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    Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort will not be a competitive fight

    It's sad that I ever have to come out and say this, but there are plenty of idiots who always buy the hype for these fights. I told everyone GSP vs. Kos would be a waste of time and not competitive at all, yet there were plenty of morons who actually bought into the hype.

    So I'm gonna say it again.

    Vitor Belfort is coming off a one-year layoff to fight the #1 or #2 fighter in the world.

    Oh, ok.

    Anderson Silva has better everything. Vitor does not have one advantage coming into this fight except the random possibility of a flash-ko. That's it. That's the only way he can win.

    So how is this fight gonna go? With Anderson Silva completely dominating Vitor anywhere the fight goes. I can't predict how (or if) Anderson will finish him, because Anderson is so inconsistent with his performances. I know it's going to be a pathetic one-sided beating.
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    OP is probably right, and has proven to be a wizard in the past.
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    Like you, I feel pretty confident that Silva will win. I think Vitor presents a different kind of challenge for Anderson with his power and hand speed specifically. And I hope he does. I want to see Anderson pushed for the first time in a while, and hopefully rise up to KO Belfort... But not quick. I don't pay $45 for a 45 second flash ko's. So I'll say 4th Rd.
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    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    Like you, I feel pretty confident that Silva will win. I think Vitor presents a different kind of challenge for Anderson with his power and hand speed specifically. And I hope he does. I want to see Anderson pushed for the first time in a while, and hopefully rise up to KO Belfort... But not quick. I don't pay $45 for a 45 second flash ko's. So I'll say 4th Rd.
    pushed for the first time in a while? what did you call the sonnen fight? Sure he beat chael but I would say that was a good push
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    Its MMA, and anything can happen, so I see belfort catching silva and getting a tko at some point. Hopefully.
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    i agree, i think anderson silva will play with vitor and pick him apart
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    Originally Posted by nodnarb481 View Post
    pushed for the first time in a while? what did you call the sonnen fight? Sure he beat chael but I would say that was a good push
    I figured someone would say that.

    He rocked him once, yeah.

    But I have a strong feeling that if it were a 3 round fight, that triangle would have come at the end if the 3rd.

    I'm not sure Anderson was feeling much of a sense if urgency there.
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    I agree. I wonder if Belfort will try to grapple in this fight. IIRC he tried to grapple with Liddell and he instigated a grappling match against Overeem.
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    pretty much what i thought






    brb vitor is an elite striker lulz, only reason people say that is because he has taken down opponents with flash ko's cause of his speed and aggression like op said, hes striking isnt accurate, his choice of strikes in his fights are predictable, etc.




    Anderson is the complete opposite
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    Originally Posted by bigbawlsy View Post
    pretty much what i thought






    brb vitor is an elite striker lulz, only reason people say that is because he has taken down opponents with flash ko's cause of his speed and aggression like op said, hes striking isnt accurate, his choice of strikes in his fights are predictable, etc.




    Anderson is the complete opposite

    Striking isn't accurate and predictable? Tell that to Franklin, Lindland, and Wanderlei Silva. Vitor has some of the best hands in the game, he was pro boxing caliber at one point.
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    I agree Vitor will win by tko/ko or not at all. On paper silva has it but i kinda have a bad gut feeling for silva coming into this one. Of course i had the same feeling going into the sonnen fight and thought i was right until the 5th round. I also think its more likely vitor gets the ko then anderson getting it.
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    Originally Posted by Gomi View Post
    Its MMA, and anything can happen, so I see belfort catching silva and getting a tko at some point.
    Well that solidifies it then, Anderson is going to win.
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    Originally Posted by battousai216 View Post
    I also think its more likely vitor gets the ko then anderson getting it.
    Why is that? Anderson's never been ko'd.. and he has pretty much massacred everyone willing to stand with him... guys who normally don't easily get ko'd.
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    Originally Posted by Gomi View Post
    Striking isn't accurate and predictable? Tell that to Franklin, Lindland, and Wanderlei Silva. Vitor has some of the best hands in the game, he was pro boxing caliber at one point.
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    if you have any footage of his live fighting where his strikes are crisply thrown, and are not flurries of hooks or straights, which IS predictable striking, please show it to me.
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    Originally Posted by Priapus View Post
    Well that solidifies it then, Anderson is going to win.
    I lol'd.
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    Lol'd hard @ predicting Kos / GSP 2 was one sided. Obvious prediction is obvious.

    Vitor Belfort's wrestling > Anderson Silva's wrestling
    Vitor Belfort's hand speed > Anderson Silva's hand speed

    Vitor may not have fought in a while, and that will for sure be a factor in the later rounds, but this is not Koscheck vs. GSP. Are you forgetting Vitor used to fight at HW and LHW? Dude has ridiculous power. Who has ever hurt Rich Franklin as quick and effectively as he did?

    There are some unanswered questions about his skill-set but don't do yourself a disservice and listen to the OP, because this fight will not be as one sided as Kos / GSP 2.

    Not only is Vitor a game opponent, he's the only shot the MW division has of dethroning Anderson Silva as their runaway champ.

