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    agreed on all points, unless the scoring is 20 yards/point, in which case I think you gotta grab a QB at that 2/3 turn. The dropoff from a guy like romo or Schaub to Eli is too drastic in a 20/6 league
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    Originally Posted by Jayo7k View Post
    I would trade to pick 2 because you can't go wrong with apete or chris johnson. if you did end up trading to 3, take mjd instead of rice. If you stay at pick 1 i'd take apete, i just feel hes a safer pick.

    on the way back (24 and 25) you absolutely must choose 2 wrs at this point. there are going to be rbs available later on but these are the rounds where wrs are getting scooped up very fast.

    so its RB WR WR

    if you take a QB your going to have 2 very mediocre wrs. The difference between Roddy White and Mike Wallace is a lot different then Tony Romo and Eli Manning....
    Thanks for the tips, wouldnt have prob done this otherwise.

    How about drafting rb/wr/ top te? or should i stick w/ the wr wr. How about if someone like turner/ryan mathews, etc is available. do they not hold higher value than a good wr? fwiw its qb rb rb wr wr te flex one def and one def player...
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    no.

    top TEs aren't worth it. Turner won't be available past the 1st round, Matthews probably won't make it back to you.
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    How's my team look? 10 team standard yahoo league. I think I made out decent (5th pick)

    QB: E. Manning, V. Young
    RB: C. Benson, J. Charles, A. Bradshaw, R. Brown, C. Williams
    WR: A. Johnson, R. White, S. Rice, T. Housh, K. Britt
    TE: J. Witten
    K: R. Longwell
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    Originally Posted by fergman311 View Post
    How's my team look? 10 team standard yahoo league. I think I made out decent (5th pick)

    QB: E. Manning, V. Young
    RB: C. Benson, J. Charles, A. Bradshaw, R. Brown, C. Williams
    WR: A. Johnson, R. White, S. Rice, T. Housh, K. Britt
    TE: J. Witten
    K: R. Longwell
    DEF: Baltimore
    Im assuming you went A. Johnson, C. Benson, J. Charles, R. White, S. Rice, T. Housh, E. Manning, J. Whitten .. or something similar mixing up those last 3 picks?

    You're team would be a strong 12 team league team but still an above average 10 team league team.
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    Originally Posted by wynngrip View Post
    Thanks for the tips, wouldnt have prob done this otherwise.

    How about drafting rb/wr/ top te? or should i stick w/ the wr wr. How about if someone like turner/ryan mathews, etc is available. do they not hold higher value than a good wr? fwiw its qb rb rb wr wr te flex one def and one def player...
    Yeah i'd def stick with WR / WR. Turner won't (shouldn't) fall that far and even if he does ur best bet is to go WR WR. There are a lot of good rbs this year and your already going to have one of the best
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    Originally Posted by fergman311 View Post
    How's my team look? 10 team standard yahoo league. I think I made out decent (5th pick)

    QB: E. Manning, V. Young
    RB: C. Benson, J. Charles, A. Bradshaw, R. Brown, C. Williams
    WR: A. Johnson, R. White, S. Rice, T. Housh, K. Britt
    TE: J. Witten
    K: R. Longwell
    DEF: Baltimore
    I like andre and roddy but other then that i'm not a huge fan of the team. rice is a risk and might not be playing week 1. charles is better in ppr. good luck though
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    Originally Posted by Jayo7k View Post
    I like andre and roddy but other then that i'm not a huge fan of the team. rice is a risk and might not be playing week 1. charles is better in ppr. good luck though
    In a 10 team standard league like that what are you thoughts on RBs besides the obvious top 5
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    Please rate my starters, i took some chances with fitz n harvin but did my best with a bad pick in a 10 man league

    brett favre
    mike turner
    jamaal charles
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    All good points Jay, thanks for taking the time to do this
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    how do you figure berrian to do this year, with him about to receive more play time with sidney rice out the first 8+ games? is he a good WR3? would you rather take berrian or meachem with one WR slot open?
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    Originally Posted by Jayo7k View Post
    I like andre and roddy but other then that i'm not a huge fan of the team. rice is a risk and might not be playing week 1. charles is better in ppr. good luck though

    this is why i dont like to draft until after the preseason:

    http://views.washingtonpost.com/thel...p-surgery.html

    Sidney Rice undergoes hip surgery
    The Minnesota Vikings' hopes for a Super Bowl season have been damaged. Pro Bowl wide receiver Sidney Rice underwent hip surgery Monday and is expected to be sidelined for at least half the season, according to reports.

