Republicans aware me. (srs)

[P51]

Why do people vote republican? Aren't they looking out for the rich and big business? And if my calculations are correct, most of America isn't rich.

Maybe I was taught wrong, so aware me.

[EMAW]

Why wouldn't I want to continue success?

[P51]

Why wouldn't I want to continue success?

But you aren't rich, you aren't reaping the benifits.

Hell my parents are millionares and don't even vote republican all the time.

[hansie]

I am not republican, but true conservatives just want smaller govt. Less taxation, and less govt involvement in their life.

[WhiskeyBent3]

But you aren't rich, you aren't reaping the benifits.

Hell my parents are millionares and don't even vote republican all the time.

how do you know what his income may be in the future?

[huckknows]

because I do not want to really tax the rich as much as I want all the damn social programs to be shut down.

Medicare
Medicade
Social Security
Welfare

stop all of them, they are not working, do not just be like well we can fix them, we need to have them fail and start over, just like we should have done with the damn banks and auto makers. businesses should fail if they are ****ing up, and I think the same rule should apply to social programs.

Then don't just tax the rich more, tax everyone across the board more. This country pays less then others and no wonder we are ****ed.

[TeeR4v_Gainer]

its a myth that voting republican means looking out for the rich.

in all honesty, voting conservative is looking out for all.

rich get to keep more money but so does the middle class (or anyone who pays taxes)


all this means is that conservatism is about getting govt out of the way so american people and business can continue to take risks with their money and to try and grow and expand.

[whiskey55]

From what I understand, most republicans vote as they do because of social/religious issues, not financial.

[MrNippers]

its a myth that voting republican means looking out for the rich.

in all honesty, voting conservative is looking out for all.

rich get to keep more money but so does the middle class (or anyone who pays taxes)


all this means is that conservatism is about getting govt out of the way so american people and business can continue to take risks with their money and to try and grow and expand.

Wow, we actually have a few people on the misc with brains.

[-TC-]

I am not republican, but true conservatives just want smaller govt. Less taxation, and less govt involvement in their life.

this. I might agree with higher taxes if they didnt waste money like crazy, like providing the poor with cellphones, more welfare for more kids, etc

[snp1686]

was going to come in here and school op, but i see it has already been nicely covered

[Caesar735]

do you want more taxes or less?
although the last election we voted racist/no racist

[elephino]

I was talking to a friend's little girl, and she said she wanted to be
President some day.

Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked
her,

'If you were to be the President, what's the first thing you would do?'
She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.'

'Wow - what a worthy goal.' I told her, 'You don't have to wait until
you're President to do that.

You can come over to my house and mow the grass, pull weeds, and sweep my
yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store
where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use
toward food or a new house.'

She thought that over for a few seconds, 'cause she's only 6.

And while her Mom glared at me, the little girl looked me straight in the
eye and asked, 'Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work,
and you can just pay him the $50?'

And I said, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'

[RVAPump]

this. I might agree with higher taxes if they didnt waste money like crazy, like providing the poor with cellphones, more welfare for more kids, etc

Putting food stamp money on debit cards so that noone gets their feelings hurt...we make it fukking comfortable for people to be unproductive. People choosing not to work more than X number of hours because it would put them in a different income category and mess up their welfare benefits, etc.

[slalomx]

Democrats generally lookout for the poor and middle class. Republicans generally lookout for the rich and business owners. However, both lookout for their coporate lobbyists to such an extent that it is all meaningless.

[t3hlulzkiller]

Why do people vote republican? Aren't they looking out for the rich and big business? And if my calculations are correct, most of America isn't rich.

Maybe I was taught wrong, so aware me.

It really doesn't have to do with the rich. It has to do, atleast for me, with two things.

1) Darwinism - A person should have to work for their share of the crop. Socialism and Communism fail because they do not incentivize people to work hard. This is the problem with welfare right now. While there are people who actually legitimately need it - there are others who smoke cracks all day and essentially steal your tax dollars.

2) Smaller Government - We've already seen what a huge government is capable of. They now want to limit our internet freedom, they want to tax you extra for purchasing things with sugar in them, they can view your credit card purchases and location with absolutely no warrant. They are allowed to place tracking devices on your car in your driveway because it is not technically your home. Instead of the billions upon billions of dollars being spent on the people, much of it got spent SECRETLY on institutions not even in our country. Republicans, traditionally, give tax breaks to everyone. Democrats, traditionally, raise taxes or stop the tax breaks. I would rather pay less taxes that don't even go to my country anyway.

