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    lolz
    When he talks about telling China they're predatory lenders and we need a loan mod i was seriously laughing, but then i work in real estate
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    Rofl, he's the king of economic metaphors.
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    Originally Posted by bigfor15 View Post
    Rofl, he's the king of economic metaphors.
    His dad is the same way. He wrote a whole comic book about how free markets work just to help people understand it. I heard they're working together on a newer version.
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    too bad he's a terrible investor.

    when's the dollar going to crash again?


    i will acknowledge he predicted a long recession. he got part of it correct.
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    Originally Posted by skinny buckeye View Post
    too bad he's a terrible investor.

    when's the dollar going to crash again?


    i will acknowledge he predicted a long recession. he got part of it correct.
    You've acknowledged yourself that the dollar would have tanked if not for that massive bailout. And you've also acknowledged that the government has handled that bailout in exactly the worst manor possible, doing nothing but creating a bigger problem for us later on.

    Assuming there isn't some kind of philosophical revolution in Washington and this continues, where do you think the dollar is headed?
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    You've often said all the government needs to do is start raising interest rates and things will work themselves out.

    Bernanke JUST said he will keep interest rates as near 0 as possible for years.

    Face it, Schiff is right. He may not be accurate in terms of the timeframe involved and he gets some of the details wrong, which is bad for an investor, but in terms of economics he is dead on.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    His dad is the same way. He wrote a whole comic book about how free markets work just to help people understand it. I heard they're working together on a newer version.
    His dad is a convicted felon doing hard time for scamming the government with his lunatic anti-tax advice and books.

    Pete Schiff is an anti-government nut just like his old man. He polishes ultra-rightwing gems- the fed is always wrong, governmental regulation of the market is always wrong, buy gold....

    Here's a real economist putting this hack in his place:

    James Galbraith: The difference between the United States and Greece is that Greece is a member of the EURO. Greece has to fund itself in a currency which it cannot not control. The United States is in full control of it’s own currency.

    Peter Schiff: And that’s the problem.

    James Galbraith: We can have some problems, I’m not saying that we’ve solved all economic problems. I’m saying that financing the Government of the United States is not one of the problems that we face.

    Peter Schiff: Sure it is. See, the fact that Greece cannot print money is a good thing. The fact that we can print money to repudiate our debts with inflation. That’s not a good thing. Anybody who’s holding US government bonds, basically what you’re saying is "it’s ok, the Government’s gonna print a bunch of money, you’re gonna get paid".

    James Galbraith: As I said before, if the markets were seriously worried about the prospect of inflation, they would not have a 4.5% rate on long term bonds.

    Peter Schiff: They’re wrong.

    James Galbraith: If the markets are wrong then you shouldn’t be paying attention to them at all.
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    Originally Posted by DukeZorba View Post
    People I don't agree with are crazy!
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    You realize that he actually had substance to his post, whilst your "rebuttal" has absolutely none, right? And Irwin Schiff is a ****ing nutjob, for the record.
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    Originally Posted by Blindead View Post
    You realize that he actually had substance to his post, whilst your "rebuttal" has absolutely none, right? And Irwin Schiff is a ****ing nutjob, for the record.
    All I saw was a lot of ad homs and a favorable clip from a conversation between Gilbraith and Schiff. Schiff has made that 'real economist' look like an idiot over and over. If I were to reply in kind, I'd find some out of context exchange between the two of them that makes Gilbraith looks bad. Would you still consider that to be of substance?

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    He really showed Schiff! The government doesn't have to worry about debt because the federal reserve can just print its own money to cover whatever debt we wrack up!

    What could go wrong?

    Really, calling someone crazy because they don't want an economy modeled after Zimbabwe is just silly. Substantively silly, I guess YOU would say.
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    No way Schiff wins the senate seat here in CT. I think most people have no idea who the hell he is. I have seen 0 commercials for him and have seen maybe 1 sign up. Linda McMahon has commercials running every 30 minutes I feel like.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    All I saw was a lot of ad homs and a favorable clip from a conversation between Gilbraith and Schiff. Schiff has made that 'real economist' look like an idiot over and over. If I were to reply in kind, I'd find some out of context exchange between the two of them that makes Gilbraith looks bad. Would you still consider that to be of substance?

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    He really showed Schiff! The government doesn't have to worry about debt because the federal reserve can just print its own money to cover whatever debt we wrack up!

    What could go wrong?

