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    Fasting for Size? Not Unless I'm Broke!

    Meal 1
    8oz Skim Milk - 100 calories
    2 Scoops Scivation Whey - 200 calories
    1 Serving Walnuts - 200 calories
    3 Servings Oats - 450 calories
    25g Brown Sugar - 100 calories

    Total - 1050 calories


    Meal 2
    1 Scoop Myofusion Whey - 140 calories
    1 Scoop Scivation Whey - 100 calories
    12oz Skim Milk - 150 calories
    3 Slices Oat Bread - 360 calories
    1 Serving Almonds - 160 calories
    1 Banana - 100 calories

    Total - 1000 calories


    Meal 3
    3 Servings Cottage Cheese w/ Blueberries - 350 calories
    8oz Skim Milk - 200 calories
    2 Slices Oat Bread - 240 calories
    1 Serving Almonds - 160 calories

    Total - 950 calories


    Meal 4
    8 oz Skim Milk - 100 calories
    1 Scoop Scivation Whey - 100 calories
    2 Servings Almonds - 320 calories
    2 3/4 Servings Beef Jerky - 220 calories
    1 Serving Guacamole Chips - 150 calories

    Total - 900 calories


    Meal 5
    6oz Dark Chicken Meat - 400 calories
    3oz White Chicken Meat - 100 calories
    16oz Skim Milk - 200 calories
    3 Pumpkin Protein Cookies - 240 calories

    Total - 940 calories


    I also had a serving of SizeOn and Superpump250, which brings the total daily intake to 5030 calories.
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    I can think of so many ways to have so much more fun with 5,000 calories.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I can think of so many ways to have so much more fun with 5,000 calories.
    Sounds like a quote from American Pie to me.

    On a serious note though, there is no way I'm going to be eating junk on a daily basis to get my cals in. Keeping it clean is the way to go IMO.
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    Keeping it clean is the way to go IMO.
    Are you saying that you wash your food?
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    Nice, Ryan! I'm full just looking at it.
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    Originally Posted by mr_ben View Post
    nice... nom nom
    The fact that this diet can elicit this type of response says a whole lot about how the kinds of things people eat on a day to day basis.

    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I can think of so many ways to have so much more fun with 5,000 calories.
    I know what a waste......so boring!

    I should make a new thread "2.8K in a Day"....it would be infinitely more exciting
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    Sounds like a quote from American Pie to me.

    On a serious note though, there is no way I'm going to be eating junk on a daily basis to get my cals in. Keeping it clean is the way to go IMO.
    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Are you saying that you wash your food?
    "Nutrition for powerlifting: If you are serious about it, you will eat f*cking everything and get strong as $hit." - HamburgerTrain
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Are you saying that you wash your food?
    Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.........

    Originally Posted by matt_nyc View Post
    looks delicious
    Thanks!

    Originally Posted by JValjean724 View Post
    The fact that this diet can elicit this type of response says a whole lot about how the kinds of things people eat on a day to day basis.
    Pretty much everything in those pictures tastes awesome.

    I know what a waste......so boring!

    I should make a new thread "2.8K in a Day"....it would be infinitely more exciting.
    The thing is that you view 5K as cheat day most likely, I view it a daily intake right now. If I did something like 8K in a day, then I'd want to eat some junk. But 5K, I don't think so.
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    Could just eat 2 lbs of slab bacon. I would not. But thats just me. But as far as body composition goes it really does not matter as long as it fits in your macros.

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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    Lol, I'm not going to feed into that crap Erick. I'm aware of the 'clean' dilemma, and I prefer to eat clean foods the majority of the time and call those foods clean, regardless of what others say about the term 'clean.'
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    Originally Posted by PJR23 View Post
    Could just eat 2 lbs of slab bacon. I would not. But thats just me. But as far as body composition goes it really does not matter as long as it fits in your macros.

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    Had to laugh at that last line. I'll give you $1000.00 to eat solely 2lbs of bacon every day for a year and we'll see how your body handles it.
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    I prefer to eat clean foods the majority of the time and call those foods clean, regardless of what others say about the term 'clean.'
    I'm always shocked when people use the term "clean food", as if it has any meaning. Basically, you're just saying "I eat the food that I think I'm suposed to eat". That's very informative.

