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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    wut
    i mean he would consume a yummy meal of 9000 Calories at one sitting which would be enough for 3 days (at an average of 3000 Calories per day). coz meal frequency and timing means nothing for him.. lol
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    Originally Posted by beeboo12 View Post
    lmao who the hell just eats plain bread with nothing else? op i would relax a little bit with your diet. no need go ocd over macros.
    I actually don't count macros at all, I count calories from primary macronutrient sources. You've probably never really tried my approach, because it is pretty unconventional.....but....everyone that tries it ends up adopting it.

    Relax? It doesn't get much more relaxed than grabbing a couple pieces of bread, some almonds, and chompin em down.
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    Originally Posted by jinaas View Post
    i mean he would consume a yummy meal of 9000 Calories at one sitting which would be enough for 3 days (at an average of 3000 Calories per day). coz meal frequency and timing means nothing for him.. lol
    That is true, they are irrelevant at the end of the day, as he has said many times before.
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    Originally Posted by angryguywalking View Post
    This diet isn't the whey to go IMO.....
    If you're stats are accurate, your approach isn't the whey to go either. Sorry, but have to bust the 'call out' out sometimes. Gimme a break.
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    Originally Posted by beeboo12 View Post
    i doubt that he enjoys eating that way, but does so because he feels he has to or he wont make gains.
    I actually LOVE eating this way. It is SOOOOOO simple and easy, and I think the foods taste good, so why would I do it any different?
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    If you're stats are accurate, your approach isn't the whey to go either. Sorry, but have to bust the 'call out' out sometimes. Gimme a break.
    You've got about 12 years over me . Gimme a break.
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    I actually don't count macros at all, I count calories from primary macronutrient sources. You've probably never really tried my approach, because it is pretty unconventional.....but....everyone that tries it ends up adopting it.

    Relax? It doesn't get much more relaxed than grabbing a couple pieces of bread, some almonds, and chompin em down.
    i accomplish the same thing, but my meals actually taste good and are enjoyable. have fun choking down that crap.
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    Why does every other thread in the nutrition forum turn into a clean vs dirty debate. Let the man eat what he wants its clearly working for him. He's just trying to show how he would reach 5k cals as per request and everyone jumps on him. With that being said I'd substitute a shake or two for some steak
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    I actually LOVE eating this way. It is SOOOOOO simple and easy, and I think the foods taste good, so why would I do it any different?
    haha you're delusional.
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    Originally Posted by Flyin Ryan View Post
    Thread of the day.
    Ya buddy.

    Originally Posted by Pikachew View Post
    Unaware and SRS. Honest question to OP: What constitutes a need for 5,000 calories a day? How has it impacted your progress, specifically weight vs fat gain? The reason I ask is because I've eaten +1000 calories over maintenance and although I gained weight quickly and fast, I also gained a lot of fat. So I wanted to know if this was an issue for you and if it isn't, what/how you are minimizing the amount of fat you are putting on.
    I've basically reached my genetic potential as a natural, so it takes more extreme measures to gain weight. Right now I'm going for broke for a month or so and eating bigger than normal. I don't care how much fat I gain, just as long as I gain weight. I know I'm adding muscle, and I know I'm adding fat. Once you get close to your genetic potential, you'll see the need for my approach.

    My workouts are very demanding as well, as I use my GST program which is a favorite of 1000s. I perform 4 hard weight training sessions per week, 1-2 light weight complex workouts, and maybe a little LI cardio in there as well. I'm still hungry every few hours when I eat like this, but I'm working hard, so it makes sense.

    Originally Posted by defury View Post
    Drop the nuts and make a PB and banana sandwich and probably hit the exact same macros

    Mmmm that sounds good.
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    Originally Posted by ko300zx View Post
    Such a cop out. I'm gone 8am - 9pm Monday through Friday and I eat whatever I want. I don't have to eat 2 loaves of plain bread and 30 protein shakes a week.
    You're comparing apples to oranges here. YOU and the OP not only lead completely different lifestyles, but have completely different goals and completely different physiques. Comparing your approach to his is not comparable by far

    And for people who do not read the thread before making asinine responses, you will realize that the OP has stated OVER AND OVER again that this is just what he ate for THAT day and his meals vary throughout the week, which he was going to continue to log on a daily basis.

