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    You guys make a good point. I'm going to get an Epiphone LP first. A custom shop Gibson LP should be my treat when I actually git gud.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    When i press the chords, i worry about my (clipped) nails leaving an indent on the wood.
    Dude...

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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Dude...
    What? Am i too careful with my guitar? It's not like i can afford a new one right now, so i try to take care of it.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    What? Am i too careful with my guitar? It's not like i can afford a new one right now, so i try to take care of it.
    I ain't bagging on you bro, but the reality is you might be being too careful and yet not careful enough...

    For instance, I keep all my (valuable) guitars at 50% humidity and 73F - outside of being a meathead with an instrument, living conditions are the most important for the care of an instrument. Like, no one is going to notice a nail print, and if it did happen and it bothers you, it can be decompressed with an iron and a moist rag.

    When it's time to steel wool to polish your frets and remove finger oils from the fingerboard, it's gonna looked scratched up (even with the grain) and then when you massage some good oil into the fingerboard, it's gonna look spankin' new again.

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    Also should state, since I believe you said you're relatively new, if you're pressing in such a way that your nail could indent the fingerboard, your nails are too long. I keep my nails down so short that there is no white part of the nail left. If that's painful to do, then use a nail file and file down the nails a bit shorter each week and after a couple of months you can just use a clipper and go super short without any pain.

    Regarding humidity, too much is also bad. Between 45-55%, needs to be monitored with hygrometer. Knew a guy who put his Collings right next to a Walmart type humidifier and split the guitar in half. Spend $5K on a guitar, place it in front of a $15 unit. 2-way Boveda humidifier packs that cigar dudes use are good, too. 49% packs.

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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Meh, don't blow $6,500 on a new CS Paul. For $3K, you can get a 90's R8 and it will never lose value.
    Exactly.

    I've had 4 custom shop Les Paul's from 2014 and up that I had for a while and one from late 90's briefly. There wasn't a single one that was bad; there were just some better than others, like any guitar. But I can assure you, NONE of them were bad or duds. Aside from the ones I've owned, I've probably played a dozen or more and have yet to pick up one that didn't play and feel great. I spent so much time obsessing over finding the perfect one that I gave up because they were all so similar. I have a 2016 R8 that sounds better than any one I've ever owned because of the Wizz Pickups in it, but playability is no different than any other I've owned, whether it be a $6,400 Collectors Choice or R9 or a cheaper R8. You're basically paying for a better top with any newer R9 vs an R8. There are new R8's with flametops and 59' neck profiles now that are still a lot cheaper than a new R9.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    What? Am i too careful with my guitar? It's not like i can afford a new one right now, so i try to take care of it.
    Don't sweat that stuff brah. What will wear down are your frets if you're pressing really hard and consistently play in that area. Try relaxing your fingers a little. Pressing too hard could cause the notes to sound sharp, and of course, is uncomfortable to you.
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    Originally Posted by Redwine006 View Post
    Don't sweat that stuff brah. What will wear down are your frets if you're pressing really hard and consistently play in that area. Try relaxing your fingers a little. Pressing too hard could cause the notes to sound sharp, and of course, is uncomfortable to you.
    Unfortunately my guitar needs a good amount of pressure for sound to come out. Of course if i place my finger right behind the frets, i won't need much pressure. But with certain chords, if the finger isn't directly behind it, i need to force it down a lot. Which kills my fingers (no callus buildup).

    I know it's possible to get your guitar strings custom lowered at a legit guitar store which makes it easier to play. But right now i can't afford it. Nor do i know any good guitar store around me who can do it. But thanks for the reply! I'll try and be less careful and just enjoy it more.

