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    Dextrose in the morning ?

    So the first thing that i put in my mouth in the morning is half dose whey and 30 grams of dextrose , 30 minutes after that i have breakfast , is that good or shall i leave the dextrose only post workout ?

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    Originally Posted by hardrlz View Post
    So the first thing that i put in my mouth in the morning is half dose whey and 30 grams of dextrose , 30 minutes after that i have breakfast , is that good or shall i leave the dextrose only post workout ?
    I would leave the overpriced sugar alone.

    Eat some eggs and a banana, much more satisfying, if you ask me. Heck, throw some extra cane sugar on your cereal if you feel the need for more sugary carbs.

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    Originally Posted by hardrlz View Post
    So the first thing that i put in my mouth in the morning is half dose whey and 30 grams of dextrose , 30 minutes after that i have breakfast , is that good or shall i leave the dextrose only post workout ?
    Why not lunch and diner too?

    Lol, JK. Dextrose is a waste of money IMHO.


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    Supplements IMO are just something used to make up cals and macro's, as Shred suggested some fruit and some eggs will have pretty much same effect and will be alot more satisfying

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    OP, why not skip all that processed stuff and just eat your "breakfast" when you wake up?

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    Originally Posted by hardrlz View Post
    .... leave the dextrose....
    ^^^^This.

    Why not eat a carb source that contains some real nutrition? A piece of fruit, or some oatmeal would be better for your overall health, if that's also a concern for you.

    Same deal Post-workout. Just eat a regular meal when it's convenient for you. Unless you just ran a marathon, and have another one coming up in an hour or so, there's no need to jump on anything fast-digesting.
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    Originally Posted by Shrederator View Post
    I would leave the overpriced sugar alone.

    Eat some eggs and a banana, much more satisfying, if you ask me. Heck, throw some extra cane sugar on your cereal if you feel the need for more sugary carbs.
    Originally Posted by braggable View Post
    Why not lunch and diner too?

    Lol, JK. Dextrose is a waste of money IMHO.
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    Supplements IMO are just something used to make up cals and macro's, as Shred suggested some fruit and some eggs will have pretty much same effect and will be alot more satisfying

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    OP, why not skip all that processed stuff and just eat your "breakfast" when you wake up?
    All of these ^. And then you can get creative and use the dextrose as part of some elaborate prank on April 1st.

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    If you're going for all out mass mode, then yeah the shake with simple sugars first thing in the morning prior to your actual breakfast is a good call. Instead of the dextrose, use honey, or even table sugar in whey shake. Should do the trick!
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    Originally Posted by fretslayer View Post
    If you're going for all out mass mode, then yeah the shake with simple sugars first thing in the morning prior to your actual breakfast is a good call. Instead of the dextrose, use honey, or even table sugar in whey shake. Should do the trick!
    How are the simple carbs going to help him build mass, besides contributing to his overall carb/calorie requirement for the day?

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    Originally Posted by Shrederator View Post
    How are the simple carbs going to help him build mass, besides contributing to his overall carb/calorie requirement for the day?
    in for clarity, as well.

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    Originally Posted by Shrederator View Post
    How are the simple carbs going to help him build mass, besides contributing to his overall carb/calorie requirement for the day?
    It simply helps him get his body into anabolic mode faster, as well as boosts caloric intake.
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    Originally Posted by fretslayer View Post
    It simply helps him get his body into anabolic mode faster, as well as boosts caloric intake.
    What is the "anabolic mode"?

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    Originally Posted by braggable View Post
    What is the "anabolic mode"?

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    Originally Posted by braggable View Post
    What is the "anabolic mode"?
    oh, its that special time in boys life when...
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    Yeah i eat real breakfast but half an hour after the whey and dextrose and i do it this way because from what i have heard the body is in catabolic state in the morning and it needs fast acting protein and carbs( i am not sure for the carbs this is why i ask) to stop catabolism , am i mistaken ?

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    Yeah i eat real breakfast but half an hour after the whey and dextrose and i do it this way because from what i have heard the body is in catabolic state in the morning and it needs fast acting protein and carbs( i am not sure for the carbs this is why i ask) to stop catabolism , am i mistaken ?
    This is exactly why I said what I said, the simple sugars simply digest faster, therefore in effect stopping catabolism that much faster. If you're training hard and heavy, you should be waking up starving. Getting that liquid meal in first thing is just an extra step you "can" take to feed your muscles when they need it.

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    That's retarded, pure sugar has very little flavor and is a pretty big waste of calories IMO
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    Originally Posted by fretslayer View Post
    This is exactly why I said what I said, the simple sugars simply digest faster, therefore in effect stopping catabolism that much faster. If you're training hard and heavy, you should be waking up starving. Getting that liquid meal in first thing is just an extra step you "can" take to feed your muscles when they need it.

    I'm not an expert, but I have done my homework over the years and found that this helped me in my quest for more muscle at the time that was my goal.
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    Originally Posted by fretslayer View Post
    If you're going for all out mass mode, then yeah the shake with simple sugars first thing in the morning prior to your actual breakfast is a good call. Instead of the dextrose, use honey, or even table sugar in whey shake. Should do the trick!
    Being an expert in broscience in my past, I believe he is talking about dex creating an insulin spike. Spiked insulin = anabolic mode.

    Not saying I agree, just explaining it.

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    So i should stick with the dextrose in the morning ?

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    Originally Posted by hardrlz View Post
    from what i have heard the body is in catabolic state in the morning and it needs fast acting protein and carbs...to stop catabolism , am i mistaken ?

    Yes, you are mistaken. Science shows us that going 20+ hours with zero food will not result in any appreciable LBM loss. So, sleeping 8 hours and waking up isn't going to be more detrimental than 20 hours.

    Originally Posted by hardrlz View Post
    So i should stick with the dextrose in the morning ?
    no

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    Originally Posted by hardrlz View Post
    from what i have heard the body is in catabolic state in the morning and it needs fast acting protein and carbs( i am not sure for the carbs this is why i ask) to stop catabolism
    1. you heard wrong
    2. any "fast-acting" effect of dextrose and whey is killed by having your breakfast prior to it

    double fail of mega proportions

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    Originally Posted by hardrlz View Post
    So i should stick with the dextrose in the morning ?
    I once fell into the "dextrose in the morning and after workouts" crew. After one tub of it, I realized that it did nothing more for me. I have since dumped all my usual daily supplements with the exception of a blended protein, creatine, and a multi and have continued to gain and slightly more. Broscience if you ask me, based on personal experience and seeing the light.

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    Originally Posted by bbrock293 View Post
    I once fell into the "dextrose in the morning and after workouts" crew. After one tub of it, I realized that it did nothing more for me. I have since dumped all my usual daily supplements with the exception of a blended protein, creatine, and a multi and have continued to gain and slightly more. Broscience if you ask me, based on personal experience and seeing the light.
    damnit.

    I currently am on my tub of NOW Carbo-Gain (maltodextrin) which I assume falls into the exact same category as Dextrose, amirite?

    I am currently doing the PWO drink of whey + carbo-gain thinking its supposed to transport the protein into my muscles quicker.

    So that theory is broscience?

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    At least you that put puzzle together rather quickly.

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