better to do German Volume Training on PH cycle or not on one?
I have decided to start this in a few weeks and it was recomended to me that you shopuld do this on a ph cycle, but i am not sure to do it with one or not or even over a mix of the two. The method should put a variety into my training, If i was to do the PH method i would normally follow a cycle of Super One+ for four weeks and the GVT lasts 9 weeks, therefor there is a problem here.
ANy suggestions
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05-20-2003, 05:56 AM #1Sleepy moderator
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better to do German Volume Training on PH cycle or not on one?
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05-20-2003, 06:14 AM #2
GVT and 1-test or PH = Good Stuff. LOL
For many people GVT is overtraining. But when coupled with a good androgen such as 1-test or 4ad among others.....GVT can be quite effective. The decreased recovery time helped along by the PH is what can make GVT livable and not be overtraining.
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05-20-2003, 07:56 AM #3SOLDIER FOR CHRIST!!!
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i think its worth trying just make sure you get plenty of rest and plenty of food
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05-20-2003, 09:07 AM #4Registered User
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You neednt run GVT for 9weeks; 4-6 is sufficient. Still, this is an excellent "size program" given its emphasis on sarcoplasmic hypertrophy...just be careful to keep caloric intake high post-cycle to avoid excessive muscle wasting
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05-20-2003, 03:33 PM #5
whether you are on or off androgens i think there are far better programs out there than gvt
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05-20-2003, 04:21 PM #6Sleepy moderator
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like what
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05-21-2003, 05:54 AM #7No one program is good for too long.......Originally posted by bigD
whether you are on or off androgens i think there are far better programs out there than gvt
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05-21-2003, 06:09 PM #8true, and I personaly dont like the progression scheme in GVT or the fact that you start at using 60% of your 1 RM, and many people will never get out of that pitiful level.Originally posted by Chi_town
No one program is good for too long.......
I would offer instead to do some kind of WSB scheme + biceps, a modified 5x5 type program with a bit of higher rep work, a 20 rep squat routine, DC training, or HST.
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05-21-2003, 09:52 PM #9Registered User
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Right, use GVT while 'on' phs 4-6 wks.......when 'off' go to lower volume training.....I like HST, look it up.....I find it good while 'off'. keep cals high and always have post cycle meds on hand. Good luck.
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05-22-2003, 11:02 AM #10Registered User
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did a cycle of ONE+ back in August...4-weeker...german volume training worked best for me but i altered it a bit to my desire...when i came off, i started Max-OT program and kept most of my gains (bout 10 lbs)...but be careful: on cycle strength goes up, but when coming off, many times strength comes down somewhat and trying to push the same weight you did while on cycle can result in an injury happening...good luck with cycle
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