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    Regarding humidity, too much is also bad. Between 45-55%, needs to be monitored with hygrometer. Knew a guy who put his Collings right next to a Walmart type humidifier and split the guitar in half. Spend $5K on a guitar, place it in front of a $15 unit. 2-way Boveda humidifier packs that cigar dudes use are good, too. 49% packs.
    I always try to keep my nails as short as possible.
    As for humidity, it's always been a problem in my room. It's around 60 i think.
    Don't have a dehumidifier yet. What i do is just keep the guitar in the closed case whenever i don't use it.
    Hopefully this will shield it a bit. Will look into the packs thanks!

    Ps: Dumb question but what's the best position to store a guitar? lying flat on the ground or standing up?
    Or does it not matter? Right now mine is standing up against the wall to save floor space.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    Unfortunately my guitar needs a good amount of pressure for sound to come out. Of course if i place my finger right behind the frets, i won't need much pressure. But with certain chords, if the finger isn't directly behind it, i need to force it down a lot. Which kills my fingers (no callus buildup).

    I know it's possible to get your guitar strings custom lowered at a legit guitar store which makes it easier to play. But right now i can't afford it. Nor do i know any good guitar store around me who can do it. But thanks for the reply! I'll try and be less careful and just enjoy it more.
    Is it an acoustic or electric?

    There are so many great videos out there to help with that. I'm certain all it needs is a simple set up. Even with a minor tweak, you would feel a big difference. I guarantee your confidence in playing will go up with a guitar that plays well.

    I learned from a luthier that was from my hometown. But, give Dave's world of Fun Stuff a search on YouTube. He basically has every type of guitar covered and goes through the setup, step by step. He's funny so it doesn't get boring, either.
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    Originally Posted by Redwine006 View Post
    Is it an acoustic or electric?

    There are so many great videos out there to help with that. I'm certain all it needs is a simple set up. Even with a minor tweak, you would feel a big difference. I guarantee your confidence in playing will go up with a guitar that plays well.

    I learned from a luthier that was from my hometown. But, give Dave's world of Fun Stuff a search on YouTube. He basically has every type of guitar covered and goes through the setup, step by step. He's funny so it doesn't get boring, either.
    It's an acoustic taylor. I don't know if i'm qualified to adjust the string heights myself tbh. I'm surprised i can tune it (with a phone app) without snapping the strings lol. I'm a complete beginner. Will check out that youtube channel! Thank you.
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    It's an acoustic taylor. I don't know if i'm qualified to adjust the string heights myself tbh. I'm surprised i can tune it (with a phone app) without snapping the strings lol. I'm a complete beginner. Will check out that youtube channel! Thank you.
    Absolutely man. Taylor is a very reputable brand. Acoustics can be more of a pain to set up, too. There are a few variables that go into a setup and it can seem overwhelming at first, but rest assured you will come to understand it! It's a walk in the park after that.

    Building callus is the hardest part. It can make it feel impossible to play when they're really hurting. It doesn't hurt to take a break and come back after you've given your fingers a chance to rejuvenate. Hope this helps you man! Good luck and keep jamming!
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    Originally Posted by backinthegymbro View Post
    Unfortunately my guitar needs a good amount of pressure for sound to come out. Of course if i place my finger right behind the frets, i won't need much pressure. But with certain chords, if the finger isn't directly behind it, i need to force it down a lot. Which kills my fingers (no callus buildup).

    I know it's possible to get your guitar strings custom lowered at a legit guitar store which makes it easier to play. But right now i can't afford it. Nor do i know any good guitar store around me who can do it. But thanks for the reply! I'll try and be less careful and just enjoy it more.



    I always try to keep my nails as short as possible.
    As for humidity, it's always been a problem in my room. It's around 60 i think.
    Don't have a dehumidifier yet. What i do is just keep the guitar in the closed case whenever i don't use it.
    Hopefully this will shield it a bit. Will look into the packs thanks!

    Ps: Dumb question but what's the best position to store a guitar? lying flat on the ground or standing up?
    Or does it not matter? Right now mine is standing up against the wall to save floor space.
    60% RH is a bit high, but not that bad. You could just pop a couple of 49% packs in the case, but if it generally doesn't get above 60% I wouldn't worry about it. How you store it in the case standing up is fine.

