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    If programs don't matter, why is it important to stick to one?

    Just be a sheiko guy till CMS and MSIC cycles become your biatches
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    Sheiko 30 Week 1 Day 1

    Paused Bench
    barx25
    135x5
    155x5
    185x2x4
    215x2x3
    245x5x3

    Front Squat
    barx10
    135x5
    185x3
    225x5x3

    Paused Bench
    155x5
    185x5
    215x4x5 <-skipped one set here. my shoulders were destroyed after the front squats

    Leg Press
    2 sets of 10 <-should have done more since this is the 2nd round squats according to sheiko but i was too hungry and tired.


    ****ing brutal day mainly because of the front squats. they just take everything out of me every single time but i guess that means they're good. i also skipped the core work.
    i tried back squatting with 135 for 5 and that still hurt my back. im going to the chiropractor tomorrow. i have to get back to back squatting asap before i forget how to back squat. my right rotator cuff was bothering me a lot today too. after this meet i believe im gonna lay off sheiko for a long while.
    all in all not a perfect day but at least i got 99% of my bench work in. as long as i get my bench work and deadlift work in im good.
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    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
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    Really impressive the progress you've made in such a short time man. Good work.
    thanks!



    just came home from the chiropractor. he touched me and i touched him and we had some fun.
    so i injured the joints between the ribs and the spine. theres some fancy name for the joints that i cant remember. my flexibility of those joints is restricted and thats one of the reasons why i injured them. there are some other reasons too but i just had no idea what he was saying. but he's dealt with a lot of sports injuries theres also this picture of some famous NHL player on his wall so i trust him. he did some ART and adjustments on me and right now my back feels kinda sore but i guess thats the purpose.

    what i have to do from now on according to him:
    no more foam rolling for the back
    no more contrast shower
    no more squatting of course
    as much icing as possible
    and no more deadlifting

    too bad i have 20 sets of deadlifts tomorrow and i will finish them. but i will try icing and take a break from foam rolling and contrast shower.
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    thanks!



    just came home from the chiropractor. he touched me and i touched him and we had some fun.
    so i injured the joints between the ribs and the spine. theres some fancy name for the joints that i cant remember. my flexibility of those joints is restricted and thats one of the reasons why i injured them. there are some other reasons too but i just had no idea what he was saying. but he's dealt with a lot of sports injuries theres also this picture of some famous NHL player on his wall so i trust him. he did some ART and adjustments on me and right now my back feels kinda sore but i guess thats the purpose.

    what i have to do from now on according to him:
    no more foam rolling for the back
    no more contrast shower
    no more squatting of course
    as much icing as possible
    and no more deadlifting

    too bad i have 20 sets of deadlifts tomorrow and i will finish them. but i will try icing and take a break from foam rolling and contrast shower.
    i lold at this so hard, lmfao. good lord martin, just dont hurt yourself...

    im also going for a 4 plate pull today, lol. best i pulled is 315x9, so today is judgement day
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    i lold at this so hard, lmfao. good lord martin, just dont hurt yourself...

    im also going for a 4 plate pull today, lol. best i pulled is 315x9, so today is judgement day
    im pretty sure you'll get it with ease. get some vids though i wanna fap
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    just came home from the chiropractor. he touched me and i touched him and we had some fun.
    so i injured the joints between the ribs and the spine. theres some fancy name for the joints that i cant remember. my flexibility of those joints is restricted and thats one of the reasons why i injured them. there are some other reasons too but i just had no idea what he was saying. but he's dealt with a lot of sports injuries theres also this picture of some famous NHL player on his wall so i trust him. he did some ART and adjustments on me and right now my back feels kinda sore but i guess thats the purpose.

    what i have to do from now on according to him:
    no more foam rolling for the back
    no more contrast shower
    no more squatting of course
    as much icing as possible
    and no more deadlifting

    too bad i have 20 sets of deadlifts tomorrow and i will finish them. but i will try icing and take a break from foam rolling and contrast shower.
    im not liking your chiropractor,so i may have to kill him.

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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    im pretty sure you'll get it with ease. get some vids though i wanna fap
    do u srs think so? i mean i have had a lot to eat today, and im eating more, but lettuce be real tea, i dont think 315x9 = 405...

    i guess we'll have to wait and see, and yeah im definitely getting videos.
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    Originally Posted by Foxr32 View Post
    im not liking your chiropractor,so i may have to kill him.

    oh ya and in for sheiko 30
    he touched my naked body.
    Originally Posted by iLiftNoodBrah View Post
    do u srs think so? i mean i have had a lot to eat today, and im eating more, but lettuce be real tea, i dont think 315x9 = 405...

    i guess we'll have to wait and see, and yeah im definitely getting videos.
    oh yea you'll get it without a doubt. when i first got 405 i couldnt even do 315 for 5. even though thats cause i never maxed out for reps. but 5RM, 6RM or whatever RM doesnt always translate to your 1RM
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    naked! did you tell him it was a core problem,not an anal one.
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    naked! did you tell him it was a core problem,not an anal one.
    i meant half-naked lol.


