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    Originally Posted by lab80 View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    Although, what I want to do is buy a great base rack that will allow me to build on it as I learn more about it. Versus buying one to start and learn and then selling it to buy a new one once I get familiar with it.

    The Rogue racks seem to fall in this case ategory, as do the Elite and Legends.

    The rogue R-4 should certainly meet all the basic needs and allow future extending through the various accessories they sell.

    Is that incorrect thinking? I really do t want to buy a rack only to want to upgrade a year later. Would this really happen with a rogue R-4?
    If you are serious about lifting and know you will stick with it, then there is nothing wrong with this approach. On the other hand, don't spend a fortune on a rack you might end up selling in a year or two because it's collecting dust.

    Rep Fitness is another company to take a look at. Rogue is generally better, but Rep is getting a lot of good press and wouldn't be a bad way to start.
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    Originally Posted by radrd View Post
    If you are serious about lifting and know you will stick with it, then there is nothing wrong with this approach. On the other hand, don't spend a fortune on a rack you might end up selling in a year or two because it's collecting dust.

    Rep Fitness is another company to take a look at. Rogue is generally better, but Rep is getting a lot of good press and wouldn't be a bad way to start.
    Makes sense, thank you. I’ll check out Rep Fitness also.
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    Originally Posted by lab80 View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    Although, what I want to do is buy a great base rack that will allow me to build on it as I learn more about it. Versus buying one to start and learn and then selling it to buy a new one once I get familiar with it.

    The Rogue racks seem to fall in this case ategory, as do the Elite and Legends.

    The rogue R-4 should certainly meet all the basic needs and allow future extending through the various accessories they sell.

    Is that incorrect thinking? I really do t want to buy a rack only to want to upgrade a year later. Would this really happen with a rogue R-4?
    Well obviously it's your money and just my opinion. Nothing wrong with your plan, it's hard to go wrong with Rogue.

    Lots of variables involved, how long have you been lifting? You may find accessories are not necessary. Not to mention most accessories will fit brand to brand, assuming same size uprights. I have Rogue, Sorinex and custom mech6 and BWTG acc on my Body Solid rack. I assumed I would upgrade at some point, found there was no reason to spend more on a rack that wouldn't do anything better than the one I had.
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    Originally Posted by chadsalt View Post
    Well obviously it's your money and just my opinion. Nothing wrong with your plan, it's hard to go wrong with Rogue.

    Lots of variables involved, how long have you been lifting? You may find accessories are not necessary. Not to mention most accessories will fit brand to brand, assuming same size uprights. I have Rogue, Sorinex and custom mech6 and BWTG acc on my Body Solid rack. I assumed I would upgrade at some point, found there was no reason to spend more on a rack that wouldn't do anything better than the one I had.
    That reminded me of a decent overview of cross-brand accessory compatibility:

    https://www.tworepcave.com/3006/powe...y-master-list/
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    Thanks guys. I'm fairly new to lifting, at least at home. But I do know enough to not be considered a newb, the issue though is I've always used them in the gym, so trying to replicate things at home is a bit complex without knowing what everything is.
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    Originally Posted by lab80 View Post
    Thanks for the reply.

    Although, what I want to do is buy a great base rack that will allow me to build on it as I learn more about it. Versus buying one to start and learn and then selling it to buy a new one once I get familiar with it.

    The Rogue racks seem to fall in this case ategory, as do the Elite and Legends.

    The rogue R-4 should certainly meet all the basic needs and allow future extending through the various accessories they sell.

    Is that incorrect thinking? I really do t want to buy a rack only to want to upgrade a year later. Would this really happen with a rogue R-4?
    It would be easy if we could all start out knowing exactly where we will end up. Then we could buy exactly what we need without having to go through any learning curve. But it does not work that way.

    I still use the first rack I bought - a used commercial York. It does everything I need. And I could find or make all the accessories I decided that I wanted/needed. Racks are pretty easy to get along with, unless you want to have everything matching and color coordinated, etc. You need to decide what is important to you now and down the road.

    As for a pulley system, you may well decide that the rack mounted one does not meet your needs. I started out with a home-made, rack mounted pulley system, graduated to a home-gym for its pulldown, moved to a Body Solid pull-down/low row machine, and finally ended up with a gym quality pulldown/mid row machine with a weight stack. What I thought was a good choice at the time I learned was not, several times over.