    As for action, with acoustics, the first line to take should be a neck adjustment. Acoustics generally have higher action, so it could just be that, but you can check neck relief easily. Place a capo on fret 1 and then press a finger on the 14th fret of the low e. With the string depressed against the 1st and 14th frets, check how much space there is at the 7th fret by tapping the low e against the frets. If there's none, the neck is back-bowed; if there's a big gap, then the neck is bowed. You generally want just a little bit of space (business card thickness) between the top of the fret and the bottom of the string.

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    Damn... I got bit by the classical guitar bug.

    I'm gonna put that electric guitar on hold and get either a Cordoba C7 or Alhambra 1C first. Anyone have experience with those guitars or have recommendations for classical guitars in general?


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    I'm a huge music fan, but have never played an instrument (for the most part). I have an electric guitar, but have played it minimally. Would it be possible to self-teach myself by watching vids?
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    I'm a huge music fan, but have never played an instrument (for the most part). I have an electric guitar, but have played it minimally. Would it be possible to self-teach myself by watching vids?
    Absolutely! There are so many new and helpful ways to learn now.

    When I started, I used to record hours and hours of Metal Mania on VH1 and just learned to play by ear initially and constantly rewinding ones I really wanted to learn. I always ran our remote batteries down. We've come a long way! haha
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    Absolutely! There are so many new and helpful ways to learn now.

    When I started, I used to record hours and hours of Metal Mania on VH1 and just learned to play by ear initially and constantly rewinding ones I really wanted to learn. I always ran our remote batteries down. We've come a long way! haha
    Awesome. Thanks. I used to love watching Metal Mania. Also, I miss the VH1 countdowns (ie: greatest bands & songs)
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    Did a deep dive into storage and found my old acoustic that has been lost for 10+ years. It happens to be a classical guitar (judging by the body and 2-inch nut), exactly what I needed. It says "Capistrano Guitars Model DC-10" and "www.freedomguitars.com" on the paper label thing inside the body. That website doesn't even exist anymore, unless they switched to "www.freedomguitar.com" (note the missing "s") which is up and running.

    Anyway, the guitar seems to be in the same condition as I remembered it besides some dirty (maybe rusty?) strings. I just ordered a pack of D'addario Pro-Arte nylon high tension strings as recommended by the classical guitar community. I still need to learn how to string an acoustic though...

    Also, I borrowed my friend's Fender Stratocaster, but the strings also need a change so I ordered a pack of Thomastik-Infeld George Benson Jazz flatwounds (0.012). I don't know anything about electric guitar strings, but I do know that I love the Thomastik-Infeld Jazz flatwounds on my Fender jazz bass so I'm just going take another chance on this brand.

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    Weird Q.

    Why use a capo? Can I just tune up from standard? (don't have a capo , not bothered getting one, its just one song I wanna play. also, I am on electric guitar atm)
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    Originally Posted by BIGNHYOOGE View Post
    Can I just tune up from standard?
    No, or at least, probably not. Your strings are meant to tune to standard - you'd be able to tune up another semitone or two maybe, and then you'll have strings start to break. Even if they don't break during the tuning you're far more likely to break one while playing.

    You COULD get different strings in thinner gauges to suit being tuned higher, but the capo is going to be easier, cheaper, and quicker by far. You can go from standard to capo'd tuning and back in seconds.
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    I like how you threw that at the end, I almost missed it


    at $999, I'm seriously tempted


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    Originally Posted by cjmadscientist View Post
    I like how you threw that at the end, I almost missed it


    at $999, I'm seriously tempted


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    Sorry man I'm a sucker for gear news. Definitely looking forward to seeing some reviews now that it's out in the wild.

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    Really enjoyed this. I appreciate it when a guitarist can talk about the gear they endorse instead of having their tech do all the talking.