    late-night random thoughts:
    its summer and a lot of people that i know like "summer resolutions". and often times one of them is "working out". being the biggest and the strongest guy at my school (i go to a nerd school), a lot of my friends start texting me or messaging me on ******** asking me how to get big, even those "friends" that i havent talked to in probably 3 years. and their questions are always "give me your routine" or "how much protein powder do you take". i dont blame them for their ignorance because everyone has to start somewhere. so i take my time and explain to them how to properly work out and that they should be eating real food. then their first response is always "no i need protein powder". then they ask me where do i get my protein and ask for my routine once again. then i explain to them again the importance of eating real food and lifting properly.
    after 1 or 2 weeks some of them will tell me "oh theres no way im gonna be big i was born skinny" and they just sit at home and procrastinate. the problem is they dont have specific goals. getting big is not a goal. working out is not a goal. and they think lifting is easy. when they go the gym they just go through the motions. after 1 week they expect 20-inch arms and 8-pack abs. they dont understand that powerlifting/bodybuilding/weightlifting or any kind of lifting in general is a grind. it takes time. its the grind that builds character. you have to pay your dues.
    their lack of patience makes me think of my recent injury. on the day that i re-injured my back i expected it to heal the next day. and every day since then i expect my back to be 100% the next day. i went back and read my log and i found out i've only laid of heavy squatting for 12 days. and i still did some light squats in those 12 days. i forgot that powerlifting was a grind. you cant expect yourself to total 2000 raw tomorrow, and i cant expect my back to heal right now. i cant describe how terrible i felt when i first went back to the gym and found out i couldnt even squat the bar because of the immense pain in my back. i thought it was the end of the world. then what did i do? i squatted heavy the same week and ignored the pain. thats exactly what i had done the first time i injured my back a year ago.
    when something terrible happens to us, we tend to make decisions to remedy the situation immediately. and those decisions are often wrong. something i've learnt from all this bullcrap is that your situation may not be as terrible as you think it is. when something terrible happens, just calm down, do the right thing and be patient. give time time.



    cliffs:
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    - friends quit working out after a week
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    - grind builds character
    - patience is important
    - when you're injured, give it some time
    - im still gonna deadlift tomorrow
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    Sheiko 30 Week 1 Day 2

    Sumo Deadlifts
    135x2x5
    185x5
    225x4
    265x2x4
    305x2x3
    350x5x3
    decided to switch to sumo to save myself from back pain. it went very well i just think i was a little bit slow off the floor. after i work on that i'll be gold.

    Paused Bench
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    135x5
    155x5
    185x5
    215x2x4
    230x2x3
    245x2x2
    260x2x1
    245x1 <- was supposed to do 2 reps but i was really tired. i lowered my bench base max from 305 to 295 starting from here.
    235x2
    225x2x3
    205x4
    185x6
    165x8
    155x10
    135x12

    Sumo Block Pulls (mid-shin)
    265x5
    205x2x3
    350x3x3 <- ripped my left hand after the 2nd set. nothing too serious though.
    390x4x2 <- back pain started to arise but thats after 20+ sets. way better than conventional.

    Leg extensions
    50 reps

    Decline situps
    2 sets of 15


    a very very solid workout today. it took me exactly 4 hours to finish all the sets and i did not eat anything throughout the workout. thats an all-time PR right there. the sumo deadlifts were awesome for my back because i almost did not have to use my back at all. also, sumo block pulls are so much easier than conventional block pulls. i will stick to sumo deads for a while. i just have to improve the speed off the floor.
    my bench base max will float around 295-305 depending on how i feel throughout the workout. on easy days it will stay at 305. on bench marathon days i will lower it to 295 whenever i feel like i cant complete all the sets.
    going to the chiro tomorrow again. hopefully he wont find out what i did today.

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    i read that entire paragraph, and its so true, about everything. i even had a few friends asking me for advice believe it or not. all they focus on is eating protein, i dont think they understand the importance of calories in general. and they always think just because there eating a lot of protein they can just gain muscle and eat nothing else and lose fat. i also used to have back problems. i dont have them anymore (knock on wood) and i kept on rushing back to squatting and it totally tore me apart and i ended up taking like a month off squats, feels horrible. you still had an awesome workout today martin, and it sounds like your back is getting better, or your aggrevating it less, either way it seems to be making good progress. ever considered tkaing contrast showers? i heard there really good for back injuries, and getting rid of soreness. i like to take them after i lift because it just helps me cool down in general. very refreshing.
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    Sumo is usually slower off the floor but easier at lockout