    Don't stress about buying the perfect rack. Don't buy cheap, 'cuz you will likely grow tired of its inadequacies over time. But any of the mid to high quality racks allow a foundation for growth into the rack that will meet your functional needs.
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    Originally Posted by lab80 View Post
    Thanks guys. I'm fairly new to lifting, at least at home. But I do know enough to not be considered a newb, the issue though is I've always used them in the gym, so trying to replicate things at home is a bit complex without knowing what everything is.
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    The rogue R-4 should certainly meet all the basic needs and allow future extending through the various accessories they sell.
    if you're new, don't worry about accessories.
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    Thanks for the pic and specs, Cadz. At only 599 shipped I really think anyone considering the Powertec should really look at the Bodycraft as well. 100 dollars more and you are getting a rack with a straight chin up bar and easily adjusted spotters and hooks protected by rubber to prevent chipping and scratching. It seems like they are pretty equal otherwise, but I like the Bodycraft, and would probably choose that over the Ptec.
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    Originally Posted by Melendez1223 View Post
    Thanks for the pic and specs, Cadz. At only 599 shipped I really think anyone considering the Powertec should really look at the Bodycraft as well. 100 dollars more and you are getting a rack with a straight chin up bar and easily adjusted spotters and hooks protected by rubber to prevent chipping and scratching. It seems like they are pretty equal otherwise, but I like the Bodycraft, and would probably choose that over the Ptec.
    I have a Parabody with pop pins like the Bodycraft and they are very convenient. But I often wonder if they are really strong enough to stop a catastrophic failure. especially now that my son has started lifting.

    I like the overall design of the Powertec but think the accessories are overpriced.
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    Originally Posted by bisonp View Post
    I have a Parabody with pop pins like the Bodycraft and they are very convenient. But I often wonder if they are really strong enough to stop a catastrophic failure. especially now that my son has started lifting.

    I like the overall design of the Powertec but think the accessories are overpriced.
    Nick Best has a Parabody in his garage gym. He recently had a video of him performing 1,205lbs rack pulls. Granted, the bar only fell a few inches but the rack didn't budge.

    Not sure how to embed from FB
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    The pop-pin is pretty much the same as the stud on a drop in rack - just retractable.
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    Originally Posted by bisonp View Post
    I have a Parabody with pop pins like the Bodycraft and they are very convenient. But I often wonder if they are really strong enough to stop a catastrophic failure. especially now that my son has started lifting.

    I like the overall design of the Powertec but think the accessories are overpriced.
    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Nick Best has a Parabody in his garage gym. He recently had a video of him performing 1,205lbs rack pulls. Granted, the bar only fell a few inches but the rack didn't budge.

    Not sure how to embed from FB
    https://www.facebook.com/NickBestPro...3372164264175/

    The pop-pin is pretty much the same as the stud on a drop in rack - just retractable.
    I had a Parabody rack and was completely happy with it. The shear strength on the pop pins is higher than anyone is going to drop on it. Just make sure all the pins are engaged.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Nick Best has a Parabody in his garage gym. He recently had a video of him performing 1,205lbs rack pulls. Granted, the bar only fell a few inches but the rack didn't budge.

    Not sure how to embed from FB
    https://www.facebook.com/NickBestPro...3372164264175/

    The pop-pin is pretty much the same as the stud on a drop in rack - just retractable.
    My concern isn't necessarily the pins themselves. It's that they don't go in very far. I would think it would be fairly easy for things to flex enough to fail.

    Nice to see that video though. I don't think I'd like any other rack as well.
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    Originally Posted by bisonp View Post
    My concern isn't necessarily the pins themselves. It's that they don't go in very far. I would think it would be fairly easy for things to flex enough to fail.

    Nice to see that video though. I don't think I'd like any other rack as well.
    Drop-ins and even some of the other safety designs use a stud roughly the same length - it's nothing to worry about
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Drop-ins and even some of the other safety designs use a stud roughly the same length - it's nothing to worry about
    I have a drop in style rack and the stud only goes about 1/2" or so past the upright.
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    Regarding figuring out what you want and need...it's taken me two years to 'figure out' what I needed and wanted in a rack and home gym.

    Started cheap, with a rack that had a lat pulldown. Scrapped the pulldown after a while, flipped the rack so I could set the bench in it further, added 2x2 T-2 accessories and so on.

    Changed my platform setup multiple times, went though a variety of adjustable dumbbells and iron plates.

    Now I have an RML-3, leg press and separate lat machine (plate load), PB Rexan db's, Rep bench and bar nd it's all I'll need. Fortunately between buying cheap and flipping items I was able to get further than trying new and reselling.

    So yeah, it'd be nice to know what you need and just BAM buy that. But part of the fun is buying new or almost new used equipment and trying it out.
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    Thanks for your message. We also have a similar rack as this. We manufactured these kinds of rigs and racks for many years.
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    Made the investment for the Rogue RM-4 back when they had 7 gauge posts and never looked back. Added pieces over time, but don't ever plan to change my rack. Also, I went with bumpers instead of iron plates and would recommend it as well. Let noise and potential for injury. Good luck and happy hunting.
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    Titan Fitness. Whats the word on that in here? Anyone using one their racks? I am considering their x3 series Bolt down Power Rack. Pretty cheap considering some of the others out there. I would like to go Rogue all the way but it adds up really quick.

    Here is a link to the Titan rack I am considering. I don't care about the pull up bar on it as I have a stand alone pull up bar.