    Really, calling someone crazy because they don't want an economy modeled after Zimbabwe is just silly. Substantively silly, I guess YOU would say.
    The idea that anyone could take that used car salesman Gilbraith seriously is both funny and sad.

    The Gilbraith method?

    Print print print, and if that doesn't work, print some more lol

    Guy is an airhead that only airheads can take seriously
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    Originally Posted by rockyl686 View Post
    The idea that anyone could take that used car salesman Gilbraith seriously is both funny and sad.

    The Gilbraith method?

    Print print print, and if that doesn't work, print some more lol

    Guy is an airhead that only airheads can take seriously
    The truth is, the only difference between Greece and the U.S. is bretton woods. If the world wasn't forced to fund our stupidity whether they like it or not, we would have been in the same situation as Greece many years ago.

    This debt policy is so ****ed up that even with bretton woods as an advantage, we're still headed there.
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    No way Schiff wins the senate seat here in CT. I think most people have no idea who the hell he is. I have seen 0 commercials for him and have seen maybe 1 sign up. Linda McMahon has commercials running every 30 minutes I feel like.
    Sad but true. There was this guy at the supermarket with a petition to get him on the ballot. The woman I was talking to in the parking lot refused to sign it because she "doesn't even know who he is". Unfortunately politics is all about marketing, just like in business.
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    I'm mad.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    The truth is, the only difference between Greece and the U.S. is bretton woods. If the world wasn't forced to fund our stupidity whether they like it or not, we would have been in the same situation as Greece many years ago.

    This debt policy is so ****ed up that even with bretton woods as an advantage, we're still headed there.
    how is the world "forced" to fund US current account deficits? last time I checked we have a floating exchange rate and floating interest rates.
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    Originally Posted by DukeZorba View Post
    His dad is a convicted felon doing hard time for scamming the government with his lunatic anti-tax advice and books.

    Pete Schiff is an anti-government nut just like his old man. He polishes ultra-rightwing gems- the fed is always wrong, governmental regulation of the market is always wrong, buy gold....

    Here's a real economist putting this hack in his place:

    James Galbraith: The difference between the United States and Greece is that Greece is a member of the EURO. Greece has to fund itself in a currency which it cannot not control. The United States is in full control of it’s own currency.

    Peter Schiff: And that’s the problem.

    James Galbraith: We can have some problems, I’m not saying that we’ve solved all economic problems. I’m saying that financing the Government of the United States is not one of the problems that we face.

    Peter Schiff: Sure it is. See, the fact that Greece cannot print money is a good thing. The fact that we can print money to repudiate our debts with inflation. That’s not a good thing. Anybody who’s holding US government bonds, basically what you’re saying is "it’s ok, the Government’s gonna print a bunch of money, you’re gonna get paid".

    James Galbraith: As I said before, if the markets were seriously worried about the prospect of inflation, they would not have a 4.5% rate on long term bonds.

    Peter Schiff: They’re wrong.

    James Galbraith: If the markets are wrong then you shouldn’t be paying attention to them at all.
    I would say Schiff won that one.

    however in the short term deflation appears to be winning.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    You've often said all the government needs to do is start raising interest rates and things will work themselves out.

    Bernanke JUST said he will keep interest rates as near 0 as possible for years.

    Face it, Schiff is right. He may not be accurate in terms of the timeframe involved and he gets some of the details wrong, which is bad for an investor, but in terms of economics he is dead on.
    he has the overall 30 year outlook right. but then again that doesn't help anyone financially.

    sure if we accumulate debt for 30 years at the same pace we'll be game over as a country.

    but its not realistic. its no differnt than the guy who looked at the charts of the dow and predicted Dow 30,000 back in 2000.


    The reason i don't like schiff is he's a salesman. he's selling his firm and he's all about making outlandish predictions. if he's half right he can say he was right. but in the meantime his investors got killed because he was only half right. what does he care? he takes his cut either way.

    his dollar predictions irk me as well. I think they are just meant to make noise. they are really unrealistic.


    if you have a hard on for schiff thats fine, but i'm still going to call bull****.
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    Originally Posted by skinny buckeye View Post
    how is the world "forced" to fund US current account deficits? last time I checked we have a floating exchange rate and floating interest rates.
    We've had floating rates since the 70's. That doesn't change the fact that the dollar is the world's reserve currency. That gives us a huge advantage in getting what we want from the rest of the world, no matter how retarded we get.
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    Originally Posted by skinny buckeye View Post
    The reason i don't like schiff is he's a salesman. he's selling his firm and he's all about making outlandish predictions. if he's half right he can say he was right. but in the meantime his investors got killed because he was only half right. what does he care? he takes his cut either way.

    his dollar predictions irk me as well. I think they are just meant to make noise. they are really unrealistic.


    if you have a hard on for schiff thats fine, but i'm still going to call bull****.
    That is why I don't listen to his investment advice. I don't have a hard on for Schiff, but when he's right, he's right.

