Ok what do you prefer? i know free weights are better but don't you think that the lat pull down prevents cheating by locking you in? I prefer pull downs mainly because i don't have a weight belt to hang weights off and don't like putting a dumbell between my legs..
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Thread: Lat pull down vs Chin ups?
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12-08-2010, 06:34 AM #1
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12-08-2010, 06:40 AM #2
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12-08-2010, 06:46 AM #3
Another dumb thread. Why must people compare different exercises for purposes of superiority? They both are superb lat developers and should be used together for optimal gains. One keeps your body static while moving weight dynamically. The other moves your body dynamically while pulling from a fixed point. Seems similar but very different movements to the musculature and CNS.
Doing both is all win.
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12-08-2010, 06:54 AM #4
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12-08-2010, 07:42 AM #15
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Almost the same exercise, but not quite.
The lat pull down is superior, in that if you are unable to lift your bodyweight you can still do them and if you can easily do many reps with your bodyweight a lat pulldown will allow you to lift much more weight.
The pull-up is superior in that you can do them in many more places and recruits more stabalizing muscles.
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12-08-2010, 07:56 AM #16
Let's take a look at this on a line-by-line basis.
I prefer Chinups, weighted down to sometimes as heavy as 5-rep sets. But I wouldn't recommend that approach to everyone.
i know free weights are better
but don't you think that the lat pull down prevents cheating by locking you in?
I prefer pull downs mainly because i don't have a weight belt to hang weights off and don't like putting a dumbell between my legs..
How about trying each, by itself, for a couple of months? Log your results, and then compare which did the most to move you toward whatever your particular goal might be.No brain, no gain.
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12-08-2010, 07:58 AM #17
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12-08-2010, 08:22 AM #20
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12-08-2010, 08:24 AM #21
Narrow grip lat pulldown combined with wide grip pullups or vice versa. Weighted hammer grip pullups combined with behind the neck lat pulldowns. I switch things up weekly to stimulate back muscles with different pulling variations to keep workouts fresh and interesting.
I always do some type of lat pulldown variation with at least one pullup/chinup variation. If you're in good shape, this shouldn't be a problem in a single workout.
As medjen said, this is not rocket science, stop trying to over complicate a very simple concept.
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12-08-2010, 08:52 AM #22
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12-08-2010, 08:52 AM #23
I prefer the lat pulldowns because they are adjustable so I have the option to do lighter weight if I want to focus on getting a good stretch and a peak contraction, or experiment with wider grip or higher reps. The easy adjustment makes things like pyramids or drop sets more user friendly.
Also, it allows you to work your upper back more if you want to lean back. Posterior delts too. Since we're usually weaker that way, having the lighter weight options is good. The only problem is for a lot of machines the weight hits the top and that's no good =(
Counterpoints: you can add weight to your body when you do pull ups. Accessibility is not an analysis of the exercise's effects. Where is your proof that pull ups work more stabilizers than lat pulldowns? What is the rationale for this claim?
What 'bang' are you referring to? This is incredibly vague and avoids having to actually assert a point.
This is incorrect, not everyone can perform chins. Lat pulldowns are one approach to gain the strength to pull your bodyweight.
Lat pulldowns can be more difficult than a chin up. For example: if you feel pressure on the top of the thigh pad and you are not leaning back, you are probably pulling enough weight where you would otherwise leave your seat and go up to the bar instead of bringing it down to you. This is harder than doing a pull up.
You are asserting the motivations of others without justification. There are many reasons to prefer doing this over wanting ease or excuses.
Interesting idea: someone might get more muscular hypertrophy by pulling 1/2 or 3/4 of their weight on a lat pulldown for 4 sets of 20 than they would 4 sets of 1 with their bodyweight on a pull up.Last edited by Tyciol; 12-08-2010 at 08:59 AM.
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