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    If I were buying a rack and trying to save some money, I'd look at Rep Fitness over Titan, but there are fans of both companies.
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    If I were buying a rack and trying to save some money, I'd look at Rep Fitness over Titan, but there are fans of both companies.
    Thank you for the suggestion. They seem to be about on par with Titan with more options for replacement parts. Repped ya.
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    Originally Posted by shaneinga View Post
    Thank you for the suggestion. They seem to be about on par with Titan with more options for replacement parts. Repped ya.
    From what I've heard and seen, Rep has better QC than Titan
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    Originally Posted by shaneinga View Post
    Thank you for the suggestion. They seem to be about on par with Titan with more options for replacement parts. Repped ya.
    Rep is building a very good reputation, at present a lot of their racks are hard to beat within their price bracket..
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    Originally Posted by cwcmac View Post
    From what I've heard and seen, Rep has better QC than Titan
    To someone shopping between the Titan and REP, I would probably explain the difference like this: Titan will be the best value, but in the future you will want higher quality and will take a hit on selling. REP might cost you a few more bucks initially, but there is a MUCH better chance that you'll never take a loss looking to upgrade your equipment. Although I'm sure that largely depends on the piece too, Titan appears to have closed the QC gap on a few items lately.
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    Originally Posted by urbanlifter View Post
    To someone shopping between the Titan and REP, I would probably explain the difference like this: Titan will be the best value, but in the future you will want higher quality and will take a hit on selling. REP might cost you a few more bucks initially, but there is a MUCH better chance that you'll never take a loss looking to upgrade your equipment. Although I'm sure that largely depends on the piece too, Titan appears to have closed the QC gap on a few items lately.
    Titan is cheaper, but I think REP is actually the better value (more for your money). To be fair, I only own a dozen Titan weight posts and a landmine, but I really have nothing good to say about either other than price.
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    Thank you for the replies fellas. I bought a titan flat bench and I plan to put it together this weekend.

    I am just getting started on my home gym. I still have a gym membership but I want a home gym to teach my son to lift as he comes of age.

    I have a couple pieces including a rogue echo bike.

    I figured a power rack would be kind of hard to fawk up, however Alan Thrall thrashed titan on their racks.

    Idk, I might just go Rogue, it’s only a couple hundred dollars more.
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    Originally Posted by Duplicitous View Post
    Titan is cheaper, but I think REP is actually the better value (more for your money). To be fair, I only own a dozen Titan weight posts and a landmine, but I really have nothing good to say about either other than price.
    By now, people who buy Titan Fitness equipment should already know the score. You're getting an INSANE cheap piece of equipment because the QC, paint, welds, surfaces might come with blemishes or may not be 100% squared up. Same thing with the people who buy dirt cheap horse stall mats for flooring, the alternative is 2-3x the price so people accept uneven stall mats that smell like they just smoked a pack of lucky stripes to save some money. They ain't pretty, but they do the same job as any other 3/4" thick rubber mat.

    REP Fitness makes some awesome equipment no doubt, but Titan has quite a few pieces that are possibly the best value on the market. Titan's lat pulldown w/stack, belt squat, GHD, reverse hyper, SSB, Rickshaw, and other strongman options are impressive these days. But I understand some people have strong feelings against the brand based on their own personal experiences. But at the end of the day, I'm guessing your pegs are holding weight and the landmine isn't holding you back.
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    Originally Posted by shaneinga View Post
    Thank you for the replies fellas. I bought a titan flat bench and I plan to put it together this weekend.

    I am just getting started on my home gym. I still have a gym membership but I want a home gym to teach my son to lift as he comes of age.

    I have a couple pieces including a rogue echo bike.

    I figured a power rack would be kind of hard to fawk up, however Alan Thrall thrashed titan on their racks.

    Idk, I might just go Rogue, it’s only a couple hundred dollars more.
    I suggest that when you are shopping racks, if you are planning to order one, you run the estimated shipping costs as part of the equation--it's shocking how much difference that can make on something big & heavy & hard to ship such as a rack.
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    Originally Posted by shaneinga View Post
    Thank you for the replies fellas. I bought a titan flat bench and I plan to put it together this weekend.

    I am just getting started on my home gym. I still have a gym membership but I want a home gym to teach my son to lift as he comes of age.

    I have a couple pieces including a rogue echo bike.

    I figured a power rack would be kind of hard to fawk up, however Alan Thrall thrashed titan on their racks.

    Idk, I might just go Rogue, it’s only a couple hundred dollars more.
    I believe Georgie has a solid used market (depending where). Have you chcked CL or FB marketplace? If you're teaching your son, you'll end up teaching his friends.
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    Originally Posted by cwcmac View Post
    I believe Georgie has a solid used market (depending where). Have you chcked CL or FB marketplace? If you're teaching your son, you'll end up teaching his friends.
    Try gumtreee. We bought a great home gym at a bargain price. Else deals sites sometimes have them
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