    Rice confirmed to the Minneapolis Star Tribune that he underwent the procedure Monday in Colorado. Rice told the newspaper in a text message that the surgery went well.

    Rice reportedly suffered the injury in the Vikings' overtime loss in New Orleans in last season's NFC title game.

    He had 83 catches for 1,312 yards and eight touchdowns last season.

    The Vikings have Brett Favre back at quarterback but have problems at receiver. Percy Harvin, the NFL's offensive rookie of the year last season, continues to be plagued by migraine headaches.

    The team reportedly plans to sign free agent wide receiver Javon Walker, formerly Favre's teammate with the Green Bay Packers.
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    Here's a mock i just did while im at work ... where do you think i made mistakes Jayo?

    Picks in Order
    3rd overall

    MJD
    Rashard Mendenhall
    Jamaal Charles
    Steve Smith (NYG)
    Jeremy Maclin
    Santana Moss
    Matt Ryan
    Derrick Mason
    Jerome Harrison
    Zach Miller
    Vincent Jackson
    Ladanian Tomlinson
    Nate Washington
    Oakland Def
    Sebastian Janikowski

    Overall Team
    QB: Matt Ryan
    RB: MJD, Rashard Mendenhall, Jamaal Charles, Jerome Harrison, Ladainian Tomlinson
    WR: Steve Smith, Jeremy Maclin, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Nate Washington
    TE: Zach Miller
    K: Sebastian Janikowski
    Def: Oakland

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    Originally Posted by suprattalljdm View Post
    Here's a mock i just did while im at work ... where do you think i made mistakes Jayo?

    Picks in Order
    3rd overall

    MJD
    Rashard Mendenhall
    Jamaal Charles
    Steve Smith (NYG)
    Jeremy Maclin
    Santana Moss
    Matt Ryan
    Derrick Mason
    Jerome Harrison
    Zach Miller
    Vincent Jackson
    Ladanian Tomlinson
    Nate Washington
    Oakland Def
    Sebastian Janikowski

    Overall Team
    QB: Matt Ryan
    RB: MJD, Rashard Mendenhall, Jamaal Charles, Jerome Harrison, Ladainian Tomlinson
    WR: Steve Smith, Jeremy Maclin, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Nate Washington
    TE: Zach Miller
    K: Sebastian Janikowski
    Def: Oakland

    Ya, I'm a Raiders fan lol
    elite WR's are in demand this year, so I dont think going rb-rb-rb is a good strategy and left you with a very weak WR corps.
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    Originally Posted by frankky4fingers View Post
    elite WR's are in demand this year, so I dont think going rb-rb-rb is a good strategy and left you with a very weak WR corps.
    i think i agree with you my good sir
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    Originally Posted by fergman311 View Post
    In a 10 team standard league like that what are you thoughts on RBs besides the obvious top 5
    standard

    1. Apete
    2. Chris Johnson
    3. MJD
    4. Michael Turner
    5. Ray Rice
    6. Frank Gore
    7. Mendenhall
    8. Pierre Thomas
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    Originally Posted by Drips617 View Post
    how do you figure berrian to do this year, with him about to receive more play time with sidney rice out the first 8+ games? is he a good WR3? would you rather take berrian or meachem with one WR slot open?
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    Originally Posted by CM1221 View Post
    Please rate my starters, i took some chances with fitz n harvin but did my best with a bad pick in a 10 man league
    brett favre-I just don't see him making it through the season with that ankle but the odds are in your favor as he never misses games.

