The F35 fighter program is gonna cost $380,000,000,000.00+

[WhatUpDoee]

[Attaus]

its ok we have the money for it

[ToPHeR35]

Almost half a stimulus....

[leafs43]

That's a lot of zeros.

[bmy-]

and it's worth every penny, unless you want to play second fiddle to china.

[bmontgomery87]

link to story?


thats ridiculous

[bmy-]

link to story?

thats ridiculous

yahoo front page. it's absolutely a fantastic investment. unless you want to be a second class military country.. aka a second class country period.

we're going to turn into fukking england if the military gets hit with budget cuts. NASA already got hit, military is next.

[leafs43]

yahoo front page. it's absolutely a fantastic investment. unless you want to be a second class military country.. aka a second class country period.

we're going to turn into fukking england if the military gets hit with budget cuts. NASA already got hit, military is next.

It's a lot of money for sure and pretty deplorable and seems like a waste.


Then again from the article its 382 billion over the span of 15 years. It's not 382 billion right now.

[NeverStopMoving]

what a damn waste.

[adoniscomplex]

and it's worth every penny, unless you want to play second fiddle to china.

yes keeping up with the jones is how we should think when spending our tax dollars

[RunningStrong]

It's a lot of money, but it it's a very exportable plane.


Oh wait, except it's grossly over-budget and no longer viable as a value-for-money aircraft.

[bmy-]

It's a lot of money for sure and pretty deplorable and seems like a waste.

Then again from the article its 382 billion over the span of 15 years. It's not 382 billion right now.

Not to mention that the project was started while our economy was thriving. It should be done in 5 years, we're 2/3rds of the way through, and it needs to get finished.

yes keeping up with the jones is how we should think when spending our tax dollars

Uh, yes. Maintaining a superior military should be priority #2 at worst. We're effectively entering into a technology battle with China.. and if they win, well, goodnight sweet U.S. Having a second-class air program = second class army. Our entire military would take a step back. Seriously, our military playing second fiddle to China is bad news.

It's a lot of money, but it it's a very exportable plane.


Oh wait, except it's grossly over-budget and no longer viable as a value-for-money aircraft.

As the article said.. it's literally to big to fail. As it should be. Scrapping the project or putting out a half-assed product would set development back 10 years and hundreds of billions of dollars.

[TheSituation651]

Not to mention that the project was started while our economy was thriving. It should be done in 5 years, we're 2/3rds of the way through, and it needs to get finished.



Uh, yes. Maintaining a superior military should be priority #2 at worst. We're effectively entering into a technology battle with China.. and if they win, well, goodnight sweet U.S. Having a second-class air program = second class army. Our entire military would take a step back. Seriously, our military playing second fiddle to China is bad news.



As the article said.. it's literally to big to fail. As it should be. Scrapping the project or putting out a half-assed product would set development back 10 years and hundreds of billions of dollars.

Geez I thought I was the only republican on this site.. Repped

[SaviorSix]

So if China gets F35 fighter jets, they instantly win a war?

huh....

I doubt that would even give them any advantage by itself.

[Slacker2]

I might be dead wrong here, and I hope I am, but I remember hearing that the f22 program only cost about 20-25 billion dollars.

[bmy-]

So if China gets F35 fighter jets, they instantly win a war?

huh....

I doubt that would even give them any advantage by itself.

They do not instantly win a war. But you would give them a major advantage in two aspects of warfare.. air and ground. Not to mention that if China has F35 caliber fighters.. their allies will as well. Playing second fiddle to them weakens the U.S in a major way, how hard is that to understand?

I think the cost is obscene.. but sometimes things are worth paying for. I actually like the way the military is headed.. the focus is on intelligence and unconventional warfare (spec ops, forces, etc). But if there's one area a military can't afford to skimp on.. it's air superiority.

I might be dead wrong here, and I hope I am, but I remember hearing that the f22 program only cost about 20-25 billion dollars.

65 billion, a long time ago.

[WhatUpDoee]

They do not instantly win a war. But you would give them a major advantage in two aspects of warfare.. air and ground. Not to mention that if China has F35 caliber fighters.. their allies will as well. Playing second fiddle to them weakens the U.S in a major way, how hard is that to understand?

I see what you're saying, but I think most people are suprised with the sheer cost of it.

[anonymous]

itt, hope in humanity is lost

[Moh7]

how advanced is the Chinese/Russian latest jets in comparison to ours?

[nakedsnake]

it's all good, we got a machine that prints money.

[Funds]

yes keeping up with the jones is how we should think when spending our tax dollars

when the Jones' will invade you, yes, that is how we should think about it.

[Chowboy]

Almost half a stimulus....

^^^^^^^
This!!!

One trillion dollars, no "shovel ready" projects.

The F-35 Program will employ thousands of people. From highly educated engineers to barely educated assemblers. And these jobs are all across America. And it is not jobs for the sake of jobs. When all is said and done, the US will actually have product that is usable and valuable.

Not sure we can say that about the Obama stimulus.

[Spetsnazos]

ITT republicans would rather the poor spend money on planes that defend the rich.

[Chowboy]

ITT republicans would rather the poor spend money on planes that defend the rich.

The poor pay taxes? Hmm, news to me. I guess the EITC thing was just a lie...

[Spetsnazos]

^^^^^^^
This!!!

One trillion dollars, no "shovel ready" projects.

The F-35 Program will employ thousands of people. From highly educated engineers to barely educated assemblers. And these jobs are all across America. And it is not jobs for the sake of jobs. When all is said and done, the US will actually have product that is usable and valuable.

Not sure we can say that about the Obama stimulus.

lol you have no single clue as to how the aerospace programs are ran. I'd like to work on one though

[Spetsnazos]

The poor pay taxes? Hmm, news to me.

Open a newspaper one of these days or read a book then and you might learn a thing or two

[Attaus]

and it's worth every penny, unless you want to play second fiddle to china.

yeah because they already have F22's amirite?

[Chowboy]

lol you have no single clue as to how the aerospace programs are ran. I'd like to work on one though

Son, I have worked in Aerospace for 30, no, 31 yrs now.

Currently a Program Mgr with sales of over $20M per year.

[Spetsnazos]

Son, I have worked in Aerospace for 30, no, 31 yrs now.

Currently a Program Mgr with sales of over $20M per year.

Look no one wants to see budget cuts to their industry because obv they will be out of a job, so I understand where you are coming from.

I much rather the military budget be redirected into space programs that will benefit all of mankind in the future instead of making some super agile stealth fighter with short range >_>

[Kane_89]

yahoo front page. it's absolutely a fantastic investment. unless you want to be a second class military country.. aka a second class country period.

we're going to turn into fukking england if the military gets hit with budget cuts. NASA already got hit, military is next.

How is this an "investment"?