Why is this so hard?

[x-trainer ben]

http://www.mediaite.com/politics/bun...kership-chaos/

So can anyone explain to me why doing this is so hard and who are the 2 factions or groups debating here?
Washington expects a closure or shutdown soon( under 45 days), and i don't know R politics well enough to understand this.

[IronCharles]

Why is this so hard?

It can never be too hard.


At least, that's what I've been told.

[mtpockets]

Why is this so hard?

[Kilted100]

I believe some republicans have final seen you can’t compromise with democrats and want someone who will finally stand up for America. The democrats never give up anything and republicans always give in. That’s why we are in such a terrible state of affairs. If you don’t believe that, then why do have 34 trillion in debt and trans/gay everything.

[crupiea]

We see the speaker as some sort of leader.

Politicians see the speaker as the best fund raiser. Thats why they always picked pelosi. Damn sure wasnt because of her popularity or political acumen. She was a good fund raiser they all benefitted from.

This is the struggle we are seeing play out. The people they have nominated clearly arent that good at fund raising.

None of this has anything to do with the nation or the people.

[Narrator02]

I believe some republicans have final seen you can’t compromise with democrats and want someone who will finally stand up for America. The democrats never give up anything and republicans always give in. That’s why we are in such a terrible state of affairs. If you don’t believe that, then why do have 34 trillion in debt and trans/gay everything.

that is the dumbest thing I've read in quite a while

[x-trainer ben]

Rep. Jim Jordan's allies were shocked that ***he didn't receive the needed votes to become House speaker**** despite running all but unopposed, according to Bloomberg.

Jordan is the current front-runner for the GOP's House speaker position, but he lost the first race when he opposed Steve Scalise. Then, after Scalise dropped from the race, Jordan ran again and still came significantly short of enough votes to secure speakership.

That was a surprise to those close to the representative, according to reports.

[JohnMardock]

Unfortunately, the Republicans are always at a loss for words, as can be seen by the actions that the Democrats are carrying out, and the effects they are having. Radical changes need to be made on many levels, because as bad as things are now, it's been a long time since that has happened, and there's no light at the end of the tunnel.

[Narrator02]

They should vote to put Jeffries as the speaker. That way, both sides will be forced to work together to get actual work done to benefit our country.

[Redfish225]

I believe some republicans have final seen you can’t compromise with democrats and want someone who will finally stand up for America. The democrats never give up anything and republicans always give in. That’s why we are in such a terrible state of affairs. If you don’t believe that, then why do have 34 trillion in debt and trans/gay everything.

Wow, lol.

[7Seconds]

They should vote to put Jeffries as the speaker. That way, both sides will be forced to work together to get actual work done to benefit our country.

It's a nice thought, but it's not going to happen. It's possible, though unlikely, that the GOP nominates someone like Emmer who gets around 200 GOP votes and then the Dems provide the remaining votes in exchange for concessions. The most likely outcome though is that they let McHenry have slightly more power (namely to pass a 2 month CR on Nov 17 and to bring up votes on funding packages for Ukraine and Israel) and punt on electing a Speaker until the new Congress in January.

Although if enough of the GOP caucus gets sick of the Freedom caucus that they throw down a gauntlet and temporarily change the House rules so that a Speaker is elected by plurality rather than majority (this has happened before). It would force the FC to choose between getting behind the non-FC Republican or allowing Jeffries to become Speaker. If the FC were to hold their ground, Jeffries would win the gavel.

[x-trainer ben]

1. Jim Jordan loses first vote for House speaker amid GOP defections

Breaking Tuesday at 2:15pm, clown world.

"Fox’s Trey Gowdy Reports House Republicans Are At Each Other’s Throats and ‘Trying Couples Counseling For People Who Want to Kill Each Other’"

2. House goes into recess on 14th day of Speaker madness: Jim Jordan falls short in disastrous first bid to replace McCarthy - as TWENTY colleagues vote against him in more embarrassing scenes from Congress

[x-trainer ben]

House speaker race: Republican Tom Emmer becomes THIRD candidate to drop out after Donald Trump came out against his bid
Emmer's bid took a major hit when Donald Trump came out swinging against him on Truth Social
The House Majority Whip's decision to drop out of the race came on the 21st day without a House speaker

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ainst-bid.html

[mtpockets]

Donald Trump came out swinging against him on Truth Social

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House speaker race: Republican Tom Emmer becomes THIRD candidate to drop out after Donald Trump came out against his bid
Emmer's bid took a major hit when Donald Trump came out swinging against him on Truth Social

Apparently, Trump didn’t stop Tom Emmer, Jesus did. vvvvv

Rep. RICK ALLEN, Georgia Republican, told TOM EMMER in close House GOP conference meeting that the Minnesota Republican didn't need to get right with him, he needed to "get right with Jesus" because Emmer supported gay marriage.

https://x.com/jakesherman/status/171...D3Bfn63DOLnnXw

The House Majority Whip's decision to drop out of the race came on the 21st day without a House speaker

Tom Emmer being the majority whip and not being able to actually whip anywhere close enough to the amount of votes needed speaks to numerous problems in itself within the Republican conference.

[mtpockets]

[mtpockets]

Why is this so hard?

[7Seconds]

Chair of House Ways and Means, Jason Smith , says Matt Gaetz “is a foolish liar.” Gaetz then responds by appearing to out him as a closeted gay man. Guess that was about 24 hours of unity for the House GOP.

Gaetz: "There might not be another member of Congress who lives a lie every day more than Jason Smith, and Jason Smith knows exactly what I'm talking about — and by the way so does almost every member of the House Republican caucus."

https://x.com/anthonyadragna/status/...D3Bfn63DOLnnXw