    That said, I'm really curious about how you define "clean food".
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    only quoting what gets preached on here daily bro. Not saying i agree ,as i tend to eat more like you. I feel better when i eat "healthier" options. If you say that on here though you get crucified because body composition and being healthy are two different entities. Again, I prefer to eat healthier than bacon and my comment was in jest.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I'm always shocked when people use the term "clean food", as if it has any meaning. Basically, you're just saying "I eat the food that I think I'm suposed to eat". That's very informative.

    That said, I'm really curious about how you define "clean food".
    No offense, but I'm not getting into this debate with you. I posted up my meals because people have been asking me for them, specifically how to get 5K in a day.

    This is not a thread to debate clean vs. dirty, or whether or not the term 'clean' is a term that should even be used.

    I use the term 'clean' when helping people, and people love what I do for them. It gets the point across, and people relate to it and understand it. Therefore, I'll keep using it.
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    only quoting what gets preached on here daily bro. Not saying i agree ,as i tend to eat more like you. I feel better when i eat "healthier" options. If you say that on here though you get crucified because body composition and being healthy are two different entities. Again, I prefer to eat healthier than bacon and my comment was in jest.
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    See Bold.
    I wasn't referring to cheating at all, though for me yes 5k would be quite the cheat. The term "junk food" to me has no meaning.

    My main point was that if I was going to start a new thread with the sole purpose of showing off my diet I'd make sure my diet was more exciting than eating a bunch of plain bread and whey shakes all day.
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    I use the term 'clean' when helping people, and people love what I do for them. It gets the point across, and people relate to it and understand it. Therefore, I'll keep using it.
    At least you didn't try to define the term. Most times, when people go that route, it getting pretty darn comical.

    By the way, the easiest way to get to 5,000 calories is to eat calorically dense foods. Products like skim milk, skinless checken and an abundance of protein shakes isn't the most volume efficient or (to many people) tastiest way to consume a relatively high volume of calories. And it's not even the "healthiest", as whole foods are clearly superior to an overdependance on protein supplements.
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    5 scoops of whey and 5 slices of bread with nothing on them or in between them?

    Where's the steak and potato?
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    At least you didn't try to define the term. Most times, when people go that route, it getting pretty darn comical.

    By the way, the easiest way to get to 5,000 calories is to eat calorically dense foods. Products like skim milk, skinless checken and an abundance of protein shakes isn't the most volume efficient or (to many people) tastiest way to consume a relatively high volume of calories. And it's not even the "healthiest", as whole foods are clearly superior to an overdependance on protein supplements.
    I have my definitions, just not getting into it.

    If by calorically dense, you mean fatty, I had my almonds, walnuts, and dark chicken meat. I'm not going to base my meals around fats though, as they would eat up my calories and leave me with little room for protein and carbs. Protein and carbs are important to me.
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    5 scoops of whey and 5 slices of bread with nothing on them or in between them?

    Where's the steak and potato?
    I had beef the other day, as well as sweet potatoes. Keep in mind, this is just one day.
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    I'm not going to base my meals around fats though, as they would eat up my calories and leave me with little room for protein and carbs. Protein and carbs are important to me.
    You only need at the absolute most 300 grams of protein and that's aiming at the outer band of physiological requirements (assuming no special "supplements") and you have 5,000 calories to play with.

    Thus, protein requirements are met in, at most, 1,200 calories. Let's say you want to eat 400 grams of carbs, with is a high intake for someone of your bodyweight. That's another 1,600 calories. Now you have room for 2,200 calories of yummy fat. Yes, that means you can have a steak and not just "supplement with nuts for fat".

    I think you're selecting foods based on this magical concept that "clean foods" are "better" and not based on an analysis of micro/macronutrient sufficiency.
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    You only need at the absolute most 300 grams of protein and that's aiming at the outer band of physiological requirements (assuming no special "supplements") and you have 5,000 calories to play with.