    Doesn't mean I'd invest in euro pac.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    We've had floating rates since the 70's. That doesn't change the fact that the dollar is the world's reserve currency. That gives us a huge advantage in getting what we want from the rest of the world, no matter how retarded we get.
    but we're the "reserve" currency for a reason. its not like we hold a gun to anyone's head and say "we won't buy your stuff anymore if you don't buy our bonds"..


    well except for China perhaps. I have no doubt that there is quid pro quo with them. Clinton gave them PNTR and W signed them into WTO. I can imagine we remind them of that favor on a regular basis, at least Greenspan probably did when he told them what a great deal GSE debt was. LOL

    but for reserve currency status, overall its a reality that there simply is no alternative. we're the largest economy, trading partner. Also of the G3 we have the best fundamental economic prospects, despite deficits and housing bubbles.

    For schiff's thesis, you have to have an alternative to the USD. yet there isn't one. where would global liquid savings go? chinese stock market? where the gov't makes of the #'s , 40% of bank loans are NPL, the gov't siezes private assets whenever they feel like it, and its well known they've created a real estate bubble? NO WAY.

    Japan? they're a basket case

    Euro? also a basket case held up by one economy, Germany otherwise they'd have a continental recession for years.


    so whats the alternative? Gold? please... its not a liquid market relative to currencies.


    I don't see how we force anyone to invest in USD denominated assets. capital will flow to where the returns are or the safety is. China can sell treasuries anytime they want. they choose not to. and for good reason IMO.

    maybe i've missed some key part of the schiff dollar thesis, but i don't think so.
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    Originally Posted by skinny buckeye View Post
    but we're the "reserve" currency for a reason. its not like we hold a gun to anyone's head and say "we won't buy your stuff anymore if you don't buy our bonds"..
    No but its a huge incentive for other countries to keep investing in the dollar

    well except for China perhaps. I have no doubt that there is quid pro quo with them. Clinton gave them PNTR and W signed them into WTO. I can imagine we remind them of that favor on a regular basis, at least Greenspan probably did when he told them what a great deal GSE debt was. LOL

    Originally Posted by skinny buckeye View Post
    but for reserve currency status, overall its a reality that there simply is no alternative. we're the largest economy, trading partner. Also of the G3 we have the best fundamental economic prospects, despite deficits and housing bubbles.
    The alternative would be not to use fiat as a reserve against fiat in the first place.

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    Originally Posted by skinny buckeye View Post
    or schiff's thesis, you have to have an alternative to the USD. yet there isn't one. where would global liquid savings go? chinese stock market? where the gov't makes of the #'s , 40% of bank loans are NPL, the gov't siezes private assets whenever they feel like it, and its well known they've created a real estate bubble? NO WAY.

    Japan? they're a basket case

    Euro? also a basket case held up by one economy, Germany otherwise they'd have a continental recession for years.


    so whats the alternative? Gold? please... its not a liquid market relative to currencies.


    I don't see how we force anyone to invest in USD denominated assets. capital will flow to where the returns are or the safety is. China can sell treasuries anytime they want. they choose not to. and for good reason IMO.

    maybe i've missed some key part of the schiff dollar thesis, but i don't think so.
    Maybe I don't listen to Schiff often enough, because believe it or not I dont follow him very closely, but he always seems to talk in a general sense. That is why you don't hear him put a specific time frame on things unless specifically asked to. I've heard him say that to investors that are concerned that their investments are losing value....just wait, its going to happen sooner or later, and the typical spiel about how you haven't really lost any money until you actually sell.

    Anyway what I like about him most is his sarcasm.
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    Originally Posted by Stizzel View Post
    All I saw was a lot of ad homs and a favorable clip from a conversation between Gilbraith and Schiff. Schiff has made that 'real economist' look like an idiot over and over. If I were to reply in kind, I'd find some out of context exchange ....?

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    What exactly is 'out of context' about the transcribed exchange?

    Nice little meaningless pretexts like 'out of context' might make you feel better about your position in supporting a loon like Schiff, but it's just disingenous blather.

    Sort of like you authoring my quotes and then wryly commenting on them.

    You're quite a piece of work.
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