Lesnar vs Velasquez, Who you got?

[Dragger]

LOL at all the negs I received.

Like someone before me said, it's hard to knock someone out when they are in the fetal position. The fight should have been stopped, because Lesnar was NOT fighting back and just laid there for over a minute; had it been any other fighter, the fight would have been most definitely stopped.

U guys mad your superstar MMA fighter was running away after he got punched in the face?

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[Reps n Sets]

Brock got that Mayweather defense. Look at those bob and weaves... incredible.

[Gizzyhardcore]

LOL at all the negs I received.

Like someone before me said, it's hard to knock someone out when they are in the fetal position. The fight should have been stopped, because Lesnar was NOT fighting back and just laid there for over a minute; had it been any other fighter, the fight would have been most definitely stopped.

U guys mad your superstar MMA fighter was running away after he got punched in the face?

you got negs cause ur a ******* with carwins load in your eye so you can't see what really happened lol

Not fighting back? watch the fight again *******..

see Carin nuthuggers only see what they want to, Me on the other hand saw Lesnars terrible standup, saw him get owned, but keep active and survive it and then come back to win

[paranoidxe]

im sooo tired of everyone bringing up the carwin fight,
the dude caught him with some lucky punches early, couldnt finish, gassed, and got pounded out.
cain>carwin(which will make for a better fight) but brock still handles it

Landing 50+ punches is not lucky, its skill.

Brock will take this one, I actually want him to win this time. I want to see a Carwin vs Lesnar again.

[paranoidxe]

you got negs cause ur a ******* with carwins load in your eye so you can't see what really happened lol

Not fighting back? watch the fight again *******..

see Carin nuthuggers only see what they want to, Me on the other hand saw Lesnars terrible standup, saw him get owned, but keep active and survive it and then come back to win

That's cute. Neg someone for not having the same opinion as yours.

[Strategery]

I'll be pulling for Brock but it won't surprise me if Cain beats him.

Cain is a pretty well-rounded fighter who is growing and getting better and whose best days are still ahead of him. I can see him winning in more ways than Brock can. I also think that his ko power is still an unknown.

Brock's got a nice size, strength, and reach advantage, but his stand up is still TERRIBLE and I'm not convinced that he knows how to USE his advantages. That leaves him with just his wrestling. If Brock doesn't score the takedown 100% of the time, I'm afraid that Cain will clip him and it could end quickly or it could hurt Brock just enough to obviate his size strength and wrestling giving Cain the upper hand for the rest of the fight.

[John_Connor]

Lesnar easily.

[WowWeakForum]

trust me, i'm not your 'son', junior.

i dont make predictions anymore, dumbass. the thread was who you are rooting for. SOMEHOW got that mixed up with the word 'PREDICTION', but confusion on your part is expected, seeing your trolling nature, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

but its interesting you say that, since i get most of them right. methinks you're just a lonely 'ol troll that has nothing better to do with his life. it would be better if you 'love' to find your way out the door.


*yawns*

no son, this is about who you think is going to win...the poll said nothing about who you're rooting for...and your predictions are always wrong, son...that's why you said lesnar wouldn't go anywhere in mma...this is why you predicted mir would beat him the second time, and why couture would beat him, and...<sigh>...you've been wrong so many times i tire of typing, son

Oh, and if you're truly planning on discontinuing your asinine predictions, please don't...keep them coming, you're a great tool for me to use...thanks baby...love ya ~!

[Amoral]

no son, this is about who you think is going to win...the poll said nothing about who you're rooting for...and your predictions are always wrong, son...that's why you said lesnar wouldn't go anywhere in mma...this is why you predicted mir would beat him the second time, and why couture would beat him, and...<sigh>...you've been wrong so many times i tire of typing, son

Oh, and if you're truly planning on discontinuing your asinine predictions, please don't...keep them coming, you're a great tool for me to use...thanks baby...love ya ~!

Ive been thinking this the entire time, ive always thought gomi was a little off

[silviodante]

I think Cain will take it. probably 3/4/5 round TKO

[superstarmc]

Lesnar easily.

Spending 10 weeks and 100k on a single training camp he better win. They should make Pat Barry a permanent member also.

[my_name_is_bob]

Chestner will win with relative ease and if there is a Carwin rematch........Lesner will win yet again, but this time in convincing fashion. Sad but true.

[Deathstroke]

This thread has me ready to see Brock crush Cain!!!!! Can't wait.

[battousai216]

i always get confused when people put cains cardio over brocks significantly..

brock is a machine and can go the distance im sure. for his size, he is probably the most conditioned athlete there is.

because we have seen brock get tired, and we've seen cain put out a pace no other heavyweight ever has. whats confusing is why you would ever think hes the most conditioned athlete there is...

[BORN2LOSE]

I don't think Brock will stand with Cain for very long. His success in this fight depends on whether or not he can take Cain down. I personally don't think he'll have a problem getting Cain to the floor. With that said, I hope Cain knocks him out before Brock dives for his legs. Should be a good fight though.

[MiKey4]

Wow. It has to be Cain.


Lesnar hasn't looked convincing once yet. His main attack against Carwin was a barrage of headbutts to the fist, which tired Carwin out. Cain's standup looks awesome, better than anyone that Lesnar's faced before (Carwin has KO power but not Cain's technique). I can't see Lesnar pulling another win out of this, for me this is 75% Cain's fight.