    Nice philosophisizing brah, I read it all
    Originally Posted by iLiftNoodBrah View Post
    i read that entire paragraph, and its so true, about everything. i even had a few friends asking me for advice believe it or not. all they focus on is eating protein, i dont think they understand the importance of calories in general. and they always think just because there eating a lot of protein they can just gain muscle and eat nothing else and lose fat. i also used to have back problems. i dont have them anymore (knock on wood) and i kept on rushing back to squatting and it totally tore me apart and i ended up taking like a month off squats, feels horrible. you still had an awesome workout today martin, and it sounds like your back is getting better, or your aggrevating it less, either way it seems to be making good progress. ever considered tkaing contrast showers? i heard there really good for back injuries, and getting rid of soreness. i like to take them after i lift because it just helps me cool down in general. very refreshing.
    awww you guys read my bullcrap :')

    and yea jamie i actually foam roll and have contrast showers every day.
    i dont think im gonna do any type of squatting the coming week either. still sucks though i dont know when i can squat again.
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    i dont think im gonna do any type of squatting the coming week either. still sucks though i dont know when i can squat again.
    Don't be worried brah.
    From Feb 06 to Jul 07 I probably had only a month or two of squatting within (constant injuries)
    From Sept 08 to Oct 09 I didn't do a single squat (being retarded)

    And I've still made pretty good progress
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    Don't be worried brah.
    From Feb 06 to Jul 07 I probably had only a month or two of squatting within (constant injuries)
    From Sept 08 to Oct 09 I didn't do a single squat (being retarded)

    And I've still made pretty good progress
    WOAH, your from MD. what part you at?

    also, martin when i came back from my injury (about a month) i was actually a little stronger. i did split squats while holding DBs on the side without a problem, maybe u could try'em?
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    Don't be worried brah.
    From Feb 06 to Jul 07 I probably had only a month or two of squatting within (constant injuries)
    From Sept 08 to Oct 09 I didn't do a single squat (being retarded)

    And I've still made pretty good progress
    wow really? i dunno i think im a little bit paranoid about my squat going straight downhill. might sound ridiculous but its affecting my sleep. no sh!t.
    Originally Posted by iLiftNoodBrah View Post
    WOAH, your from MD. what part you at?

    also, martin when i came back from my injury (about a month) i was actually a little stronger. i did split squats while holding DBs on the side without a problem, maybe u could try'em?
    i actually did try them but its so hard to balance on 1 leg. for the coming few no-squatting weeks i'll just do bodybuilding type work for my legs. and update your friggin log bro did you get the 405 dead? i want vidzzz
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    Originally Posted by martin_mathers View Post
    wow really? i dunno i think im a little bit paranoid about my squat going straight downhill. might sound ridiculous but its affecting my sleep. no sh!t.

    i actually did try them but its so hard to balance on 1 leg. for the coming few no-squatting weeks i'll just do bodybuilding type work for my legs. and update your friggin log bro did you get the 405 dead? i want vidzzz
    i forgot to tell you. i ended up squatting 335x2 and benching 190x2. epic fukking fail much? lol yes, horrible workout, not even gonna update as lame as it sounds, didnt go for the 4 plate pull either. i had enough fails for the night. im gonna re do this week of madcows. i honestly think it had to do with my legs and shoulders being really sore from GPP.
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    hope everything gets sorted out with the back martin

    nice sumos
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    hope everything gets sorted out with the back martin

    nice sumos
    thanks!
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    4 hours? Que?

    I don't know anything at all about Shieko. Is that normal?
    normally one workout takes 2.5 hours for me. yesterday i took so much longer because im running a cycle with the highest volume of all rated cycles. and i was taking sometime to figure out the sumos because it was my first time doing them. but some people do split up one workout into two sessions within a day because they're so long.


    just went to the chiro again and my back is feeling awesome. he gave me some weird massages and hooked my back to a machine. now im all loosened up.
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    WOAH, your from MD. what part you at?
    Born and raised in Frederick county, have been living in northern Prince George's the past 2 years. In August I will move back to Frederick. You?
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    Born and raised in Frederick county, have been living in northern Prince George's the past 2 years. In August I will move back to Frederick. You?
    what high schooll did u go to? i go to broadneck, and i live in arnold, near cape.
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    glad to see that the backs feeling better/loosened up. so its safe to say the chiros paying off?

    hope it continues to stay that way
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    glad to see that the backs feeling better/loosened up. so its safe to say the chiros paying off?

    hope it continues to stay that way
    well if i didnt have insurance cover i definitely wouldnt have gone to the chiro...i would have just rested and let it heal itself. but going to the chiro really helped speed up the recovery which is exactly what i needed. hopefully i can squat next week!!
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    Sheiko 30 Week 1 Day 3

    Paused Bench
    barx20
    135x8
    155x5
    185x2x4
    215x2x3
    245x6x2

    Squat (very stupid idea)
    barx10
    135x2x5
    185x5
    235x3 <-my back still hurt. i didn't plan to squat at all because i knew if i found out it still hurt it would **** me up mentally. and it did.

    Dips
    2 sets of 20

    Pushdowns
    4 sets of 12

    Leg Press
    3 sets of 10

    Leg Curl
    4 sets of 10

    Decline Situps with 25-pound plate
    3 sets of 10


    Done. i had more assistance stuff to work on but i was feeling very demotivated so i went home. having said that compared to last week my back pain is definitely improving. the pain wasn't that bad today actually. going to the chiro again tomorrow and hopefully i can squat without pain next week.
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