List of whole food combinations...
I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding, which is why I initially asked for your definition of "clean foods".
Whole foods can contain a combination of unprocessed or minimally processed foods.
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02-10-2011, 09:10 AM #91
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02-10-2011, 09:14 AM #92
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02-10-2011, 09:19 AM #93
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02-10-2011, 09:21 AM #94
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02-10-2011, 09:30 AM #95
Great thread 2020 thanks for your help. Keep doin what you're doin, and ignore these attempts of people to crucify you for eating delicious food and over semantics of word choice, which everyone clearly and undoubtly knows what you mean when you say 'clean' regardless of a bodybuilding / dictionary definition. you'redoingitright.
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02-10-2011, 09:49 AM #96
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02-10-2011, 10:01 AM #97
Hmm, for me the way OP is doing is much better, simple plain and it (would) reach my requirments. I don't know about you guys, but if I have school/work I would not know how to make a egg omlete with cheese or any other of these fancy meals.
The meals OP stated are, in other hand very usefull even if you go to school/work. Packing those stuff together in the morning will take 15/20 mins and you're off.
I however do agree, if you're work is fitness and you can afford to make those meals - time, etc. Than I would have fancier meals.
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02-10-2011, 10:02 AM #98
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My two points seem to be getting lost. They are:
1. Given a 5,000 calorie daily budget, it's possible to eat much more enjoyable food (by the standards of most people's taste). This point is important, in my view, because a lot of folks are under the mistaken impression that food has to be relatively bland or even unpleasant in order to achieve good results in the gym. However, that's entirely untrue.
2. The meals are not particularly healthy as they lack significant amounts of fruit and vegetables, and there is a relatively high use of protein supplements.
To demonstrate point 1, I'll embed an image of one of the OP's meals and an image from the MEN thread of a alternative meal. If you can eat either and get the same results in the gym, and the MEN meal is even potentially healthier because of the micronutrient density, which would you select? Honestly, which one?
OP's Meal: Myofusion whey, Scivation whey, skim milk, oat bread, almonds, banana
MEN Meal: Salmon with Dill Sauce, Garden Vegetable Stew, Corn Nuggets, Veggies, Apple
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02-10-2011, 10:08 AM #99
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WonderPug;
Another point to mention is which is easier and more convenient to prepare for the average person trying to gain size.
Which is more portable?
Which is more complicated?
Which is more time consuming?
The fact is that those variables can easily make or break a person's ability to succeed at their nutrition plan.
There is always going to be a more appealing (to some) meal out there, as there are even more appealing (to some) meals to the one you just posted. Does that mean they should be eaten for every meal, or even regularly? NOPE. It all depends on the personal preference and abilities of the person doing the eating.
I have TONS of meal pictures that show variety. Some are even similar to the one you posted. But, do I eat them for every meal, NO. It doesn't make sense for me to do so from a time management stand point.
Get real WonderPug, you're just making yourself look like a jackass in this thread. I'm the one saying it, but from the only one thinking ittrainingwithryan.substack.com
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02-10-2011, 10:10 AM #100
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02-10-2011, 10:15 AM #101
I honestly don't know why you have to come into almost 75% of the threads on here Wonderpug and start the war about "clean foods" vs "dirty foods" because you have an issue with the definition people have on it. Theres a time and place, but seriously to come into another persons thread and start that every single time is just unecessary man. Chill out already. I could go deeper into how annoying you are when it comes down to it....but since I don't want to fuel this argument further to stray from OP's intentions of his thread....
Back on topic, I love to see the simplicity behind your meals OP. You had a pretty long thread back in the day that had a play by play of your meals and workouts from what I remember that I was subbed to. Whatever happened to that?
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02-10-2011, 10:21 AM #102
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Honestly, what some people choose to eat is up to them. I personally would find this boring as well but I understand his intentions. Some people eat to live and not live to eat, so their food choices can be incredibly bland.
I personally enjoy mixin' it up. I wouldn't eat that many meals and that's solely because I IF and prefer 2-3 larger meals. I don't think I could handle 5k cals and that's especially true since I'm a little dude (5'7"). Personally, I buy a lot of different meats and mix it up. I generally change it up from week-to-week. One thing I consistently have is a sandwich. Nothing beats the versatility and tastiness of a sandwich.
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02-10-2011, 10:30 AM #103
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02-10-2011, 10:30 AM #104
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02-10-2011, 10:35 AM #105
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02-10-2011, 10:42 AM #106
Clean or not that diet looks super boring, if it works for you awesome but there is so many more interesting food combos that are still "clean" (quotes because clean is a dumb term anyway) but also have amazing flavor, chicken fajitas in a corn tortilla for example.
But hey it clearly works for you, I would go crazy without some variety and creativity in my food though.
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02-10-2011, 10:44 AM #107
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02-10-2011, 12:20 PM #112
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02-10-2011, 12:22 PM #113
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02-10-2011, 12:26 PM #114
Unaware and SRS. Honest question to OP: What constitutes a need for 5,000 calories a day? How has it impacted your progress, specifically weight vs fat gain? The reason I ask is because I've eaten +1000 calories over maintenance and although I gained weight quickly and fast, I also gained a lot of fat. So I wanted to know if this was an issue for you and if it isn't, what/how you are minimizing the amount of fat you are putting on.
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02-10-2011, 12:33 PM #116
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this is why every single person is different, what works for u and what works for him may be totally different. u may like to eat a variety and that works for you. Maybe OP likes this diet because it work for him and fits into his schedule. So for u to come in here like that is real cool of u brah. U seem like one of the mr know it all and have to chime in no matter what.
"For me life is continuously being hungry. The meaning of life is not simply to exist, to survive, but to move ahead, to go up, to achieve, to conquer."
-Arnold Schwarzenegger
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