time to write this out, Vox. A good resource to which to point noobs.

    Another Stickie-worthy thread, for sure.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Thanks for taking the time to write this out, Vox. A good resource to which to point noobs.

    Another Stickie-worthy thread, for sure.
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    I thought Vox's threads were on auto-sticky!?? What's taking so long?

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    I thought Vox's threads were on auto-sticky!?? What's taking so long?
    Damn mods are slow. Or maybe there are too many stickies at the moment.

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    Great post Vox.

    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    Yea that is an issue. I wish someone would just invent a apparatus that could save you from such a peril. A "rack" ,if you will, that could provide safety bars to protect you should you not be able to get out of the hole. Such a thing could "power" you to unprecedented levels of gain.
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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    Yea that is an issue. I wish someone would just invent a apparatus that could save you from such a peril. A "rack" ,if you will, that could provide safety bars to protect you should you not be able to get out of the hole. Such a thing could "power" you to unprecedented levels of gain.
    lmao i will get on that right away breh. maybe if we get a patent on this apparatus we could make millions.....

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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    lmao i will get on that right away breh. maybe if we get a patent on this apparatus we could make millions.....

    Sticky this please, Scott, Dom, Demike?
    haha...i am just wondering whether more people would read with it being a sticky or not?
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    Originally Posted by TheProgressiveOne View Post
    haha...i am just wondering whether more people would read with it being a sticky or not?
    no it would go largely ignored but SOME would find it and read it. if it is a sticky though it is easier to find and copy/paste into a thread made about this subject
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    great thread.


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    There are already too many stickies in this section. If there are going to be this many they must be consolidated and like threads hyperlinked in the OP of one. For an example of this check this thread down int he PL/SM section

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=386505


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    My lower back just keep rounding whenever I do Squats

    Hi guys, my lower back just keeps rounding whenever I do squats, I have no idea how can I prevent this.

    My stance is about shoulder-width apart, barefooted, face front.

    What else must I do to prevent this? It's very frustrating

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    Originally Posted by Mphisto View Post
    Hi guys, my lower back just keeps rounding whenever I do squats, I have no idea how can I prevent this.

    My stance is about shoulder-width apart, barefooted, face front.

    What else must I do to prevent this? It's very frustrating
    Low back rounding is a very common problem. In my experience, there are two ways to fix it:

    a) stretch out your hamstrings daily, till they're flexible enough
    b) learn to sit back more

    Then again, I don't know what's your squatting style. Are you doing low bar squats or high bar (Olympic)?

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    Originally Posted by -Lucifer View Post
    Low back rounding is a very common problem. In my experience, there are two ways to fix it:

    a) stretch out your hamstrings daily, till they're flexible enough
    b) learn to sit back more

    Then again, I don't know what's your squatting style. Are you doing low bar squats or high bar (Olympic)?
    Hi, I am currently doing high bar but I am asking whether should I do high bar or low bar because my purpose of doing squats is to focus on the quads, glute

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    at another site that i go to....lucifer as well....there are some pretty strong dudes. one of them, who squatted 785 just yesterday, has been sort of cyber training me. he suggested this simple piece of advice:

    grip the bar as narrowly as you can.

    this will tighten your back up more than you can believe. then, head up, elbows forward which will lead to chest up, look up. try it, you won't believe the difference in rounding.

    here is a video that he had me watch. it's the best i've seen on a squat set up, no disrespect to the other videos that have been posted.


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    I am asking whether should I do high bar or low bar because my purpose of doing squats is to focus on the quads, glute
    High bar: more quad activation than glute
    Low bar: more glute and ham activation than quad

    Both styles will work the quads, hams and glutes. If you're training for strength, I recommend the low bar style as you will be able to use more weight.

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    Originally Posted by boathead View Post
    at another site that i go to....lucifer as well....there are some pretty strong dudes. one of them, who squatted 785 just yesterday, has been sort of cyber training me. he suggested this simple piece of advice:

    grip the bar as narrowly as you can.

    this will tighten your back up more than you can believe. then, head up, elbows forward which will lead to chest up, look up. try it, you won't believe the difference in rounding.

    here is a video that he had me watch. it's the best i've seen on a squat set up, no disrespect to the other videos that have been posted.

    never tried gripping the bar more narrowly, will give it a shot next time i'm squatting

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