    mike turner-standard league he'll be great. ppr league i'm not a fan

    jamaal charles-just the opposite of mike turner, standard = okay ppr = great

    larry fitz- i'm avoiding this guy like the plague this season.

    sidney rice-well, we all know hes out at least half the season. i wouldn't expect him to explode right when he gets back but he should be back to form come time for fantasy playoffs which is a plus

    percy harvin-he may benefit from sidneys absence but he could also be shaded in coverage with the absence. apete will need to run with authority to get the defense keying on the running game. i think shiancoe will see the most production increase from rices absence

    tony gonzalez-he'll be solid, not as good as last year. i don't like that he announced his plans to retire after this season. once that mindset is there it can affect performance

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    Originally Posted by Drips617 View Post
    how do you figure berrian to do this year, with him about to receive more play time with sidney rice out the first 8+ games? is he a good WR3? would you rather take berrian or meachem with one WR slot open?
    No. Thats why i like to have 3 wrs after the first 3 rounds. You need a guy like dwayne bowe as your 3rd wr. The guys like mike wallace or jeremy maclin that could be good need to be 4th WRs. Meachem over berrian
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    do you think i should trade for a better rb?

    what would you rate my team currently /10? and why?

    any feedback?
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    Originally Posted by suprattalljdm View Post
    Here's a mock i just did while im at work ... where do you think i made mistakes Jayo?

    Picks in Order
    3rd overall

    MJD
    Rashard Mendenhall
    Jamaal Charles
    Steve Smith (NYG)
    Jeremy Maclin
    Santana Moss
    Matt Ryan
    Derrick Mason
    Jerome Harrison
    Zach Miller
    Vincent Jackson
    Ladanian Tomlinson
    Nate Washington
    Oakland Def
    Sebastian Janikowski

    Overall Team
    QB: Matt Ryan
    RB: MJD, Rashard Mendenhall, Jamaal Charles, Jerome Harrison, Ladainian Tomlinson
    WR: Steve Smith, Jeremy Maclin, Santana Moss, Derrick Mason, Nate Washington
    TE: Zach Miller
    K: Sebastian Janikowski
    Def: Oakland

    Ya, I'm a Raiders fan lol
    I'm going to assume this is a ppr league and that you start 1 qb 2 rb 3 wr 1 te 1k 1def. I love MJD at pick 3. The biggest mistake I see is on your way back with mendenhall. If you take a RB round 1 you must take 2 WRs the next 2 rounds. You have Jamaal Charles on the bench which is a big waste because your WRs are awful. Now lets say u went MJD and then grabbed a guy like Greg Jennings/Brandon Marshall on the way back in the 2nd. Even though I said go RB WR WR we'll assume u took Charles in the 3rd and the rest of the draft panned out the same.

    QB Matt Ryan
    RB MJD JCharles
    WR Jennings/Marshall, Steve Smith (nyg), Jeremy Maclin
    TE Zach Miller
    K Sebastian
    Def Raiders

    now thats a solid team. WRs are key this year. Theres a lot of good rb talent in the 3rd and 4th round, sometimes even 5th.
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    do you think i should trade for a better rb?

    what would you rate my team currently /10? and why?

    any feedback?
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    1. (9) Randy Moss WR
    2. (12) Tom Brady QB
    3. (29) Cedric Benson RB
    4. (32) Marques Colston WR
    5. (49) Ronnie Brown RB
    6. (52) Vernon Davis TE
    7. (69) Percy Harvin WR
    8. (72) Pierre Garcon WR
    9. (89) Donald Driver WR
    10. (92) Steve Slaton RB
    11. (109) Brandon Jacobs RB
    12. (112) Nate Kaeding K
    13. (129) Baltimore DEF
    14. (132) Matt Cassel QB
    15. (149) Greg Olsen TE

    Ouch, I'm so opposed to drafting a QB early. Why Moss at 9 over a guy like Miles Austin? You know both are going to post big numbers but Austins upside is so much higher then Moss. He's younger/less of an injury risk. This team does look pretty good but thats because its a 10 team league. I would trade Brady and Moss. I'd try to get Miles Austin and Eli Manning on my team if i was you (not for brady and moss but just work out a trade for them). Your WRS aren't bad but your runningbacks are. See if you can trade brady and moss for a great WR and good RB. I'd rate your team a 3/10
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    Followed your advice and went RB/WR/WR w/ 1st pick... what you think?