[97srad750]

because we have seen brock get tired, and we've seen cain put out a pace no other heavyweight ever has. whats confusing is why you would ever think hes the most conditioned athlete there is...

We've never seen him tired. That's a myth that started from irrational nitpickers

Both guys usually have had the benefit of pushing the pace, what happens to each's cardio when they aren't pushing the pace. How is Cain's cardio if he's supporting a guy that'll outweigh him by 30 lbs?

[97srad750]

Wow. It has to be Cain.


Lesnar hasn't looked convincing once yet. His main attack against Carwin was a barrage of headbutts to the fist, which tired Carwin out. Cain's standup looks awesome, better than anyone that Lesnar's faced before (Carwin has KO power but not Cain's technique). I can't see Lesnar pulling another win out of this, for me this is 75% Cain's fight.

Mir II wasn't a convincing win
Couture wasn't a convincing win
Herring wasn't a convincing win

[Fail_Username]

Mir II wasn't a convincing win
Couture wasn't a convincing win
Herring wasn't a convincing win

Cain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mir, Couture and Herring

This is going to be great when Cain finished the Brock worship once and for all.

[97srad750]

Cain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mir, Couture and Herring

This is going to be great when Cain finished the Brock worship once and for all.

Has nothing to do with the questions asked

[Scumdog]

Cain is better than Brock in all aspects of MMA..

The only thing Brock has is SIZE.

Anyone that thinks differently doesn't know much about MMA.
or hasn't seen 220 pound Couture and a fresh Shane Carwin stuff Lesnar's overrated takedowns.

[Big Slim DaDDy]

We've never seen him tired. That's a myth that started from irrational nitpickers

Hug his nuts harder. Give em a good squeeze.

[Gomi]

no son, this is about who you think is going to win...the poll said nothing about who you're rooting for...and your predictions are always wrong, son...that's why you said lesnar wouldn't go anywhere in mma...this is why you predicted mir would beat him the second time, and why couture would beat him, and...<sigh>...you've been wrong so many times i tire of typing, son

Oh, and if you're truly planning on discontinuing your asinine predictions, please don't...keep them coming, you're a great tool for me to use...thanks baby...love ya ~!

*yawns*

i think you're getting confused which tools of mine you use most......i left you a 10, it would have been a 20 if you would have took it on the face like last time.... i know you're a busy guy, but a sore jaw shouldnt be an excuse for a poor performance...

now STFU and save your breath, use those GREAT skills to blow up your girlfriend

[Gomi]

Ive been thinking this the entire time, ive always thought gomi was a little off

yeah i bet you have

and you seriously have no ****ing idea......

[battousai216]

We've never seen him tired. That's a myth that started from irrational nitpickers

Both guys usually have had the benefit of pushing the pace, what happens to each's cardio when they aren't pushing the pace. How is Cain's cardio if he's supporting a guy that'll outweigh him by 30 lbs?

its not a myth at all we've seen it, deal with it.

When has brock ever set a pac like we've seen cain set? the first 60 seconds of his ufc carreer is the only time.

And another interesting fact is that brock may not be cutting weight and will have a 25 pound weight advantage as opposed to the 40 pound we all expected. 20 pounds is significant but if couture could negate 60 pounds cain might be able to negate 25.

[atrent]

because we have seen brock get tired, and we've seen cain put out a pace no other heavyweight ever has. whats confusing is why you would ever think hes the most conditioned athlete there is...

im not doubting cains cardio just because i think lesnar has some good cardio himself.


oh, and couture couldnt negate 60 pounds. he got tko'd bro.

[97srad750]

Hug his nuts harder. Give em a good squeeze.

When was he tired? It wasn't the Couture fight people reference. If he was tired, so was Couture. Winded and gassed aren't the same. If he was tired, he wouldn't have had the energy to pounce and close the show when he did.

Maybe one day you'll be able to hold a conversation without mentioning nuts.

[WorldDomnit]

Lesnar will hold that belt for a while longer

[97srad750]

its not a myth at all we've seen it, deal with it.

When has brock ever set a pac like we've seen cain set? the first 60 seconds of his ufc carreer is the only time.

And another interesting fact is that brock may not be cutting weight and will have a 25 pound weight advantage as opposed to the 40 pound we all expected. 20 pounds is significant but if couture could negate 60 pounds cain might be able to negate 25.

I didn't say Brock set a pace like Cain. I said they BOTH have had the advantage of defining the paces of their fight. I don't know how either will react when they aren't dictating the pace.

Couture lost round 1, lost the striking in the fight, lost the wrestling in the fight, and everything he did was almost immediately one upped by Lesnar. He didn't negate anything. He held his own, but didn't negate anything.

[97srad750]

Cain is better than Brock in all aspects of MMA..

The only thing Brock has is SIZE.

Anyone that thinks differently doesn't know much about MMA.
or hasn't seen 220 pound Couture and a fresh Shane Carwin stuff Lesnar's overrated takedowns.

Who has better top control? Have you seen anything from Cain to suggest he's a better grappler? How about a better wrestler?

And what makes his takedowns overrated? That they didn't come automatic against a high level wrestler? If that's your argument, I suggest you take some time to watch wrestling. Takedowns usually aren't automatic when two high level wrestler go at it. The two fights you referenced he won based on his wrestling, and had more takedowns then both Carwin and Couture. And from reading your post I can't say you aren't in a position to say anyone that doesn't agree with your position doesn't know much about MMA. The fact of the matter is we know little of both guys, certainly not enough to talk absolutes.