im 6ft and around 200lbs i want to build mass but i am also wanting to lose fat.
Should i concentrate on building mass then 'cut'? or try and lose weight then lift to build mass? or both?(is that possible) im a complete newby
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07-07-2010, 04:46 PM #1
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07-07-2010, 05:03 PM #4
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My advice would be to post some pics so we can see where you are at and what kind of build you have then we can give some better advice. Best of luck!
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07-07-2010, 05:08 PM #5
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Lifting weights while on a caloric deficit will help you maintain whatever muscle you have already while losing weight. Light weights would be ideal for this type of program. In order to gain muscle mass not only do you have to intake alot of protein, fat and carbs your caloric intake will be probably double maybe even triple your caloric deficit for losing weight. Its best to diet, exercise (cardio plus weight training) and then began your body transformation (muscle mass) after your desired weight is lost.
Remember the more muscle mass you have the higher your metabolism. Thats why just about every single guy on here can eat whatever they want without gaining a single pound.
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07-07-2010, 06:22 PM #7
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Well, I would say lift as heavy as you can. But, since you are new it really won't be that heavy but you'll progress quickly. I've had better luck losing bodyfat by lifting than by cardio alone. In fact my best results were from lifting on a beginner 3 day program and doing cardio right after. I couldn't do that at first but after about 3 weeks I could. So if the workout was 40 minutes I did 20 of cardio. If the workout was 51 then I did 9 cardio. In other words I kept my heartrate up for an hour.
I have only lost a few pounds but if i had before an after pics you would see why. I lost 4% bf in about 2 months and I can tell. So can others. Of course, unlike you, I have another 30% to go but I found this to work best for me instead of 3 days lifting and 3 days cardio with 1 day off.
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07-07-2010, 06:27 PM #8
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You will drop weight just by lifting, period. If you hit the weights hard enough and you workout correctly you will drop weight. If you are looking to get big then the best bet is to try and convert what you have into muscle, its is 10x easier to convert fat to muscle than to gain lean muscle mass. Ive been hard at it about 5 months now and ive lost 30 lbs total and about 10 inces off my waist, if i were to calculate it Ive prolly lost around 60 lbs of fat and I just started doing strict cardio this month.
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07-09-2010, 08:10 PM #9
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I was wondering what i should do calorie wise? without putting lifting into the equation if i eat less than 2300 calories i will lose weight - so should i eat at a deficit? should i eat 2300 cals a day or eat even more? and is it 1lb of protein for every 1lb i weigh?
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07-10-2010, 01:15 AM #10
Yes. There is rarely a reason not to lift weights, for anyone. It is good for appearance, health, strength, mobility, injury resistance, joint strength, etc. Just keep on lifting while you're losing weight and don't worry about it not making sense to you.
1) Wrong. Light weights are really not very useful at all, in any situation. They just don't provide enough of a stimulus. Lifting heavy is important while losing weight, in order to keep strength and provide a stimulus that will make the body adapt by holding on to or adding muscle. If you're a fat rank novice, you will get bigger and better looking muscles while losing weight at the same time. Eventually as you become a more advanced trainee, this won't happen, but it will still be important to lift heavy ass weights while cutting.
2) It's best just to lift heavy ass weights at all times.
3) The increase in metabolic rate due to adding muscle is insignificant. No one should worry about this issue. Get bigger muscles to look better and be stronger. And the last sentence is just utter retardation.
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IMO, 6' and 200lbs isn't a bad weight. You could maintain your weight, but train solidly for a couple years, and totally change your physique. Also, the process of adding muscle over time will have you burning more calories over time. Not just from the workouts you do, but from the extra muscle you'll be carrying down the road. Someething to think about.
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