    I've always liked how he uses a fixed Floyd bridge. He did the same thing with Ibanez. It's really well thought out.


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    as someone who has 4 springs on my floyds at all times, I think he may be a bit too concerned about sustain, especially at the gain levels and volume he is using every night
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    Originally Posted by cjmadscientist View Post
    as someone who has 4 springs on my floyds at all times, I think he may be a bit too concerned about sustain, especially at the gain levels and volume he is using every night
    Some people believe there's less sustain. I'm not buying it and certainly not when it's blocked or fixed like his. More mass in the bridge will surely transfer more energy to the strings than a slab of wood. It's not an acoustic instrument.

    But I know what you're saying in that with a metric fkton of gain it's less of an issue. I just think a fixed Floyd is a great idea. Most people don't get it but when you like the feel of that bridge, the fine tuners, double locking for the tuning stability, but you don't use the bar, then it makes sense. There was a JS2000 Satriani model that had one but he's the one who's kept that thing going, now over at Jackson.


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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    Some people believe there's less sustain. I'm not buying it and certainly not when it's blocked or fixed like his. More mass in the bridge will surely transfer more energy to the strings than a slab of wood. It's not an acoustic instrument.

    But I know what you're saying in that with a metric fkton of gain it's less of an issue. I just think a fixed Floyd is a great idea. Most people don't get it but when you like the feel of that bridge, the fine tuners, double locking for the tuning stability, but you don't use the bar, then it makes sense. There was a JS2000 Satriani model that had one but he's the one who's kept that thing going, now over at Jackson.

    I really wish Ibanez would put some sort of device that would automatically stop the bridge from truly floating, like a built in tremel-no. I absolutely love the lo pro edge, and I have no plans to use it for any bar related sound effects. It really holds tunings better than a hardtail/locking tuner combo.
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    Originally Posted by votross View Post
    Did a deep dive into storage and found my old acoustic that has been lost for 10+ years. It happens to be a classical guitar (judging by the body and 2-inch nut), exactly what I needed. It says "Capistrano Guitars Model DC-10" and "www.freedomguitars.com" on the paper label thing inside the body. That website doesn't even exist anymore, unless they switched to "www.freedomguitar.com" (note the missing "s") which is up and running.

    Anyway, the guitar seems to be in the same condition as I remembered it besides some dirty (maybe rusty?) strings. I just ordered a pack of D'addario Pro-Arte nylon high tension strings as recommended by the classical guitar community. I still need to learn how to string an acoustic though...

    Also, I borrowed my friend's Fender Stratocaster, but the strings also need a change so I ordered a pack of Thomastik-Infeld George Benson Jazz flatwounds (0.012). I don't know anything about electric guitar strings, but I do know that I love the Thomastik-Infeld Jazz flatwounds on my Fender jazz bass so I'm just going take another chance on this brand.

    I'm taking on acoustic/classical guitar, electric guitar, and electric bass all at once. This is going to be fun. Now only if I had access to a drum kit; I don't have room for one unfortunately.
    A classical guitar has a slotted headstock and a bridge where the strings are tied on (no pins), and the strings are nylon. Like this:
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    If it is a classical, then ProArte strings are fine.

    Thomastik makes great strings, but you don't want to put archtop flatwound strings on a strat, and you don't want to put 12's on there. When you go from factory strings (10's) and go to 12's, the bridge is going to pull up and you'll need an extra spring and/or screw the claw in. Then the intonation is going to be sharp, so you'll have to adjust the length of each string to get it to play in tune. Then it will likely need a neck adjustment due to the extra tension on the neck and possibly string height adjustments.

    If you're already a player who does his own setups, then that's fine and easy to do; if you're just getting started, then you don't want to **** with all that when a set of 10's D'Addario for $5 will get you up and playing sooner than spending $40 on a set of Thomastik flats.

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