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    How did i do on my draft? any advice or changes?

    12 man league, standard, no ppr
    9th pick

    QB: Peyton Manning, Chad Henne
    WR: Calvin Johnson, Pierre Garcon, Hakeem Nicks, Bernard Berrian, Roy Williams
    RB: Shonn Greene, Jamaal Charles, C.J. Spiller, Felix Jones
    TE: Owen Daniels, Fred Davis
    K: Matt Prater
    Def: Jets
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    Originally Posted by wynngrip View Post
    Followed your advice and went RB/WR/WR w/ 1st pick... what you think?

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=127037381
    Carson Palmer, Cin QB
    Adrian Peterson, Min RB
    Arian Foster, Hou RB
    Brandon Jacobs, NYG RB
    Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR
    Miles Austin, Dal WR
    Owen Daniels, Hou TE
    James Harrison, Pit LB
    D/ST Saints D/ST, NO D/ST
    Marion Barber, Dal RB
    Johnny Knox, Chi WR
    Tim Hightower, Ari RB
    Austin Collie, Ind WR
    Malcom Floyd, SD WR

    This team is sick. I'm a little concerned about Fitzy's injury and Matt Leinharts suckiness but how Miles Austin made it back to you is beyond me. Miles is my #2 ranked WR this year and I do like Foster. I would pick up a backup QB and a backup TE because Owen is an injury risk but i'd say your draft was very successful.
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    Originally Posted by Jayo7k View Post
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    1. (9) Randy Moss WR
    2. (12) Tom Brady QB
    3. (29) Cedric Benson RB
    4. (32) Marques Colston WR
    5. (49) Ronnie Brown RB
    6. (52) Vernon Davis TE
    7. (69) Percy Harvin WR
    8. (72) Pierre Garcon WR
    9. (89) Donald Driver WR
    10. (92) Steve Slaton RB
    11. (109) Brandon Jacobs RB
    12. (112) Nate Kaeding K
    13. (129) Baltimore DEF
    14. (132) Matt Cassel QB
    15. (149) Greg Olsen TE

    Ouch, I'm so opposed to drafting a QB early. Why Moss at 9 over a guy like Miles Austin? You know both are going to post big numbers but Austins upside is so much higher then Moss. He's younger/less of an injury risk. This team does look pretty good but thats because its a 10 team league. I would trade Brady and Moss. I'd try to get Miles Austin and Eli Manning on my team if i was you (not for brady and moss but just work out a trade for them). Your WRS aren't bad but your runningbacks are. See if you can trade brady and moss for a great WR and good RB. I'd rate your team a 3/10
    i disagree, moss is in his final year and wants to prove he is worthy of a new contract. the pats are determined and so is brady.

    miles has had 1 good season, simple as that. besides moss has brady throwing at him and with welker healthy again it adds another threat and makes the pats game multi dimensional.


    so if i traded -
    tom brady
    randy moss

    for-
    eli manning
    miles austin
    joseph addai(above avreage)

    that would make my team better? not sure if srs.

    my wr are great btw in every way. and the depth is even better.

    yes i dont have a big time rb but we both know that ronnie brown can easily be great if he can stay healthy. a chance i took.

    i cant wait to prove you wrong.
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    Originally Posted by UCLAbruin1 View Post
    How did i do on my draft? any advice or changes?