As it stands now, both parties, our entire government, and I would go as far as to say the entire global politico is so far corrupt and gone that I would not suggest any being better than the other. In the end, you're going to vote for whom you identify with the most. That's alright, its perfectly okay. Ours votes don't even count for anything anyway.

[P51]

because I do not want to really tax the rich as much as I want all the damn social programs to be shut down.

Medicare
Medicade
Social Security
Welfare

stop all of them, they are not working, do not just be like well we can fix them, we need to have them fail and start over, just like we should have done with the damn banks and auto makers. businesses should fail if they are ****ing up, and I think the same rule should apply to social programs.

Then don't just tax the rich more, tax everyone across the board more. This country pays less then others and no wonder we are ****ed.

I'm gonna LOL when you are 80 years old and dying because we don't have SS or Medicare.

Why the fuk would you want to get rid of SS or Medicare? If you are going to use that logic, "well you should have set aside a million dollars in your life time so you don't need SS", I'm gonna have to call you a moron. Considering most nursuing homes cost 5k+ a month and the good ones are 10k+, lets see how long your money lasts you.

[Trextacy]

I was talking to a friend's little girl, and she said she wanted to be
President some day.

Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked
her,

'If you were to be the President, what's the first thing you would do?'
She replied, 'I'd give food and houses to all the homeless people.'

'Wow - what a worthy goal.' I told her, 'You don't have to wait until
you're President to do that.

You can come over to my house and mow the grass, pull weeds, and sweep my
yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the grocery store
where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use
toward food or a new house.'

She thought that over for a few seconds, 'cause she's only 6.

And while her Mom glared at me, the little girl looked me straight in the
eye and asked, 'Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work,
and you can just pay him the $50?'

And I said, 'Welcome to the Republican Party.'

Of course a fellow NC brah knows what's up.

[Been2HellnBack]

It seems like the democrats in your country now just want more government oversight and a bigger more expensive government, seems like everyday theres another government agency being created wasting millions of your taxpayers money.....No wonder you guys are is such bad finanical trouble. I guess Obama forgets you have to pay back what you borrow.

Republicans are also a messed up choice for you guys because they protect the rich but the rich are who create the businesses and keep the economy going and creating jobs. I think with a Republican controlled House and a Democratic President it might bring something useful just like what happened with Bill Clinton when you guys actually had a surplus of money.

[P51]

SS is bankrupt fukktard...the baby boomers are about to start receiving benefits en mass and there aren't enough workers right now putting money into the system to fund those payouts, and why do you need the government to babysit your money to make sure you have some later in life? Why can't you be a responsible adult and plan ahead?

Are you really 24? Because for a 24 you seem to suck at reading, may I suggest some night classes at your local community college?

Bankrupt =/= doing away with

Bankrupt can be turned around with more taxes, doing away with means gone for good.

[gdrinkh2o]

Because I like to hunt with my guns, keep the money I work for, and in general not have to pay for other people who choose to be lazier and less productive than I am.

this....

I also figure im much closer to the upper 5% in wealth than the bottom 50%. I'll never see a dime from all the programs we have that people scam every day.

[TeeR4v_Gainer]

I'm gonna LOL when you are 80 years old and dying because we don't have SS or Medicare.

Why the fuk would you want to get rid of SS or Medicare? If you are going to use that logic, "well you should have set aside a million dollars in your life time so you don't need SS", I'm gonna have to call you a moron. Considering most nursuing homes cost 5k+ a month and the good ones are 10k+, lets see how long your money lasts you.

ss should be privatized. cant we be responsible enough to set aside money for that? what happened to people being able to take care of themselves? personal responsibility??

or have we effectively mashed the skulls of the majority of people to think that they need the gov't to do it for them?

[huckknows]

I'm gonna LOL when you are 80 years old and dying because we don't have SS or Medicare.

Why the fuk would you want to get rid of SS or Medicare? If you are going to use that logic, "well you should have set aside a million dollars in your life time so you don't need SS", I'm gonna have to call you a moron. Considering most nursuing homes cost 5k+ a month and the good ones are 10k+, lets see how long your money lasts you.