    I'm still amazed at all the people on this page who continue to preach just hit your macros and yet still feel the need to get on the OP, who has obviously achieved proven results doing it his way and enjoys the benefits he receives from doing it this way, just because they don't find his meal choices "appealing" to them.
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    Originally Posted by beeboo12 View Post
    haha you're delusional.
    Anyone who says they know someone better than that person knows themselves is the delusional one, clearly. I think everyone in here would agree with that, except yourself, most likely.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to get a meal of boiled chicken (in triple distilled water of course), freshly harvested almonds, and raw yams....post workout meal at its best.....lol. No seasonings and I'll wash it down with organic water.
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    Originally Posted by JayAllen20 View Post
    You're comparing apples to oranges here. YOU and the OP not only lead completely different lifestyles, but have completely different goals and completely different physiques. Comparing your approach to his is not comparable by far

    And for people who do not read the thread before making asinine responses, you will realize that the OP has stated OVER AND OVER again that this is just what he ate for THAT day and his meals vary throughout the week, which he was going to continue to log on a daily basis.

    I'm still amazed at all the people on this page who continue to preach just hit your macros and yet still feel the need to get on the OP, who has obviously achieved proven results doing it his way and enjoys the benefits he receives from doing it this way, just because they don't find his meal choices "appealing" to them.
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    Originally Posted by beeboo12 View Post
    i accomplish the same thing, but my meals actually taste good and are enjoyable. have fun choking down that crap.
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    If you're stats are accurate, your approach isn't the whey to go either. Sorry, but have to bust the 'call out' out sometimes. Gimme a break.
    When are we going to get over the whole stats = knowledge thing? Jay Cutler doesn't know his ahole from his elbow when it comes to nutrition.
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    You've got about 12 years over me . Gimme a break.
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    Originally Posted by ko300zx View Post
    When are we going to get over the whole stats = knowledge thing? Jay Cutler doesn't know his ******* from his elbow when it comes to nutrition.
    Because if you ever bothered to do any research of your own on the OP you'd realize he's pretty knowledgeable himself. He's created a workout/nutritional program that has transformed many of his clients and has become a favorite of thousands on this forum alone. He not only created the program but has gone into specific details on everything involved in the program from training to nutrition, etc. etc. I'm not a user of his GST (although I will be trying it out in the future) program, but I have done my research and have followed his past logs, articles and videos enough to know the guy does know a little bit about what he's talking about
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    Thanks for posting photos of your food OP, that was cool of you.


    Can someone help me make a meal plan for about 3K calories a day with more tasty food choices please? (no fish or cottage cheese pls)
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    Originally Posted by Ric_Daddy View Post
    Thanks for posting photos of your food OP, that was cool of you.


    Can someone help me make a meal plan for about 3K calories a day with more tasty food choices please? (no fish or cottage cheese pls)
    Check this thread out, it'll help you a bit: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=126870753
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    Originally Posted by JayAllen20 View Post
    Because if you ever bothered to do any research of your own on the OP you'd realize he's pretty knowledgeable himself. He's created a workout/nutritional program that has transformed many of his clients and has become a favorite of thousands on this forum alone. He not only created the program but has gone into specific details on everything involved in the program from training to nutrition, etc. etc. I'm not a user of his GST (although I will be trying it out in the future) program, but I have done my research and have followed his past logs, articles and videos enough to know the guy does know a little bit about what he's talking about
    Sorry, but what the fck does anything you just said have anything to do with people claiming someones weight/height is directly related to their knowledge?
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    Sorry, but what the fck does anything you just said have anything to do with people claiming someones weight/height is directly related to their knowledge?
    Because I misunderstood your comment and thought it was directed at the OP in relation to his size > knowledge. I now realize it was directed at the OP in relation to his comment in regards to someone else's stats. I do digress.

    And there's no need for the language.. simma down now! :P
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    Originally Posted by JayAllen20 View Post
    Because I misunderstood your comment and thought it was directed at the OP in relation to his size > knowledge. I now realize it was directed at the OP in relation to his comment in regards to someone else's stats. I do digress.

    And there's no need for the language.. simma down now! :P
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    Jay,

    You have the potential to be a FREAK. You know that, right?
    Yea, I get told that a few times a day. HAHA. Thanks

    I'm working on it. A few bad injuries have set me back but other than a slight range of motion problem in my shoulder, which unfortunately prevents me from being able to Squat for now (can't hold the bar in the back squat position without it feeling like my shoulder is being torn from the socket) , I'm more or less good to go now! Just started cutting with the intents to compete in either the fall of 2011 or somewhere in 2012 depending on how I'm progressing over the next 5-6 months
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    Not related but change the whitebalance on your camera :P
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    Not related but change the whitebalance on your camera :P
    I'm using my phone.
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    WHere are the greens my man ? Other than that great post.
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    Originally Posted by deadlift_405 View Post
    WHere are the greens my man ? Other than that great post.
    Greens are a weak spot of mine. I neglect them all the time.

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    That's awesome. Can you post your workout too?
    See my sig! www.growthstimulustraining.com is the program I use.
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