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    Paleolithic TKD

    Hey all,

    I've been doing the Anabolic Diet/ CKD for approx. last 2.5 years and I am around 10% BF now (from over 30%) at 170 lbs and also planning to compete soon.
    I want to make a mini cut using TKD (100 gr of carbs on workout days) and would like to use the paleolithic principles. What would be the best post workout carbs ? Currently I am consuming grapefruits.

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    Potatoes! I know, potatoes are technically not Paleo, but people are starting to make em fit in Paleo diets ... sweet potatoes & yams even more so. Excellent carb-up food.
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    How about some grains?





    Sorry, couldn't resist. :P
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    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    How about some grains?





    Sorry, couldn't resist. :P
    As far as I know, they are excluded from the paleo diets since we've been farming only for the last 10-15k years
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    Literally any fruit
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    as far as i know, fructose is not too desirable on TKD though I know that some fruits have very high glucose/fructose ratios but still not high enough (always <1) as post workout carbs.
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    Originally Posted by Goody_Shop View Post
    as far as i know, fructose is not too desirable on TKD though I know that some fruits have very high glucose/fructose ratios but still not high enough (always <1) as post workout carbs.
    such as?
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    Originally Posted by Goody_Shop View Post
    Hey all,

    I've been doing the Anabolic Diet/ CKD for approx. last 2.5 years and I am around 10% BF now (from over 30%) at 170 lbs and also planning to compete soon.
    I want to make a mini cut using TKD (100 gr of carbs on workout days) and would like to use the paleolithic principles. What would be the best post workout carbs ? Currently I am consuming grapefruits.

    Cheers
    I suggest you sell your car & start bathing in rivers so you can be consistent in your regressive efforts.
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    Originally Posted by alan aragon View Post
    I suggest you sell your car & start bathing in rivers so you can be consistent in your regressive efforts.
    Alan could you please link me to the research that shows that a Paleo diet is no better for your health than a regular diet? I see you **** all over the diet all the time and I figure you of all people must have some supporting evidence to shut the traps of all the Paleotards
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    Originally Posted by TBU720 View Post
    Alan could you please link me to the research that shows that a Paleo diet is no better for your health than a regular diet? I see you **** all over the diet all the time and I figure you of all people must have some supporting evidence to shut the traps of all the Paleotards
    The burden of proof is not on me (or you). It's on the paleonuts to demonstate that the paleo diet has superior health benefits compared to an macronutrient-matched diet containing foods that are not all 'paleo-approved'. This is their goofy-assed claim, so the burden of proof is on them to back it up.
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    It would be ridiculously difficult and annoying to attempt to do the Keto diet without dairy. A world without cheese is a world I don't want to live in.
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    Originally Posted by alan aragon View Post
    The burden of proof is not on me (or you). It's on the paleonuts to demonstate that the paleo diet has superior health benefits compared to an macronutrient-matched diet containing foods that are not all 'paleo-approved'. This is their goofy-assed claim, so the burden of proof is on them to back it up.
    Maybe they are just so scared that they'll break a bone if they fall off the bandwagon.
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    Originally Posted by TBU720 View Post
    Maybe they are just so scared that they'll break a bone if they fall off the bandwagon.
    LOL @ the paleos. They're so desperate for the magic bullet, that they've resorted to pre-historic speculation.
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    Originally Posted by alan aragon View Post
    LOL @ the paleos. They're so desperate for the magic bullet, that they've resorted to pre-historic speculation.
    Hey, I'm a Jurassic-follower.
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    Originally Posted by Suffering View Post
    Hey, I'm a Jurassic-follower.
    Oh, no he didn't...
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    Originally Posted by alan aragon View Post
    Conifers from the Jurassic-period taste soo good. And they make me go zero carb and melt off the fat! Currently doing a book project with Lyle McDonald. He is acting a little bit weird about the whole thing, though. Don't know why..

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    Actually in terms of the protein sources, I am not too concerned but as a scientist (nano-science), I believe that high energy grains may not be the way to go since they have very high glycemic loads even when eaten in small quantities.

    And as another example; you can look at the grain fed live stock. They are not nearly as healthy as the grass fed ones (e.g. e-coli problem). I guess in humans the effects of grains are not as severe but I believe that the lenghtened presence of somewhat high levels of insulin is just not a good thing (Diabetes mellitus type 2 ).

    Either way, you can eat whatever you want at the end as long as you feel good but I would like to experiment with new things every now and then to see if I feel even better.


    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post
    such as?
    and the fruits with glucose/fructose ratio --- see below (taken from wikipedia)

    Food↓ Fructose (grams / 100 grams) Glucose (grams / 100 grams)↓

    Apples 5.9 2.4
    Pears 6.2 2.8
    Fruit juice
    e.g. Apples,
    Pears 5 to 7 2 to 3
    Watermelon 3.4 1.6
    Raisins 29.8 27.8
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    Originally Posted by Goody_Shop View Post
    I believe that high energy grains may not be the way to go since they have very high glycemic loads
    Glycemic loads!!!
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    Originally Posted by Goody_Shop View Post
    Actually in terms of the protein sources, I am not too concerned but as a scientist (nano-science), I believe that high energy grains may not be the way to go since they have very high glycemic loads even when eaten in small quantities.

    And as another example; you can look at the grain fed live stock. They are not nearly as healthy as the grass fed ones (e.g. e-coli problem). I guess in humans the effects of grains are not as severe but I believe that the lenghtened presence of somewhat high levels of insulin is just not a good thing (Diabetes mellitus type 2 ).

    Either way, you can eat whatever you want at the end as long as you feel good but I would like to experiment with new things every now and then to see if I feel even better.




    and the fruits with glucose/fructose ratio --- see below (taken from wikipedia)

    Food↓ Fructose (grams / 100 grams) Glucose (grams / 100 grams)↓

    Apples 5.9 2.4
    Pears 6.2 2.8
    Fruit juice
    e.g. Apples,
    Pears 5 to 7 2 to 3
    Watermelon 3.4 1.6
    Raisins 29.8 27.8
    Unless you plan on megadosing fructose & grains you have jack-crapola to worry about. You are needlessly micromanaging your inake.
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    Glycemic loads!!!
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