Go ahead and laugh all you want. The truth of the matter is we live longer. So we have to work longer. Everyone should be setting aside 25% of their income to save for retirement. Instead people don't and then retire and live longer then any other generation before with no savings and expect to get paid by everyone else. It is hurting the country.

PM me, and we can email back and forth and I will let you know exactly how I plan on being fine until 80 while still retiring before 60. It is called money management and not trying to live above your means, and the entire reason we are in a housing crisis is because people wanted the "american dream" big house, 3 cars, and they could not afford it, so they made bad decisions and hoped for the best.

[ToPHeR35]

Because people with common sense don't believe in America being a nanny state where people feel entitled to things instead of working for them...

[TeeR4v_Gainer]

It seems like the democrats in your country now just want more government oversight and a bigger more expensive government, seems like everyday theres another government agency being created wasting millions of your taxpayers money.....No wonder you guys are is such bad finanical trouble. I guess Obama forgets you have to pay back what you borrow.

Republicans are also a messed up choice for you guys because they protect the rich but the rich are who create the businesses and keep the economy going and creating jobs. I think with a Republican controlled House and a Democratic President it might bring something useful just like what happened with Bill Clinton when you guys actually had a surplus of money.

newt and the republican congress are to blame for the surplus. it had nothing to do with CLinton. He just signed the bill realizing that if he didn't he would be a one termer

[sportsfan7]

Because I like to hunt with my guns, keep the money I work for, and in general not have to pay for other people who choose to be lazier and less productive than I am.

Um, republicans are also for big government.. Did you not see what happened under Reagan and Bush? Even when they controlled the house, senate, and white house all at the same time, they didn't those social programs. They didn't end any of them actually. In fact, they didn't even reduce spending. They in fact increased spending. And, I believe, actually increased entitlement spending or at least social security spending.

[RVAPump]

Are you really 24? Because for a 24 you seem to suck at reading, may I suggest some night classes at your local community college?

Bankrupt =/= doing away with

Bankrupt can be turned around with more taxes, doing away with means gone for good.

lol higher taxes to bail out a program that's proven to be unsustainable? Strong logic is strong.

[P51]

Go ahead and laugh all you want. The truth of the matter is we live longer. So we have to work longer. Everyone should be setting aside 25% of their income to save for retirement. Instead people don't and then retire and live longer then any other generation before with no savings and expect to get paid by everyone else. It is hurting the country.

PM me, and we can email back and forth and I will let you know exactly how I plan on being fine until 80 while still retiring before 60. It is called money management and not trying to live above your means, and the entire reason we are in a housing crisis is because people wanted the "american dream" big house, 3 cars, and they could not afford it, so they made bad decisions and hoped for the best.

Thats all ****en fine and good the problem with your logic is this:

I have already paid into SS, I want my share back when I retire, therefore I'm not setting aside as much of my own money.

If you kill SS tomorrow, a lot of 60+ year olds are gonna be real pissed off they aren't getting the money they put into the damn system. You can't get rid of something that people were TOLD IS GONNA BE THERE 50 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY STARTED WORKING.

The only way your system would work is if SS was phased out over the next 50+ years, where current people entering the work force would understand that there wont be anything but your own money when you turn 65.

[P51]

lol higher taxes to bail out a program that's proven to be unsustainable? Strong logic is strong.

Did I say do that? What's your name, I'm gonna sign you up for those English classes myself, you appear to be a lost cause when it comes to reading comprehension.

I said that's the difference, I never said that what should be done.

[sportsfan7]

I'm gonna LOL when you are 80 years old and dying because we don't have SS or Medicare.

Why the fuk would you want to get rid of SS or Medicare? If you are going to use that logic, "well you should have set aside a million dollars in your life time so you don't need SS", I'm gonna have to call you a moron. Considering most nursuing homes cost 5k+ a month and the good ones are 10k+, lets see how long your money lasts you.

Um, SS won't be around when I'm that old - look at the funding charts lol.

I wouldn't be in that situation anyways, because I'm saving wealth on my own for retirement. No need to steal it from other people or have a some super overlord plan it out for me (and would do a worse job anyways).