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    To be fair Brawn, Anderson murdered Rich quickly, too.
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    I think Vitor will back Anderson up and embarrass him with his speed. Hey if Sonnen can land on Anderson that many times, I think Vitor will have no problem.
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    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    To be fair Brawn, Anderson murdered Rich quickly, too.
    Twice, too! The only two men who put Franklin away in spectacular fashion. Vitor did it even faster.

    Of course MMA math doesn't always add up but if you setup the equation between Andy / Belfort; the variables will give you seizures.
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    Originally Posted by Von Brawn View Post
    Vitor Belfort's wrestling > Anderson Silva's wrestling
    Vitor Belfort's hand speed > Anderson Silva's hand speed
    Andersons Reach > Belforts Reach
    Adnersons Technique > Beflorts Technique

    I'm not sure Belfort still has that lightning speed he used to.

    Originally Posted by Von Brawn View Post
    Are you forgetting Vitor used to fight at HW and LHW? Dude has ridiculous power.
    When he was much younger and juiced up? When you drop 30-40 lbs of muscle and quit the roids you lose some of that rediculous power.

    Originally Posted by Von Brawn View Post
    Who has ever hurt Rich Franklin as quick and effectively as he did?
    Anderson. He re-arranged rich's face permanently.

    After injuries and year long layoff Vitor is significant underdog.
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    Andersons Reach > Belforts Reach
    Adnersons Technique > Beflorts Technique
    OP said Anderson is better everywhere. My post was to show him that Belfort has distinct advantages, I'm well aware Anderson outmatches Belfort, on paper, in other categories.

    I'm not sure Belfort still has that lightning speed he used to.
    The speed he TKO'd Linland and Franklin with?

    When he was much younger and juiced up? When you drop 30-40 lbs of muscle and quit the roids you lose some of that rediculous power.
    Not sure if srs? True, some power definitely comes from muscular strength, but don't fool yourself into thinking there's a large discrepancy.

    Anderson. He re-arranged rich's face permanently.
    My original meant to imply setting up the MMA math that Vitor and Anderson had a similar recent opponent in Franklin. BSpit corrected me and I stated it explicitly

    After injuries and year long layoff Vitor is significant underdog.
    Mind = blown. An underdog? Source?

    How can he be an underdog, going into a fight with the #1P4P fighter on the planet?
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    Originally Posted by bigbawlsy View Post
    flash ko's brah



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    if you have any footage of his live fighting where his strikes are crisply thrown, and are not flurries of hooks or straights, which IS predictable striking, please show it to me.

    You're describing crisp accurate striking right there. What he put wand down with was how you're supposed to do it.
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    Originally Posted by Von Brawn View Post
    Not sure if srs? True, some power definitely comes from muscular strength, but don't fool yourself into thinking there's a large discrepancy.
    Is that why we see so many knockouts at 155?
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    Is that why we see so many knockouts at 155?
    searching for info and found this

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/10/1...d-weight-class

    touche.

    however, Vitor is not a 155'er, and is still capable of KTFO of anybody in the MW division. Guess we'll have to wait until Saturday to see if he can pull it off
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    Originally Posted by Von Brawn View Post
    however, Vitor is not a 155'er, and is still capable of KTFO of anybody in the MW division. Guess we'll have to wait until Saturday to see if he can pull it off
    I would agree.. after seeing him take rich so easily he def. is dangerous. But again, that fight was at 195, for this fight he still has to drop another 10 lbs. He's only had 2 fights at 185 (2+ years ago). With the weight cut and layoff it certainly could be 1-sided.
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    Originally Posted by jamez123 View Post
    Is that why we see so many knockouts at 155?
    there are more differences between 155ers and hws then muscluar strength. There have been some really jacked guys with little ko power and some flabby looking duded with lots of it.
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    Vitor does not have faster hand speed or power.

    He does not have better wrestling or BJJ.

    These are common misconceptions.
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    Originally Posted by Von Brawn View Post
    Lol'd hard @ predicting Kos / GSP 2 was one sided. Obvious prediction is obvious.

    Vitor Belfort's wrestling > Anderson Silva's wrestling
    Vitor Belfort's hand speed > Anderson Silva's hand speed

    Vitor may not have fought in a while, and that will for sure be a factor in the later rounds, but this is not Koscheck vs. GSP. Are you forgetting Vitor used to fight at HW and LHW? Dude has ridiculous power. Who has ever hurt Rich Franklin as quick and effectively as he did?

    There are some unanswered questions about his skill-set but don't do yourself a disservice and listen to the OP, because this fight will not be as one sided as Kos / GSP 2.

    Not only is Vitor a game opponent, he's the only shot the MW division has of dethroning Anderson Silva as their runaway champ.

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    Originally Posted by battousai216 View Post
    there are more differences between 155ers and hws then muscluar strength. There have been some really jacked guys with little ko power and some flabby looking duded with lots of it.
    body weight/mass are directly related to power of punches.. vitor is much smaller than when he was a HW. That's the point.
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