    Thus, protein requirements are met in, at most, 1,200 calories. Let's say you want to eat 400 grams of carbs, with is a high intake for someone of your bodyweight. That's another 1,600 calories. Now you have room for 2,200 calories of yummy fat. Yes, that means you can have a steak and not just "supplement with nuts for fat".

    I think you're selecting foods based on this magical concept that "clean foods" are "better" and not based on an analysis of micro/macronutrient sufficiency.


    Do you know who you are talking to??!!

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    ^ An expert at what, cleaning food?
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    You only need at the absolute most 300 grams of protein and that's aiming at the outer band of physiological requirements (assuming no special "supplements") and you have 5,000 calories to play with.

    Thus, protein requirements are met in, at most, 1,200 calories. Let's say you want to eat 400 grams of carbs, with is a high intake for someone of your bodyweight. That's another 1,600 calories. Now you have room for 2,200 calories of yummy fat. Yes, that means you can have a steak and not just "supplement with nuts for fat".

    I think you're selecting foods based on this magical concept that "clean foods" are "better" and not based on an analysis of micro/macronutrient sufficiency.
    Based on your last statement, you're incorrect on what youre assuming I think. You're talking to me like I'm a rookie or something. I view foods as primary macronutrient sources. I prefer to eat food that supply mainly one macronutrient, which tends to keep things simple and eliminate man made food products. Chances are, if a food contains a bunch of carb and fat calories, its far from natural. Of course there are exceptions when it comes to protein/fat combo foods, but rarely carb/fat foods.

    I'm sure you have a different opinion, which doesn't bother me. You do your way, ill keep doing my way, and when I'm 43, we can compare my progress with your current state That keeps it simple. That seems fair, doesn't it?
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    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    I prefer to eat food that supply mainly one macronutrient, which tends to keep things simple and eliminate man made food products.
    I'm just trying to let people know that doing what you do isn't necessary by any reasonable stretch of the imagination. It will have absolutely no special impact on bodyweight or composition. None. Zero. Nada. Period. Full stop.

    Originally Posted by 2020Wellness View Post
    Chances are, if a food contains a bunch of carb and fat calories, its far from natural.
    That's ridiculous. It's equivalent of saying that if food has calories, it probably far from natural.

    A wide range of natural, whole foods, include red meat, fish, fowl, eggs, nuts and milk contain mixes of macronutrients including fat, protein and, yes, even carbs.
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    Some math is wrong there bro.

    Meal 3 Milk is off. That Banana will weigh less than the typical 25-27g carb banana, if you've ever had to weigh one....you'll see. That's just some, there are others but nonetheless with 5000 calories I'd have more fun. Each to their own but I praise you for being able to consume that without getting fat.

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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    Are you saying that you wash your food?
    see you having this argument in different threads like every single day lmao i agree basically agree with you though.

    The only food i would consider "dirty" are for e.g cakes (and **** in that catergorie) along with take aways. For the simple reason they are loaded with fat and contain huge amounts of calories. One large pizza can fill up a daily requirement of calories.

    Other than that i consider any other food fine to eat on any diet, cutting or bulking.
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    I'm just trying to let people know that doing what you do isn't necessary by any reasonable stretch of the imagination. It will have absolutely no special impact on bodyweight or composition. None. Zero. Nada. Period. Full stop.
    Did I say it would have a special impact? Why are you arguing with your own points? Why is your way any more necessary than mine? By the way, can you lay out a day of your own nutrition so I can see how it differs so much?

    That's ridiculous. It's equivalent of saying that if food has calories, it probably far from natural.
    Not at all.

    A wide range of natural, whole foods, include red meat, fish, fowl, eggs, nuts and milk contain mixes of macronutrients including fat, protein and, yes, even carbs.
    Give me 10 examples of foods that contain a good portion of their calories from both fats and carbs, which aren't produced in a factory. I think that is a reasonable request, given your quoted claim.
    See Bold. Also, I asked you a question at the end of my last post. I asked you if my proposition seemed fair. Does it?
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