What's Raw Elite

[dtaps24]

at 198 and 220 respectively? Would only consider doing a meet if I feel certain to hit Elite so I'm wondering.

[nitroboie]

Some feds have different values for elite... USAPL/IPF defines elite for 181 at 745kg and 785kg for 220.. good luck hitting elite in your first meet...

[Squinky]

Some feds have different values for elite... USAPL/IPF defines elite for 181 at 745kg and 785kg for 220.. good luck hitting elite in your first meet...

You can really say ELITE...

[skinnycalves]

http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/node/1793

[TrettinR]

at 198 and 220 respectively? Would only consider doing a meet if I feel certain to hit Elite so I'm wondering.

Raw elite at 220 for 100% Raw and a couple other feds for the 220s is 1551

[dtaps24]

I appreciate it, those are some big numbers, at 5'10-5'11 I don't know that I can realistically do 198 without an insane cut, but I am going to take the next year and change to really concentrate on upping my total and see where it takes me, would also want to attend at least 2-3 meets before I would ever compete so I can try to duplicate the standards in gym lifts to the extent possible.

[TrettinR]

I appreciate it, those are some big numbers, at 5'10-5'11 I don't know that I can realistically do 198 without an insane cut, but I am going to take the next year and change to really concentrate on upping my total and see where it takes me, would also want to attend at least 2-3 meets before I would ever compete so I can try to duplicate the standards in gym lifts to the extent possible.

It's a great idea to attend a meet before lifting in one so you can see what the lifters are doing, what the judges are doing, the commands, the atmosphere, etc.

But I would recommend doing a meet as soon as you can because you'll learn more by participating than you will by watching. Also it will only motivate you more to really push your numbers up.

[nitroboie]

^ This.

Watching meets can be boring. It's fine the first go around, but by the 2nd one, you'll be wishing you were up there instead. If everyone waited until they were able to total elite, then most meets would be empty.

[Arlecchino]

^ This.

Watching meets can be boring. It's fine the first go around, but by the 2nd one, you'll be wishing you were up there instead. If everyone waited until they were able to total elite, then most meets would be empty.

This.

Get the competition experience.

[dannyautrey]

This.

Get the competition experience.

This! Experience is key. There's no point in waiting. No one will be like "Wow! This guy shouldn't be here if he's not totalling elite."

[EinMassengrab.]

you guys mad that i'm waiting til i can hit 198 elite til i compete?

I just cant afford to do any other meets, or else i would

[TrettinR]

you guys mad that i'm waiting til i can hit 198 elite til i compete?

I just cant afford to do any other meets, or else i would

Not at all, everyone knows the raw elite numbers are way too low anyway

[Big Sexy J]

you guys mad that i'm waiting til i can hit 198 elite til i compete?

I just cant afford to do any other meets, or else i would

Which 198 elite total are you talking about? There is a million of them.

[EinMassengrab.]

Which 198 elite total are you talking about? There is a million of them.

Haven't decided, i have a while to decide... lol. My cousin lifts in the IPF and will want me to also, so probably 745kg

[BEhave]

Raw elite at 220 for 100% Raw and a couple other feds for the 220s is 1551

Thats a lot more achievable. WTF at the ipf raw totals for elite at 220. a 400 bench, 600 squat and 700 deadlift at 220 wouldn't get you elite status. Thats some bull****

to you guys talking about competing now. A powerlifter at the gym I go to told me that there is no point in competing when you are still weak. He said a mistake some people make is competing too soon

[koyongi]

Not at all, everyone knows the raw elite numbers are way too low anyway

Agreed.

[koyongi]

to you guys talking about competing now. A powerlifter at the gym I go to told me that there is no point in competing when you are still weak. He said a mistake some people make is competing too soon

Whoever told you that is an idiot. Do you tell little kids not to play baseball until they can hit a 90mph fastball? No. You put them in little league and they LEARN from playing at a lower level (not just practicing). Yeah, don't enter the Pro-Am when your total is under 1000, but you're only going to learn and improve from competing in a smaller meet, even if you're that guy opening with the bar. With very few exceptions, the powerlifting scene is very supportive and helpful, and you're going to get as much (if not more) support at your first meet as someone who easily totals elite.

[BEhave]

Whoever told you that is an idiot. Do you tell little kids not to play baseball until they can hit a 90mph fastball? No. You put them in little league and they LEARN from playing at a lower level (not just practicing). Yeah, don't enter the Pro-Am when your total is under 1000, but you're only going to learn and improve from competing in a smaller meet, even if you're that guy opening with the bar. With very few exceptions, the powerlifting scene is very supportive and helpful, and you're going to get as much (if not more) support at your first meet as someone who easily totals elite.

I was kind of confused when he told me that because its different from what many say here. He also said its really nerve wrecking for guys when lifting in a comp, especially something like the bench when you have to wait for all those differnt commands with 3 judges watching you.

[Retardo-pex]

Thats a lot more achievable. WTF at the ipf raw totals for elite at 220. a 400 bench, 600 squat and 700 deadlift at 220 wouldn't get you elite status. Thats some bull****

to you guys talking about competing now. A powerlifter at the gym I go to told me that there is no point in competing when you are still weak. He said a mistake some people make is competing too soon

With that mentality no one would ever be good at anything. Don't bother playing baseball/basketball/football/soccer when you are young and underdeveloped, wait and start in high school so by the time you graduate you have the basic set of skills to know how to play the games. In fact don't bother competing in powerlifting/strongman/bodybuilding/olifting until you have 26 years of pharmaceutical enhancements under your belt, and even then only if there is no one else in the world who is anywhere near you.

[koyongi]

I was kind of confused when he told me that because its different from what many say here. He also said its really nerve wrecking for guys when lifting in a comp, especially something like the bench when you have to wait for all those differnt commands with 3 judges watching you.

It IS a totally different atmosphere than the gym, which is why you want to get a couple easy meets under your belt, and get used to the format. It will let you know what you need to work on, so you can really focus what you're doing at the gym.

[ShutUpAndSquat]

Everyone has to start somewhere. Your strength will only make even more positive progress after doing your first meet. Not only will you pick up a few things on technique and such, but you'll be motivated as hell to do a real training cycle for your second meet.

[tkddans]

What is elite but the top competitors in a sport? Here are the totals (in pounds) of each weight class of the USAPL 2010 Raw Nationals, Men's Open division:

132 - 862
148 - 1,243
165 - 1,474
181 - 1,452
198 - 1,435.5
220 - 1,699.5
242 - 1,595
275 - 1,820.5
Shw - 1,936

I can't post a link yet haha, I'm new to the forums :/
But check out the 2010 USAPL Raw National Results if you want to see the individual lifts and all the lifters.

The truth is, if "elite" is simply the top people who show up to a national level competition, of people coming in from all over the US mind you, then I'd say the numbers used in Beyond the Brawn and on that strength standard website are accurate. The numbers are not those that would win (for example, the "elite" 181 would total would be 1,370 whereas the first place lifter got 1,452). The numbers do indicate that if a lifter are able to lift "elite" numbers, then that lifter has the right to compete on the national level, maybe even for the top 3 or 5.