    12 man league, standard, no ppr
    9th pick

    QB: Peyton Manning, Chad Henne
    WR: Calvin Johnson, Pierre Garcon, Hakeem Nicks, Bernard Berrian, Roy Williams
    RB: Shonn Greene, Jamaal Charles, C.J. Spiller, Felix Jones
    TE: Owen Daniels, Fred Davis
    K: Matt Prater
    Def: Jets
    I dont like drafting qbs early because now too many things need to go right with that WR group. I do expect Nicks to have a great season but theres just too many question marks. Your RBs are pretty good because of the depth. Jamaals value in non ppr takes a little hit. Owen Daniels is an injury risk but he has a lot of potential. I'd say you have a solid team. I would try and trade Peyton/Garcon for a qb like Eli and a nice WR like Greg Jennings.
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    Originally Posted by avokshi2000 View Post
    i disagree, moss is in his final year and wants to prove he is worthy of a new contract. the pats are determined and so is brady.

    miles has had 1 good season, simple as that. besides moss has brady throwing at him and with welker healthy again it adds another threat and makes the pats game multi dimensional.


    so if i traded -
    tom brady
    randy moss

    for-
    eli manning
    miles austin
    joseph addai(above avreage)

    that would make my team better? not sure if srs.

    my wr are great btw in every way. and the depth is even better.

    yes i dont have a big time rb but we both know that ronnie brown can easily be great if he can stay healthy. a chance i took.

    i cant wait to prove you wrong.
    lol okay. You asked for my opinion, sorry if you didn't like it. And no to that trade, Addai isn't good (not enough upside) in my opinion. How about Brady/Moss/Ronnie Brown for Eli/Miles/Jamaal Charles or Mendenhall? something like that. Obv u can't really trade for exact players because they are probably scattered on diff teams.
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    Originally Posted by Jayo7k View Post
    Carson Palmer, Cin QB
    Adrian Peterson, Min RB
    Arian Foster, Hou RB
    Brandon Jacobs, NYG RB
    Larry Fitzgerald, Ari WR
    Miles Austin, Dal WR
    Owen Daniels, Hou TE
    James Harrison, Pit LB
    D/ST Saints D/ST, NO D/ST
    Marion Barber, Dal RB
    Johnny Knox, Chi WR
    Tim Hightower, Ari RB
    Austin Collie, Ind WR
    Malcom Floyd, SD WR

    This team is sick. I'm a little concerned about Fitzy's injury and Matt Leinharts suckiness but how Miles Austin made it back to you is beyond me. Miles is my #2 ranked WR this year and I do like Foster. I would pick up a backup QB and a backup TE because Owen is an injury risk but i'd say your draft was very successful.
    Thanks man, did a lot of research the last few days. At first I thought your suggestion going b2b WR was crazy but I think it makes perfect sense after thinking about it a bit... I fig fitzy will still get his share of balls even w/ a not top QB- def should be top 10 anyway, essentially giving me 2 top 10 WR plus players who can easily be top 10. As far as a backup TE and QB, waivers are real thin in our league at these positions, especially for the TE. The obvious roach QB's will be available. Id like to wait til after 1st couple weeks to drop since collie/floyd/knox/barber have some real potential. Even hightower has some as well.
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    Originally Posted by avokshi2000 View Post
    i disagree, moss is in his final year and wants to prove he is worthy of a new contract. the pats are determined and so is brady.

    miles has had 1 good season, simple as that. besides moss has brady throwing at him and with welker healthy again it adds another threat and makes the pats game multi dimensional.


    so if i traded -
    tom brady
    randy moss

    for-
    eli manning
    miles austin
    joseph addai(above avreage)

    that would make my team better? not sure if srs.

    my wr are great btw in every way. and the depth is even better.

    yes i dont have a big time rb but we both know that ronnie brown can easily be great if he can stay healthy. a chance i took.

    i cant wait to prove you wrong.
    moss is slow and old, colston is always injured, percy is suffering from migraines, garcon inconsistent and wayne is the main stud there and driver is old and jennings is the man there... i wouldnt call your wr's great, id call them decent. and tom brady with the 12 pick is suuuuuch a reach.. you could of nabbed deang, sjax or some other stud with that pick and settled for a qb later in the draft. IMO
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